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Originally posted by unityemissions
reply to post by JR MacBeth
I've researched the topic for years. The people who don't think we're currently overpopulated are ignorant. The logic they use isn't global, it's local. These people just can't see the forest from the trees. I don't expect you to ever change your mind, but that's okay. It's all going to happen anyways, and I much doubt anything you or I say on the subject will cause much change anyways.
Take care.
Now it's pretty much up to the elite to have a culling of the masses. We practically begged for this out of our continued state of ignorance. Bring it on already. Target those with low IQ, and wipe them from the face of this earth with a quickness. Then we can all get together and do what's best for our species and this planet. Too much scum getting in the way of global progress
You have no idea how broad my horizons are, brother, so don't assume anything. I just happen to have thought past my dreams and hopes and got down to bare facts. You still refuse to admit that our society is terrible, damn near cancerous, in its present form. You still refuse to admit that there are people out there who are draining the rest of us dry with laziness...
And while, yes, there are others draining us in other ways, at least they have the brains to do it in a subtle way. I have more respect for the 10% than the 85%, and I'm not afraid to say that.
I think that once we trim the fat of society, the meat will get a little healthier. And I think once we rid ourselves of that dead weight, we'll be able to move on and make the changes if enough people wake up and cease their selfish, violent, materialistic ways. But, once again, considering the mental capacity of the average person currently living on this planet... I don't see that happening any time soon. Which, once again comes down to social darwinism, We need to start with the stupid and the violent and work our way to the greedy... Then we can move on to that utopia you have in mind. K?
Originally posted by OneArt
reply to post by JR MacBeth
Once again, bro... You have no idea. But that's fine.
I never advocated human slaughter, you are putting words in my mouth. Read back through all my posts and I specifically argue against war and genocide... But that's cool. Twist my words. You still haven't answered a lot of points... But I'm sick of repeating myself.
You say the word elite... You spit it out of your mouth... But I don't get mad at people who have risen to the top of society, sometimes through what they did, sometimes through a parent or grandparent's actions. But even the elite cleanse their own ranks automatically. You don't stay on top unless you strive to be there...
My problem with "the dark masses" (your words) is that they don't strive for #. TRUST ME ON THIS.
You still haven't addressed the problem of welfare moms that I brought up, but it's cool we can let that go.
And you keep saying "Don't trust Massa", but I don't think you get it still. You can not trust whomever you please, but it doesn't change a damn thing. The people you are defending aren't even going to help you stand up to "Massa" because they are stupid and lazy. You have to realize that people let this # happen, and even if you changed the world, these same people would screw it up by handing the power back to some new "Massa".
We did it with our freedom loving little revolution. Got taken away because people stopped caring about the happenings of the government. From say right after the civil war until the 60s... And then from the mid 70s til Bush took office. Now, suddenly interest has peaked again in the last decade but the damage has been done. America is no more.
You say there is only one true enemy, but in my mind, and throughout history, the victim has handed the whip right over to the overseer. They're just as guilty, and they aren't really on your side even though you are fighting for them. Utopia isn't cool, it means that people would have to curb their materialism, their greed, their violence... And no one on my streets seems to have any interest in giving those things up.
Me, I try not to feed into it anymore. The experiment failed in so many ways. I'd rather just see it over and done with. I'm praying for rain. I'm praying for tidal waves.
Remember, the only freedom you or I will ever truly achieve is in our own minds.
Originally posted by JR MacBeth
But look closer still. What we see isn't exactly what you would want at all! In fact, people of "high IQ" are NOT being favored, quite the contrary! In fact, the lighter races are in decline!
Originally posted by SSDDay
reply to post by 46ACE
Come on man at least spell and punctuate your title correctly. Shouldn't need a HS drop out to tell you that.edit on 9-1-2011 by SSDDay because: Wrong person.
Originally posted by OneArt
Hear me out here people before you start bahhh-ing at your computer. I'm not a sheep but some people here really lack foresight.
Bottom line is, we are killing the planet, destroying flora, fauna, the atmosphere and natural resource reserves. I'm not a tree hugger, but that's those are the facts. We are overpopulated and overcrowded. There are poeople starving every second of the day because there isn't enough to go around...
All this is saying is that we need to conserve our resources and reduce our numbers... Now we can do this by setting aside wilderness (I doubt they'll ever be able to enforce the no human policy with millions of acres and a reduced population) and getting rid of some people... That doesn't have to mean genocide either... We could take after China and put a cap on the number of kids allowed per family. If you want to counter that this takes away from your rights to breed as you choose, try to think beyond yourselves and realize that your right to breed as choose is costing people the right to EAT as they choose.
By the way, has anyone ever seen the movie "Idiocracy"? Cause let me tell you, a bunch of ignorant, mindless #s churning out kids 4 times in 3 years is just what we need... Get out of here... I'm all for respecting the right to live and thrive, but I'm also all for my right to survive, as in survival of the fittest. And I'm really not sorry if I don't include violent, ignorant rednecks and hoodrats in my definition of the fittest.
If you're afraid of dying, then I've got some bad news for you... Everyone will go at one point or another...
If you're afraid that you won't be included in the new world order and that your line will become extinct, chances are you're right. Too bad for you. Just remember, it could've been a bus accident or some other random event. At least this way you're doing us all a favor.
And, last but not least, let me ask you all a serious question: Would you rather this be handled somewhat efficiently, or would you rather wait until resources become so scarce that nations (still separate and at odds with each other) are warring over them? Or even worse, until people are killing each other, starving and dying on the streets? Do you want to watch the bodies pile up on your doorstep, or be a body on someone else's? I know I don't.edit on 9-1-2011 by OneArt because: Addition
Originally posted by OneArt
Originally posted by JR MacBeth
reply to post by OneArt
Not enough resources and overpopulation are things I shouldn't even have to go into with anyone who has half a brain, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here.
if you've got better solutions, please let me hear them. But I doubt that you do, so in that case I'll just ask you to please answer my questions.
It will take years to deprogram you. Not a derogatory statement, but my honest estimate, based on the fact that you seem to have swallowed every lie, hook, line and sinker.
In my opinion, you are very far from even considering any kind of "solutions". Apparently, you have no idea of what the questions even might be.
Since you mention half a brain, I will only suggest taking small baby-bites to begin with. For example, I believe you will find this thread helpful:
The world population must be reduced at all costs...
Nice title too! While it is around 10 pages, there is a lot of good info in there that counter the popular notion that our masters have fed us, that is that we are suffering from "overpopulation".
Imagine for a moment "if" such a thing was actually not true at all. Imagine if exactly the OPPOSITE turned out to be true? Is it even remotely possible that human populations will be declining, or are already showing massive indications of catastrophic decline? Impossible!
Well, what can I say? Mind-bending, that such a lie could be so regarded as gospel truth, but as you can see, you'll obviously have to keep an open mind.
Will you choose the red pill, or the blue?
JR
Listen bro... You still haven't answered a single question I posed, but it's cool because you've been "deprogrammed" which means you don't have to answer logical questions, you just have to point me in the direction of a thread with major holes in its logic... You see, it's not the fact that people live that is the problem, it's the way we live, as I've been saying my whole life... Now until we have everyone on the same page, ready to live as nature intended instead of conquering and destroying all we see, we'll never be able to sustain our population. Period.
And for the record, it's not some wacked out programming that led me to believe that we use an abundance of synthetic, non-biodegradable substances in our every day lives... It's not programming that has shown me that people make and purchase tons of unnecessary crap that sits in landfills for decades.... And it's not programming that has shown me that the masses will never understand how they could change the world or even why they should, it's growing up around them that's responsible for that...
I'm NOT SORRY that, once again, I don't defend families of 7 who live off of social welfare. Social welfare, by the way, means that we (society at large) take care of these lazy, ignorant slobs.
I'm NOT SORRY that I think the world would do better with a smaller population comprised of highly intelligent individuals striving toward collective evolution.
I'm NOT SORRY that I think there should be a mandatory IQ test in order to breed, as opposed to genocide or war, as a way to achieve the above.
And by the way, the whole australia thing is beautiful... in theory. But the fact of the matter is, it's not the way of the world at this moment. We still have people STARVING while others get FAT. Also, I don't think the OP of that thread took into account arable land and distribution of resources and such on that continent, but I do understand the point, and in the distant future, it could be possible.
You have no idea how broad my horizons are, brother, so don't assume anything. I just happen to have thought past my dreams and hopes and got down to bare facts. You still refuse to admit that our society is terrible, damn near cancerous, in its present form. You still refuse to admit that there are people out there who are draining the rest of us dry with laziness...
And while, yes, there are others draining us in other ways, at least they have the brains to do it in a subtle way. I have more respect for the 10% than the 85%, and I'm not afraid to say that.
I think that once we trim the fat of society, the meat will get a little healthier. And I think once we rid ourselves of that dead weight, we'll be able to move on and make the changes if enough people wake up and cease their selfish, violent, materialistic ways. But, once again, considering the mental capacity of the average person currently living on this planet... I don't see that happening any time soon. Which, once again comes down to social darwinism, We need to start with the stupid and the violent and work our way to the greedy... Then we can move on to that utopia you have in mind. K?
Please, I await a reply.
Originally posted by BlackOps719
Originally posted by OneArt
Originally posted by JR MacBeth
reply to post by OneArt
Not enough resources and overpopulation are things I shouldn't even have to go into with anyone who has half a brain, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here.
if you've got better solutions, please let me hear them. But I doubt that you do, so in that case I'll just ask you to please answer my questions.
It will take years to deprogram you. Not a derogatory statement, but my honest estimate, based on the fact that you seem to have swallowed every lie, hook, line and sinker.
In my opinion, you are very far from even considering any kind of "solutions". Apparently, you have no idea of what the questions even might be.
Since you mention half a brain, I will only suggest taking small baby-bites to begin with. For example, I believe you will find this thread helpful:
The world population must be reduced at all costs...
Nice title too! While it is around 10 pages, there is a lot of good info in there that counter the popular notion that our masters have fed us, that is that we are suffering from "overpopulation".
Imagine for a moment "if" such a thing was actually not true at all. Imagine if exactly the OPPOSITE turned out to be true? Is it even remotely possible that human populations will be declining, or are already showing massive indications of catastrophic decline? Impossible!
Well, what can I say? Mind-bending, that such a lie could be so regarded as gospel truth, but as you can see, you'll obviously have to keep an open mind.
Will you choose the red pill, or the blue?
JR
Listen bro... You still haven't answered a single question I posed, but it's cool because you've been "deprogrammed" which means you don't have to answer logical questions, you just have to point me in the direction of a thread with major holes in its logic... You see, it's not the fact that people live that is the problem, it's the way we live, as I've been saying my whole life... Now until we have everyone on the same page, ready to live as nature intended instead of conquering and destroying all we see, we'll never be able to sustain our population. Period.
And for the record, it's not some wacked out programming that led me to believe that we use an abundance of synthetic, non-biodegradable substances in our every day lives... It's not programming that has shown me that people make and purchase tons of unnecessary crap that sits in landfills for decades.... And it's not programming that has shown me that the masses will never understand how they could change the world or even why they should, it's growing up around them that's responsible for that...
I'm NOT SORRY that, once again, I don't defend families of 7 who live off of social welfare. Social welfare, by the way, means that we (society at large) take care of these lazy, ignorant slobs.
I'm NOT SORRY that I think the world would do better with a smaller population comprised of highly intelligent individuals striving toward collective evolution.
I'm NOT SORRY that I think there should be a mandatory IQ test in order to breed, as opposed to genocide or war, as a way to achieve the above.
And by the way, the whole australia thing is beautiful... in theory. But the fact of the matter is, it's not the way of the world at this moment. We still have people STARVING while others get FAT. Also, I don't think the OP of that thread took into account arable land and distribution of resources and such on that continent, but I do understand the point, and in the distant future, it could be possible.
You have no idea how broad my horizons are, brother, so don't assume anything. I just happen to have thought past my dreams and hopes and got down to bare facts. You still refuse to admit that our society is terrible, damn near cancerous, in its present form. You still refuse to admit that there are people out there who are draining the rest of us dry with laziness...
And while, yes, there are others draining us in other ways, at least they have the brains to do it in a subtle way. I have more respect for the 10% than the 85%, and I'm not afraid to say that.
I think that once we trim the fat of society, the meat will get a little healthier. And I think once we rid ourselves of that dead weight, we'll be able to move on and make the changes if enough people wake up and cease their selfish, violent, materialistic ways. But, once again, considering the mental capacity of the average person currently living on this planet... I don't see that happening any time soon. Which, once again comes down to social darwinism, We need to start with the stupid and the violent and work our way to the greedy... Then we can move on to that utopia you have in mind. K?
Please, I await a reply.
Your whole entire post stinks. It sounds like the type of rhetoric that would have been found in some Nazi eugenics handbook.
What will you do when your child, or for that matter you yourself, turn out to be one of these "undesireables"? People like you always want to use the strong arm of the government to do their dirty work, wiping out the poor and the mentally inferior, probably lot's of brown people and poor people who may not have been given the same chances to excell in life.
So who get's to decide who lives and who dies? You? What makes you so qualified and worthwhile that you will live while others are extinguished? What makes you special?
You talk about doing away with the dumb and the violent, unfortunately it sounds as if those are the people you would be in collusion with in order to enforce your mass genocide.
Sane, well balanced, free thinking individuals do not typically side with racist depopulation ideology.
Strike two.
Perhaps one day you will live long enough to be on the losing side of your argument. As they say "It aint no fun when the rabbits got the gun".
Originally posted by OneArt
I'm not a sheep but some people here really lack foresight.
Bottom line is, we are killing the planet, destroying flora, fauna, the atmosphere and natural resource reserves. We are overpopulated and overcrowded. There are poeople starving every second of the day because there isn't enough to go around...
If you're afraid that you won't be included in the new world order and that your line will become extinct, chances are you're right.