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Gabrielle Giffords Shot: Congresswoman Reportedly Shot In Arizona [UPDATED]

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posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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Was just reported 5 minutes ago that
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., is CONFIRMED dead.

Truly a sad sad story. For what its worth I happen to live in her district here in AZ and well I will be interested in hearing the details in why the shooter did what he did as I am willing to bet that this was a guy who in the end chose to vote with a bullet. In fact I almost predicted something like this might happen as (may God rest her soul) she was not really liked here in Tucson as a political figure as she was commonly known to being incompetent and not ever really having Tucson's best interest at heart. Basically she was considered as just another extension of the Obummer administration that could only make generalized statements during her campaign for reelection on issues and where she stood on them when questioned. In short she did nothing for this district except gross mismanage city funds and vote positive on anything that stripped more of our rights away (the typical liberal socialist Obummer ideology rep).

Again....NO ONE DESERVES THIS, and immediately said a prayer asking God to please accept her into His kingdom, and for her family. But I can only hope now that her opponent Jesse Kelley (who literally came within HUNDREDS of votes to winning her seat and was the Tea Party favorite) is able to fill her role now.

NT




posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by SlinkyDFW
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The Secret Service do not typically provide protection for lower level congress members. Usually, they're on their own, with a couple of staffers and maybe a 'hired gun' if they need it.


That question came up on the news. Even locla police are not notified of her events due to the number she has on a daily basis (upwards of 6).

Private Security staff (off duty police possibly) if any security staff at all.

EDIT - Apparently a security officer on scene drew his weapon and returned fire, wounding the shooter.
edit on 8-1-2011 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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Right how can they have so many conflicting stories?

IT DOES NOT TAKE A GENIUS to know if someone is dead or alive.

Check THE PULSE!!



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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No one is gonna ban you for having a ridiculous opinion...

Having cross hairs on a map on some website run by a politician DID NOT CAUSE THIS.

Unless that has been specifically cited as the reason behind this?

No?

Hmmmm.

We HAVE NO DATA on what actually happened...So as i was saying, can we at LEAST let the body get cold before we turn her into a political football?



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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My first guess, which is just as good as any guess, that it was some crazy tea-bagger who did this and not a Mexican drug cartel?

What could a Mexican drug cartel accomplish by killing a Democratic US Congressperson other than bringing unwanted attention and pressure from law enforcement?

On the other hand, I could see some crazy tea-bagger getting his jollies off by killing a pinko-socialist democrat.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:40 PM
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Yea I just got that she was dead too

abcnews.go.com...

Thats messed up I need to read this whole forum. I was just going to post the story.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by dasauto
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Right how can they have so many conflicting stories?

IT DOES NOT TAKE A GENIUS to know if someone is dead or alive.

Check THE PULSE!!


One would think but Federal Law prevents any release of information about a patient unless authorized by FAmily.

HIPPA



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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she was on the list

Can't find the page that I saw first that mentioned the list.
She would have been a replacement for all of us from Palin.



www.huffingtonpost.com...

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ED: anyone notice this:

Banned video proving Zionist commies are controlling the ... 17 posts - 10 authors - Last post: Jan 14, 2007 Link : www.abovetopsecret.com. ..... Gabrielle Giffords [26] Democrat AZ-08 2006 Arizona's first Jewish congresswoman ... www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread262796/pg1 - Cached

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posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by BingeBob
This whole story already stinks...Where was the US secret service? This was a planned event.

All the news sites that allow users to comment on the story are filled with "teabagger" comments and "faux news" Which i find fanatical and in poor taste.


I wonder why TPTB wanted her dead.

Yes, this was a planned assassination. Politicians cannot trust security at these places.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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I was simply using an example of a political figure insinuating use of this type of violence. Like I said, doesn't matter what an individual has behind their name, what matters is what they allow to come out of their mouth and who the type of actions that they incite.

Its not a ridiculous opinion either. I'm asking if its appropriate for political figures to encourage, joke around, or use inflammatory symbolism in order to push a political agenda.

I'll repeat, I'm not pushing a persecution. I'm simply asking a question.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:45 PM
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I have no idea how they could not know, but CNN is on cable reporting that she "may" actually be alive and in surgery now.

The local news report I linked to on page one was taken down, and it had reported that she was shot point blank in the head.

How can surgery fix that?

Maybe she will make a miraculous recovery in the next report?




posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by Jessicamsa

Originally posted by BingeBob
This whole story already stinks...Where was the US secret service? This was a planned event.

All the news sites that allow users to comment on the story are filled with "teabagger" comments and "faux news" Which i find fanatical and in poor taste.


I wonder why TPTB wanted her dead.

Yes, this was a planned assassination. Politicians cannot trust security at these places.


Either privde evidence this was a planned assasination by the Government, or shut the hell up. It gets old seeing people claim conspiracy with absolutely nothing to back it up.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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Hospital is confirming she is alive and in surgery. She is not dead.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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sounds like a hit to me..not be cartel members but by Republicans



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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For the love of God people can you put the partisan BS away for ten minutes and show some respect for people who are fallen?

Dear God sometimes this blind party loyalty crap wears me thin.

~Heff



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by dasauto
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Right how can they have so many conflicting stories?

IT DOES NOT TAKE A GENIUS to know if someone is dead or alive.

Check THE PULSE!!


The PULSE means nothing. You can revive someone without a pulse. There are actually 6 situations where you can declare death as being for sure :

1. Decapitation
2. Rigor Mortis
3. Brain crushed/out of skull/in pieces
4. Waxing of the skin
5. Charred/Burnt
6. Cut in half/disembowled

Other than that, unless you are a medical professional, you cannot declare someone officially dead or should not stop trying to do CPR.

This is what is taught to us at the police academy.

Magnum



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by primetime2123
sounds like a hit to me..not be cartel members but by Republicans


See post 2 above yours.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by projectvxn
Having cross hairs on a map on some website run by a politician DID NOT CAUSE THIS.

We HAVE NO DATA on what actually happened...So as i was saying, can we at LEAST let the body get cold before we turn her into a political football?


Exactly. I wonder if someone had the time to do some research exactly how many times "cross-hairs" or the concentric circles of a target were used in political and other ads?

"Targeting" something in politics does not mean shooting at it. It simply means that an emphasis is going to be placed on that issue to get it changed.

Last, shooting a democrat to remove them from office as some fools are already claiming is doubly stupid as another - and likely more partisan - democrat is going to be appointed/elected to replace the one that was killed.
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posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by Hefficide

For the love of God people can you put the partisan BS away for ten minutes and show some respect for people who are fallen?

Dear God sometimes this blind party loyalty crap wears me thin.

~Heff


Correct.

Please also post your comments on the Huffngton Post, because they are doing everything they can to fan those flames.




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