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Originally posted by LeMagnifique
just one thing don't get the french involved!
Peace LeMagnifique
Originally posted by hsia
you should say Taiwanese don't want a war
They don't want a war, they dont want to be chinese: staus quo
What are you talking about? Please speak for yourself if you are self-hating. You are an extremist and definately, the way you think is against public opinion in Taiwan.
Originally posted by lucasman
Lastly, even if China did go to war to attempt to "invade" Taiwan, the US would throw them right back into the sea. The fact is, the US has the technological might to overcome any Chinese invasion, barring the use of nucelar weapson.
Originally posted by lucasman
The conflict between the US and China over Taiwan is hugely overexaggerated. China would never run the risk of losing it's biggest trade partner.
Secondly, althought Taiwan may be a large issue, other issues such as our constant criticizing of thier human rights policies is going to anger them more.
Lastly, even if China did go to war to attempt to "invade" Taiwan, the US would throw them right back into the sea. The fact is, the US has the technological might to overcome any Chinese invasion, barring the use of nucelar weapson.
posted by UM_Gazz: “ . . a forgotten threat again shows its face. China is very unhappy about the current issues between itself, the U.S.A. and Tiawan. A former Chinese President told [Sec of St] Condoleezza Rice just how serious this situation is . . Tiawan sovereignty will never be tolerated . . China is unhappy about U.S. plans to sell advanced weapons to Taiwan . . Jiang told Rice that Tiawan remains the "most vital and most sensitive issue in Sino-U.S. relations . . " Tiawan sovereignty will never be tolerated," he said . . "and if foreign forces step in, we will never sit by and watch . . " The challenges for the next President of the United States of America are growing . . and none can be bigger at the moment than a potential conflict with China. [Edited by Don W]
Originally posted by lucasman
The thing is, and this is in response to both posts, first China has to successfully land enough troops to hold Taiwan. That in itself could be problemlatic because first the US isn't just gonna sit by andnot do anything if we see that China is preparing to invade, we will help Taiwan by putting trips in Taiwan. Secondly, as was stated before, invasions are much harder for the invaders than the defenders, especially if China is as was stated 10 years behind the United States in technology. And, I mean come on, if you have US forces stationed in Taiwan, and China doesn't have the ability to mass transport people constantly, the chance of the US being able to fend off these attacks is high.
posted by google_abcd: “Obviously you forget one thing: Before US carrier battle groups arrive at Taiwan, they have been destroyed by China's submarines and short/long range missiles. Taiwan is so close to the China mainland even the new invented long distance cannon can cover the whole Taiwan area.”[Edited by Don W]
posted by google_abcd: “Wow, where was your "technology" in North Korea war? China is still 10 years behind the U.S. in military, but don't forget the war will happen in an area only 30-60 miles off the Chinese mainland. That means China doesn't need to use the nuclear weapons at all.
[Edited by Don W]
posted by lucasman: “The conflict between the US and China over Taiwan is hugely over exaggerated. 1) China would never run the risk of losing it's biggest trade partner. 2) although Taiwan may be a large issue, other issues such as our constant criticizing of their human rights policies is going to anger them more. 3) if China did go to war to "invade" Taiwan, the US would throw them right back into the sea. Invasions are much harder for the invaders than the defenders. [Reflect on Inchon, October, 1950.] especially if China is ‘10 years behind’ the United States in technology. [MORE LIKE 25 YEARS BEHIND] The fact is, the US has the technological might to overcome any Chinese invasion, barring the use of nuclear weapons. [Edited by Don W, comments in brackets.]
Originally posted by google_abcd
Also with the current infrastructure, logistics and economic, China is able to turn the whole country and 1.5 billion people into weapon factory which means we can build 5 planes/tanks if we lose 1 in the war and ship them to the provinces near Taiwan in a very short time. How can U.S do that?
Originally posted by lucasman
That is real nice for China, but how do you replace an experienced fighter / bomber pilot / flight or tank crew?
Your argument would only stand if you had trained personnel ligned up for the new toys. The newbies would fall to quickly and you'd be sending critical ressources to the bottom of the strait.