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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Some folks here talk about banning others with mental instability. How does one judged mental instability?
Look at Ellen Bragovich. Was she mad?
Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein - watergate conspiracy - were they mad?
Daniel Ellsberg - Pentagon papers - was he mad?
John Gravitt - a GE machinish - GE fraud - was he mad?
Mordeci Vannanu - spilt the beans on Israel's nuke arsenel - was he mad?
and many more......
admittedly, they didnt pull a gun and blow people away, but the point is at what stage in human behavoir does one do it? Are you capable to be the judge of it?
The only solution is NOT to throw such people away, lock them up and throw away the keys. They are humans just like us, seeking answers in their stages of confusion common every human. It is perfectly normal to be different for no one human is alike in every way.
The solution is to reach out to them, and assist them in any way within our limits, and if our limits are reached, then the community's help would be necessary with teams of volunteers.
Rather than to blame others for a fellow human turn violently mad, the blame lays with the community for not being in that position to recognised the disorder and assist them with proper human close contact help. Each and every human life is precious, and just too bad Jared wasted his and more cruelly, others. The blame lays not only with him who is fully responsible for his life, but his community for their failure.
Guns are not the problem. Violence is.
Guns cannot be stopped, just as a piece of rock cannot be made UNAVALIABLE as a weapon.
But violence can be stopped. It is triggered by the mind, and that which can be triggered by mind, can be influenced. With proper influences and education, unnecessary violence can be eradicated over time.
Originally posted by Negotium of Verum
So it begins...
It's only a matter of time before this is reported throughout the media. I just hope they don't portray everyone here as crazy, as that is not the case at all. Most people here have alot to offer the world.
In my opinion, I think the owner should release an official statement on the matter ASAP, and spread it to the major networks as a preventative. Quotes from people who responded with concern to this crazy killers ramblings could help our cause.edit on 9-1-2011 by Negotium of Verum because: =(
Originally posted by metalpr
reply to post by hotbakedtater
"the AZ shooter was indeed a member here."
I bet he has a Facebook account too and that means nothing.
We talk about anything here on ATS as many people talk about anything on Facebook, even AJ has a Facebook page.
so there's nothing to worry about.