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Giffords shooter was a nut but, maybe not a politically motivated nut.

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posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 10:55 AM
There's a lot of irresponsible reporting going on out there blaming the Giffords shooting on right wing radical politics and violent partisanship but, a closer look at the shooting suspect and his victim makes one wonder about that assessment.

Giffords shooter shows pattern of psychiatric derangement; no clear political affiliation

The shooting suspect Jared Lee Loughner, is, by any sensible interpretation, mentally deranged. Yes, he mentioned the Constitution among his various ramblings, but he also listed the Communist Manifesto as being among his favorite books. In addition, he released a YouTube video containing unintelligible ramblings of repeated nonsense phrases, including references to the government taking away "grammar," of having a colorful bird on his shoulder, brainwashing and what he called "conscience dreaming."

The utterly false and irresponsible accusation floating around certain circles on the 'net that Loughner was some sort of extreme right winger who targeted a Democrat is extremely irresponsible and hateful. Giffords was pro Second Amendment and publicly supported the right of the People to keep and bear arms. She's actually a gun owner who urged the U.S. Supreme Court to protect Second Amendment rights. She was also a huge supporter of a stronger border with Mexico, which has traditionally been one of the key positions of Arizona conservatives. Giffords can't be pigeonholed into a label, you see. Her views are far more complex than "Democrat" vs "Republican." She is certainly no "left-wing liberal," and the attack on her doesn't appear to be politically motivated at all

In fact, numerous public shootings have been carried out by those who are either on psychiatric medications or who have recently stopped taking them (which can be just as dangerous in the short term). Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold talked about how their world had become like a dream, where they couldn't tell the difference between the dream world and the waking world. Those are now virtually the same words as Jared Lee Loughner who, in his various ramblings, talked about "sleepwalking" during the day and "conscience dreaming [sic]" at other times.

While we have no proof yet that psychiatric drugs are involved here, we do see a very suspicious pattern of mental instability that suggests a likely connection.

Natural News

It seems to me that the MSM is using this incident to further their agenda to vilify the right and people who believe in limited Constitutional government as nuts ready to go off on a shooting rampage at any moment.

Sure, the political atmosphere is very amped up right now but, that is because the American people are beginning to wake up to the reality that politics and the government have begun to influence most every aspect of their lives. If people want to have any amount of control in their lives anymore, they HAVE to get politically involved and politics, by its nature, is confrontational.

This incident by a lone nut should not put a damper on the political discourse going on in this country. People need to have their voices heard or the government will run roughshod over us all.

edit on 1/9/11 by FortAnthem because:

posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 11:00 AM
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Good work but alas those here have already made their connections that support their agendas. Nonetheless it was a good read.

posted on Jan, 9 2011 @ 07:46 PM
I'm kinda glad this one died; there's way to many of these threads around here already.

My apologies ATS for cluttering the boards with yet another thread on this issue.

posted on Aug, 20 2011 @ 01:24 PM
There are several things wrong with this thread.t

1) Giffords wasn't shot, she underwent a partial brain transplant into the body of 9 year old Christina Green.
2) Loughner was not the shooter, if there was a shooter at all it was "Joe Zamudio", the son of "Colonel Bill Badger".
3) The shooter, if there was one, may be emotionless and cruel but he is not insane.

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