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Gabrielle Giffords warns Sarah Palin there will be consequences.

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posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 06:53 PM
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Actually, I was thinking the resurrection of flying dinosaurs when I came across that ATS thread of the guy seeing a bird with long beak. And this eagle doesn't have a long beak or lime green in color. However, the well-paid, cable new programmers mentioned a "Glock 9mm" as a weapon the nut-ball (or mind-controlled victim, whatever) may have used during that crime scene.




posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 06:56 PM
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I don't see you suggesting any other people who may have enticed this. What I do see is you suggesting S.P. and or the Tea Party's actions could be the root to this horrible shooting. Sarah isn't PC, her speech, the words she uses is that of where she was raised and also her personality. She doesn't need to omit or tip-toe around overly sensitive people. Her analogies sound like that of a soldier, imo.
I guess pornography, guns, pc games, books, ect. should be put into the fire too.

You mentioned her show is not being renewed. What does that have to do with this?
Oh, she decided not to continue it another season

It seems that Palin was the one who decided Sunday’s season finale would be it’s last.

Why did you mention her daughter?

One more Sarah Palin coincidence. Her daughter recently bought a home in the state.

How does it fit into your imagination and the events of yesterday?

I'm sure there are other players in this and there will be a price to pay for it but I see nothing here but a subliminal agenda rant instead of truly being constructive like some of the other posters here.

Please explain the "coincidence"'s and how her daughter might play a role in this.

HBT, it is you who describes your personality, you like to start snip*.

SL



posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 07:13 PM
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There were issues about a law that would allow police to question suspected illegal immigrants. This caused nationwide protests.



Threatened before


The Washington Post said it was not the first time someone brought a gun to a Giffords event. A protester in August took a gun to a "Congress on Your Corner" event in Douglas, Arizona. Police were alerted after he dropped the firearm, the newspaper said
Arizona has been at the forefront of sharp and often ugly political conflicts over immigration and the role of government in the US. Rocks were thrown through the windows of Miss Gifford's constituency offices in Tucson last year.


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JD Hayworth, a conservative former Republican Arizona congressman, said that members of Congress and other politicians in the state have been shying away from large town hall-style meetings for security reasons.


SL



posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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I you think all I do is start snip, then it is fair to say, from the way you seriel post in some of my snippy threads, you enjoy the hell out of STIRRING that snip.

I am still waiting for the quote where I lay blame on Sarah palin or the Tea Party. reply to post by sweetliberty
 



posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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I you think all I do is start snip, then it is fair to say, from the way you seriel post in some of my snippy threads, you enjoy the hell out of STIRRING that snip.

I am still waiting for the quote where I lay blame on Sarah palin or the Tea Party. In fact the victims own father said the entire tea party is his daughters enemy, not me, I did not say that.

Please, also, still waiting the hate you speak of from my OP. The only hate I have seen is from you, towards me on a personal level, which we all know is against T n C.

You are the only one in the thread debating me instead of the topic. That smacks of agenda too. HMMMM. reply to post by sweetliberty
 



edit on Sun, 09 Jan 2011 19:16:08 -0600 by hotbakedtater because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 07:34 PM
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If you look two posts up of mine you will see I did show it.

I am debating the empty OP and would feel the same way if it was Obama instead of Palin being targeted like this.
Gabrielle Giffords father is in the worst pain a father could be in. He's in shock and is lashing out just as others are. S.P. is not responsible for the murders and injuries.

Why did you bring her daughter buying a house in this?

What does her show not being renewed have to do with this?

If you post on ats always expecting the other posts to be in agreement with you, then maybe you should post in bts.

Gabrielle's life was threatened before by others who directly threatened her. I have no doubt S.P. would not hesitate to confront someone face to face, she wouldn't need to be tricky and underhanded, speaking out of the side of her mouth like the game players I see doing on here.

SL


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posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 07:41 PM
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She is right - a radical experienced consequences. It was not Palin.



posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 07:52 PM
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What type of veiled comment is that? Are you saying the Congresswoman was radical? From what I've read she was liked by numerous colleagues in both parties and considered a 'Blue Dog' Democrat. (moderate) Just say what you mean without being coy.
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posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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You are not and have yet to debate my topic. You have spent each post in this thread debating me. I recognize this for what it is, piss poor debate tactics.

Still waiting for you to point out the hate in my OP.

In the mean time, I will finish watching the season finale of Sarah's TLC show.

When you can prove you are in my thread to debate the topic, and not me, I would feel more inclined to let you know why I added each post I added. reply to post by sweetliberty
 



posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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Wait! We should blame pot, rock music, conspiracy theorists or liberals for it!

Also," he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag. I haven't seen him in person since '07 in a sign language class" and "As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."


None of the above made the shooter(s) do this!

They had their mind made up, they used their own free will to kill.

SL



posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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That is not relevant to my thread. Can you tie this in with the questions I am putting forth in my OP, or do you just enjoy bumping snippy threads, as you so hatefully referred to my thread. The topic is, Is there an agenda with the plethora of coincidental information linking Palin and Giffords, and who and why would someone promote that agenda? Either pro sarah or anti sarah. I am basically talking about the publicity being whipped up around these connections.

Despite many posts from you regarding my snippy thread, you have yet to address the topic at all.


Originally posted by sweetliberty


Wait! We should blame pot, rock music, conspiracy theorists or liberals for it!

Also," he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag. I haven't seen him in person since '07 in a sign language class" and "As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."


None of the above made the shooter(s) do this!

They had their mind made up, they used their own free will to kill.

SL

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posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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She is a radical. She supported Obamacare (without reading the 2,000+ bill before she voted on it) and joined the radical left in smearing her opponents as haters and racists looking to murder the President. She is for amnesty for all the illegals who have snuck into the country. She supported the bankster bailout and the GM government takeover.

I know the party media is saying she is a "moderate." They are lying.

There is nothing "vieled" in what I said. She hates Palin for opposing her agenda and she played leftist hard ball with the left in smearing her opponents. In the end, she was the one who experienced the brunt of the radical political enviornment she created through word and deed. The left needs to calm down and stop inciting hate and violence against those who have the nerve to oppose them and beat them soundly in elections.



posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 08:01 PM
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Why plural? There were numerous eyewitnesses and the shooting is reported to have been caught on surveillance video. Only one gunman. The 2nd 'person of interest' was determined to be the cab driver who dropped him off.

Are you privy to exclusive information?
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posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by glome
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this is moronic. what do you have to be at every event and make sure its not a hologram or cgi to know for a fact that you aren't being manipulated by the powers that be... oh, and take whatever color pill it is that takes you out of the matrix.

this country has real problems that need to be solved.


Just my Opinion and common sense. There is no need nor reason to start insulting each other,kay?



posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by hotbakedtater
You are not and have yet to debate my topic. You have spent each post in this thread debating me. I recognize this for what it is, piss poor debate tactics.

Still waiting for you to point out the hate in my OP.

In the mean time, I will finish watching the season finale of Sarah's TLC show.

When you can prove you are in my thread to debate the topic, and not me, I would feel more inclined to let you know why I added each post I added. reply to post by sweetliberty
 




HBT, (lmao) Please do, enjoy the show.
Hopefully when you come back you will take a little time to read my posts and see that I have replied to your implications, subtle enticement to bask in the possibility of S.P. and the coincidental happenings :wink:
I've sited sources, I even proved why we should own up to our own responsibilities instead of throwing others under the bus.
I guess S.P.'s daughter bought a house there to be "the lookout person", to inform her mother for a good opportunity?
Bye bye HBT, enjoy.

SL



posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by sara123123
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She is a radical. She supported Obamacare (without reading the 2,000+ bill before she voted on it) and joined the radical left in smearing her opponents as haters and racists looking to murder the President. She is for amnesty for all the illegals who have snuck into the country. She supported the bankster bailout and the GM government takeover.

I know the party media is saying she is a "moderate." They are lying.

There is nothing "vieled" in what I said. She hates Palin for opposing her agenda and she played leftist hard ball with the left in smearing her opponents. In the end, she was the one who experienced the brunt of the radical political enviornment she created through word and deed. The left needs to calm down and stop inciting hate and violence against those who have the nerve to oppose them and beat them soundly in elections.


That is what I thought you meant, the tired and unfounded "Blame the Victim" card.
You are suggesting she got what she deserved. In a word.....pathetic. Partisan much?

Doesn't fly this time mam, there are innocent victims. Besides your argument suggests retaliation by opposing party. I thought the radical right were distancing themselves from this cowardly dirt bag.
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posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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Second Man Not Involved
I wasn't aware of this. I'm happy to know he acted alone and there isn't another murderer out there on the loose.

I wonder if the blame Sarah Palin is wearing thin?
Here we have "no connection" but "strong suspicions"
Arizona Suspected Gunman Passes FBI Check


The memo states that there is "no direct connection" between Loughner and the group, "but strong suspicion is being directed at AmRen / American Renaissance. Suspect is possibly linked to this group. (through videos posted on his MySpace and YouTube account.). The group's ideology is anti-government, anti-immigration, anti-ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government), anti-Semitic."


SL



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 07:15 AM
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The topic is, Is there an agenda with the plethora of coincidental information linking Palin and Giffords, and who and why would someone promote that agenda? Either pro sarah or anti sarah. I am basically talking about the publicity being whipped up around these connections.


They are simply linked via politics, and living in America. Now they are linked via the obedient sheeple grasping at straws.
It's frightening and yet comical to see how the masses step into line and follow the leader.
Your trying too hard to connect dots that aren't there which in realty is simply to follow the masses and to assist in tail chasing as directed by tptb for the moment. What does that accomplish except to feed into the junk; spewing it too.
How is Bristol buying a house "in the state" a "coincidence", how, in your opinion, is Bristol linked to the this tragedy?

How is Sarah Palin opting not to continue her show linked to this?
Are we that easily controlled?

The shooter was after her (Gifford) and he didn't need anyone's persuasion to fulfill his agenda.
The MSM and Sarah Palin haters however have used this to their advantage. They know the sheep will fall in line and gossip sells. Others simply fall in line for the sake of being a part of something popular and sending out negative energies for the fun of it.

The agenda is to rile the masses against a competitor. The agenda is to call on the puppets to keep the squeaky wheel squeaking.
Mission accomplished. The one's in control are pleased.


SL


ETA: I am not a Sarah Palin supporter but she does have my respect for helping to make a difference, and her candor.I could care less about Bristol and have never supported her either. I am however a T.P. supporter which is the voice of the people who leave the labels out of it.
My heart and prayers go out to the families and to the victims of this senseless tragedy.

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posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 08:07 AM
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I agree with this as well, it fits in with her hunting/outdoors/independent/mama grizzly theme. I do not think there was intention to lead others into causing harm, even though it may have. So far I have not seen definate evidence that the shooter was influenced by Palin in any way.

However, what worries me is the strong anti-Palin retoric from the media, blaming her by default for the shooting and deaths. Is it not just as harmful as Palin's crosshairs imagery, and could it not lead a similar nutcase into a revenge shooting attack on Palin? If someone seriously wanted to start some real civil unrest, we may have just seen the catalyst ...



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by sara123123
She is a radical.... She is for amnesty for all the illegals who have snuck into the country.


Where did you get your information? From listening to her political opponents' campaign ads?


You don't know anything about her. She used to be a Republican. She is now a Blue Dog (Conservative) Democrat. She supports gun rights, she is anti-drug, she is very concerned about illegal immigration and she opposes gay marriage. Doesn't sound like a 'radical' to me...



“Securing the border and stopping the narco-traffickers who threaten our communities is Southern Arizona’s greatest challenge, and no one has done more to address this challenge than Gabrielle Giffords. Since the day she took office, Gabrielle has been our advocate, pushing for commonsense enforcement measures like cracking down on employers who hire illegal workers, deploying boots on the ground and funding our law enforcement agencies.

“Jesse Kelly’s claim that Gabrielle is soft on border security is an election year stunt. The truth is that Giffords does not support amnesty. She does support real action to fix our broken immigration laws, and her work to protect our community from smuggling violence has been effective and aggressive.”


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