jared lee loughner- errie comment on someones myspace page about a weird bird!

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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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Let me try this again.

Oswego put that Bird story up for a reason. Let us get back to the birdie thingy.

1st sentence Dont be afraid of the Stars= something in space

2nd New Bird= It could mean a weapon?, or the "GREEN" meteor "do you see the bird on my shoulder" well in the video the only thing on his shoulder is the background "Arizona" where people have reported this "green" meteor.

3rd Beak= birds "manipulate things or probe things with their beaks. According wikipedia.

4th 2ft lime Green= again a piece of meteor look at 5th

5th rarest Bird on earth no feathers grey scales= Rare Earth elements maybe this is a long shot.

*Praseodymium from the Greek "prasios", meaning leek-green, and "didymos", meaning twin. *green and twin) Green meteor and The New found rocky earth like Planet.

6th Red eye blue Iris= Gods Nebula

7th * I need help on this woodpecker thing

8th This new bird only one= again meteor not male or female

that's it for now unless someone can do sentences 9 10 11
have to leave but will be back.




posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by JDofENGLAND

Originally posted by iamlizzyb

Originally posted by IamAbeliever
I asked this question once before, many pages ago. If there really truly is something he is trying to tell us, could it be in one of his posts with the many numbers, and these are where we need to be looking? Or could the dude just be bat$hit crazy and we have all lost 3.5 days of our lives?




What is wrong or right with the current date?

How is the current date right or wrong?

Why is or isn't this the date?

When is or isn't the date ending or beginning?

Today is July 7th 2010.

Why is the year infinite in the date?

Example:
Today is July 7th 201062010654843578465784151015954324841895498201065484357846578415101595432484189549820106548435784657841510159543248418954982010654843578465784151015 954324841895498201065484357846578415101595432484189549820106548435784657841510159543248418954982010654843578465784151015954324841895498201065484357846 578415101595432484189549820106548435784657841510159543248418954982010654843578465784151015954324841895498201065484357846578415101595432484189549820106 548435784657841510159543248418954982010654843578465784151015954324841895498201065484357846578415101595432484189549820106548435784657841510159543248418 954982010654843578465784151015954324841895498201065484357846578415101595432484189549820106548435784657841510159543248418954982010654843578465784151015 954324841895498201065484357846578415101595432484189549820106548435784657841510159543248418954982010654843578465784151015954324841895498548435784657841 51015954324841895498

This will or will not continue in year for how long?


What are the viewers thoughts of a infinite year?



And then this one:

If 987,123,478,961,876,341,234,098,601,978,618 is the year in B.C.E. then the previous year is 987,123,478,961,876,341,234,098,601,978,619 B.C.E.




The thing that I haven't seen people comment on is in the vid with the flag; toward the end he says "you didn't know B.C.E. isn't starting." Maybe this has something to do with the numbers as well.
You saying that made me come up with something this could be hot. I think he means we or time dont exist because he want you to watch the video in reverse so that should be the first you see B.C.E isnt starting The only way B.C.E couldn't start is if time isnt real or if we don't exist
edit on 11-1-2011 by JDofENGLAND because: spelling



B.C.E. can't start because well, let me put it this way

A.D.E. starts from 1, so basically its like this:

B.C.E. 321 [rez] 123 A.D.E. (i know rez doesnt occur in bce/ade but i didnt want to put 0 as a year)

his logic is that BCE never starts because well look at it, it counts down and we cant see the beginning of it(do YOU know when time started exactly?)

its also for this reason he says ADE doesn't end, and so the year is infinite(this is something he obsesses over)

he believes that nobody should believe something if the source isn't there and proved to be true, this is why BCE and ADE are the way they are for him

BCE doesn't start because nobody knows when it started (how do scientists prove existence started so many years ago? its just a theory)

ADE is infinite because nobody knows when it will end

if you dont know when, you dont know if, and it isnt

using jared logic
if the source is not present or is invalid, the information is false
the source is not present or is invalid
therefor, the information is false.

you see what i mean?



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:15 PM
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Thank you. You said it better than I could. I think your exactly right. If theres any question for anyone about the "BLOG" go back and fact check thru the thread and see if everything checks out (thaqt this poster is saying, ie. the names and such) and youll too see this is the most likely senario.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by FreeSafety
Two things really quick

1. I'm reasonably certain that the youtube account ThGreatPiniter isn't JLL. Done a lot of digging today, and I think it's very highly likely it (and the FB account Pintopia) belongs to the poster "Pintsized" at the world of warcraft website thetldr.com. Pintsized can't be JLL, as he's been posting today at that site re: the shootings. In the video where thegreatpiniter talks about oombis and tidlers, he even says people have said to him "Pintsized, we want it to be normal..." or something like that. At any rate, he mentions himself as "Pintsized", a member who has been posting at that site even today. I don't recall how we got the connection from JLL to that account, but I believe it's bunk.

2. The blog. Unless it was a blog owned by Gabby Giffords, there's no way to know it was her arguing with JLL in the comments section of it. Obviously we have a couple JLL handles like classitup10 and starhitshnaz. Therefore, if one of those, or maybe part of his name were used in a comment left before last Saturday, there could be a reasonable assumption he typed it. However, even if someone used Giffords name in their comments, there's no reason to think it was really her. I doubt many congresspeople spend much time arguing on blogs, and I really doubt they would divulge the sort of information that was supposedly in that one. Much, much, much more likely would be someone lying about who they are, or what they know. Therefore, I also believe the blog is bunk. When the poster oswego was originally commenting about it, he said it was between 2 people, one who called themself "cash_itup" and another who called themself "gibbs2". I think in his excitement at causing a stir, he forgot that JLL used "CLASSitup", not cash, and that Gabby's last name is Giffords, not Gibbs.

Hope this post helps people not rack their brain looking for things that are either unrelated or nonexistant.



Im sorry but this makes the most sense. Look at all the mistakes "oswego" made. HE IS/WAS A FRAUD.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by SHABBYCAT
reply to post by FreeSafety
 


Thank you. You said it better than I could. I think your exactly right. If theres any question for anyone about the "BLOG" go back and fact check thru the thread and see if everything checks out (thaqt this poster is saying, ie. the names and such) and youll too see this is the most likely senario.


Thanks.

And yes, I encourage anyone to go back and look. It's somewhere around pages 28-32, IIRC. You'd be really close if that's not exactly right.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:22 PM
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So from what I gather, either he realised that because we have no proof of the existence of Jesus, we can't really have a true date or know what year we're really in and it was a total mind screw-up or he discovered something that proves the non-existence of something which was related to a theory he may have had that got ignored.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:25 PM
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I can see where your coming from no one can say when time began but id say time began once man created it. Maybe he trying to say something along them lines
edit on 11-1-2011 by JDofENGLAND because: spelling



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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That actually makes sense - are we going crazy too??!?!

We base time on when Christ was supposedly born - carbon dating, calenders, everything is based on when christ was born. Kinda makes ya think....
edit on 1/11/11 by I.C. Weiner because: more thought



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by FreeSafety

Originally posted by IamAbeliever
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Who is the guy in the right hand photo? That is definitely the same person in that mugshot. Same moles, eye shape, everything is a match. Anyone know who he is?


Yes, it's Glenn Beck.

and you're absolutely right, they look identical...except one has hair.

This is what he's talking about, guys.


this isnt being responsible people,,,,PHOTOSHOP come on people died here lets have a little respect for the living



Now THIS would be some ATS stuff...



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:33 PM
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Originally posted by curious7
So from what I gather, either he realised that because we have no proof of the existence of Jesus, we can't really have a true date or know what year we're really in and it was a total mind screw-up or he discovered something that proves the non-existence of something which was related to a theory he may have had that got ignored.


well not exactly, but sort of

he doesn't believe in god(or jesus as a heavenly figure worthy of being the basis of our dating system) for the same reasons he doesnt believe in the dating system itself

ill break it down in the reasoning he would use for both accounts

if B.C.E has no known beginning, then the B.C.E can not be accurately measurable.
B.C.E has no known beginning
therefor, B.C.E can not be accurately measurable

if A.D.E has no known ending, then A.D.E is infinite and can not be accurately measurable
A.D.E has no known ending,
A.D.E can not be accurately measurable

he justifies it with his own personal reasoning which is that you can not believe something if you do not know the source, or if the source is invalid

the source of the bible is not known
jared does not believe in the bible

the source of the theory of god is not known
jared does not believe in the theory of god

the source of modern currency is invalid(by ways of using this currency to control the masses)
jared does not believe in modern currency

do you see the pattern here? the logic that jared uses isn't just jargon, it's a way to structure his beliefs based on his personal reasoning, and truly isn't illogical even if it isn't a bit cryptic

if jared were able to express this properly i believe he would have been much better off.

by the way BCE stands for before common era and ADE anno domini ; these are used to measure time not by the death of christ, but before the common era, this is important when analyzing jareds texts



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by JDofENGLAND
reply to post by DeenUS
 


I can see where your coming from no one can say when time began but id say time began once man created it. Maybe he trying to say something along them lines
edit on 11-1-2011 by JDofENGLAND because: spelling


I think Jared was saying simply "time is". It never started. It never stops. It simply is.

Because time simply 'is', there is no starting point. Thus, BCE can never start. If BCE can never start, then it can never end, and CE can never begin. I see it as a metaphysical proposition, his philosophy, so to speak. He was obviously an atheist or agnostic. I think Jared was protesting acceptance of the norm.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:35 PM
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i dont think we're going crazy, maybe me for actually being able to understand what hes saying

he was clearly somehow mentally deranged, or somehow unable to express himself, i have a theory for why he couldn't express himself as well based on other things he had said but i'll let that lie unless somebody is genuinely interested



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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I have a horrible feeling that the only reason he shot Giffords was because he knew that if he did that, people like us would analyse his "life's work" and eventually figure out what he was trying to say on the boards when he was a member here.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:40 PM
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Post your theory in the thread "into the mind of jared" or something along that line is the title, I'm following that too.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:46 PM
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I just think the key to all this is in his insane ramblings. Not some mystical creature or end of world scenario.

It is possible that Giffords told him something she knew, that he shouldn't have been privy to. I think maybe she shouldn't have been privy to it either, but was trusted non the less with the info. Now she screwed up and was possibly silenced because she couldn't keep a secret.

I don't think there's any anagrams here, just a crazy guy trying to tell people what he knew, but not making much scene when he tried to be cryptic about it.


You shouldn't be afraid of the stars. – Stop worrying about what might be out there and start worrying about what’s already here.

There’s a new bird on my right shoulder – A new Political movement, power or figure, controlling him (sitting on his right shoulder). Not necessarily a “right wing figure”.

The beak is two feet and lime green – A weapon? Laser, Plasma, Biological, Chemical?

The rarest bird on earth, there's no feathers, but small grey scales all over the body – A Prototype aircraft on which the weapon is mounted? A Space Prototype of some kind perhaps “the Scales”?

It's with one large red eye with a light blue iris – An unmanned craft with Laser/Camera guidance? A new type of Targeting System?

The bird feet are the same as a woodpecker – “A large, heavy aircraft with 4 sets of wheels on the landing gear “two on front and two on the back of each”.

This new bird and there's only one, the gender is not female or male – Possibly a reference to the fact that this new bird dose not discriminate who it is used against?

The wings of this bird are beautiful; - 3 feet wide with the shape of a bald eagle that you could die for – It’s a nice looking craft, that bears the emblem of a Bald Eagle? A craft that many may end up dying for or by.

If you can see this bird then you will understand –Once we see this bird, we’ll understand what it’s going to be used for.

You think this bird is able to chat about a government? – Possibly not a government project, perhaps a block op that the US Govt’ isn’t even aware of and thus can’t talk about it. Maybe a shadow Govt’ weapon to be used against its own people/the world? “hence people could die for this bird, is the US going to start a war/First strike”?

This is what I got, but I'm still only guessing. He was crazy as a loon and if he did know something, we may never know because of the way he tried to hide the meaning in gibberish, which he may have taught was cleaver.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by DeenUS
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i dont think we're going crazy, maybe me for actually being able to understand what hes saying

he was clearly somehow mentally deranged, or somehow unable to express himself, i have a theory for why he couldn't express himself as well based on other things he had said but i'll let that lie unless somebody is genuinely interested
Lets hear it ill give it a read i thinking we are making progress into his mindset.......



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:50 PM
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posted it in the thread you mentioned.



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:52 PM
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I had thoughts along those lines, but adding the numbers into play I think it is something more, even if the something doesn't turn out to be earth shattering.

If what your saying is the case, then why use specific numbers. They weren't random, as far as I can tell, and they were not sequential, like if it was a count down of time.

I was playing around with a train of thought at one point that maybe the numbers were a code for acronymns or something like that, so I did the simple 1=A, 2=B and so on thing. Using that idea I found the 961 part of the string of numbers is IFA, and funny enough, it is the Institute for Astronomy in Hawaii..lol

Idk.. maybe its something maybe its nothing, but the curiousity is killing me.

(sorry about any spelling or grammatical errors)
edit on 11-1-2011 by iamlizzyb because: made an oopsy..



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by DeenUS
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posted it in the thread you mentioned.
you may aswel copy and paste it into here
edit on 11-1-2011 by JDofENGLAND because: spelling



posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 07:53 PM
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kay, i will


it seems from what he wrote that he tried to convey that the government currently controls the grammar, and through the grammar is mind controlling those who use and know it

in his other posts he mentions how easy it is to effectively brainwash somebody willing and capable to learn something new

for instance: if somebody were to come to more or less anybody on ats and say that they have proof of the biggest conspiracy to hit the modern world, you better believe they would be on the ride instantly and would hang off their every word

that is just the beginning. soon they begin to present ideas and things that basically interest you in what hes talking about, to the point that you're so deep in the conversation the lines are opened for manipulation.

now you're told that you can help this cause

naturally you want to help the cause, they give you an objective and you do it

what you dont realize : there hasnt actually been any proof, but you are so desperate to find an alternative to what is commonly known that you were willing to submit your will to somebody you barely know in search of the 'truth'

you have been mind controlled.




JLL believes that this is what the government is currently doing to the masses through grammar, the monetary system, and removing individualism to make them feel like theyre part of a community by doing what they do.

and so; JLL refuses to use the grammar in the hopes that he will not submit his will AGAIN to this oppressive government

that explains why he speaks so cryptically, and why he refuses to speak normally. he struggled so hard to explain this but because of what he saw as the true grammar and the true logic(untainted by the government, made up by himself, pulled from an infinite source of words that exist in his mind) he could not properly convey this message to those who use the mind-controlling grammar

because he refused to use that grammar, he couldn't tell you what he thought. because of this he thought the government could lie about anything, even 'proof' that things such as the mars rover or moon landings are indeed possible, just by manipulating the grammar.

he didnt feel that he was above anybody by using proper grammar or his logic, but he did feel that he was truly free and enlightened.

he took this enlightened feeling and tried to explain it to people but they labeled him as crazy, a schizo.

he eventually couldn't bear to be in a world where nobody understands the truth and felt that he would lash out one last time against the government that sought to control him and everything he knows and loves.





he felt he was a man who had the answers, but couldn't properly express them because the government had tainted the world beyond repair.





consider this.







edit: if anyone happens to have any questions about this theory feel free to ask me





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