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BREAKING Gabrielle Giffords Shot: Congresswoman Reportedly Shot In Arizona [UPDATED]

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posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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I've watched these videos and this guy is profoundly psychotic. I have some experience in this regard and there's no question about it in my opinion. The overwhelming majority of psychotics are harmless or obviously this type of thing would happen a lot more often.




posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by EssenSieMich

Originally posted by ziggystrange
reply to post by dasauto
 


Rep Gifford was on Sarah Palin's Target list. Let's wait and see what this monster says.

You people blaming the Mexican cartels, and the random act of violence are afraid this may be what many of suspect it is a political assassination attempt by a Tea Party or Militia member.

Stop the hypocrisy let's wait for the facts, and the pieces will fall where they belong.


Look who's talking, you've already blamed Gov. Palin and the Tea Party. The primary reason that it does not look like a politically motivated shooting is that there were so many secondary targets that were hit. If this were politically motivated the targets would be very precise, there wouldn't be random people shot in the process. This guy was probably just an anti-gun nut job.


Yes, all the "anti-gun nut jobs" I know regularly carry guns and open fire on innocent people...


And if you think this Congresswoman was shot just at random and the shooter had no agenda then I think you are wrong. They just said on BBC News now that this Congresswoman beat a popular Tea Party candidate who was tipped to win the latest election. Anyone got any more news on this?



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by kiwifoot
Check out this facebook page:@

www.facebook.com...#!/profile.php?id=100001952074770

lives in Tucson, people that inspire him:





Barack Obama

Saul Alinsky

Noam Chomsky

Hugo Chávez

Che Guevara

and get this:



Fight the Right! Obama and the Progressives will overcome the tyrrany of big business and the racist Tea Party.

BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!


This is just crazy
edit on 8-1-2011 by kiwifoot because: (no reason given)


Great post! Yeah, he's a real right-wing Tea Party nutcase alright, given that list of heroes!



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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Did you all know she is a Jew? Might have also been a problem for the shooter..anti-Semitism?

If you did, sorry, I have been reading the thread, watching CNN and reading the AFP. I may not be keeping up.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by dontreally
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that is a strange list of people. Contradictions right and center.

His like for Noam chomsky links up with his going to school and studying 'grammar' (linguistics)...

But for a guy who studied grammar.. strangely enough, doesnt have good grammar.



Note that earlier in this thread no facebook page could be found. This was just put up by someone today.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:57 PM
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What is sick is that the pols in D.C. will use this as an oppourtunity. Left/right, anyone of these swamp dwellers do that and they'll be asking for pink slips next election.

What was it Obama said? Never let a good crisis go to waste?



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by AeonStorm
Hmm. Found this on CBC. Not sure if anyone has picked this up yet.


Giffords herself has drawn the ire of the right, especially for her support of the health care bill.


Source: The CBC

Considering all the opposition to the health care reform in the U.S. this could be the MO of the perpetrator but until we know more this is just an assumption.
edit on 8-1-2011 by AeonStorm because: SP


She also had the support of the right, because of her stance on border security and the second amendment.

Judging from his nonsensical rants...I think this dude is not right in the head. Psychotic, schizophrenic, I don't know. He certainly doesn't sound rational.....



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by Ben81
wait ..shot in the head at point blank range ..
and now they say she is alive and in recovery at the hospital
is this a tactical lie ?


It's possible that it is on the up and up, stranger things have happened before, but it will also fuel the CIA body double debates for months or years to come


Start capturing pics of her today for comparison!



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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MK ULTRA anyone????????

Check out his youtube, which includes stuff about MIND CONTROL

www.youtube.com.../u/2/PnNx0WThoF0



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by angelwrangler
Did you all know she is a Jew? Might have also been a problem for the shooter..anti-Semitism?

If you did, sorry, I have been reading the thread, watching CNN and reading the AFP. I may not be keeping up.

didnt know that ..

how many jew or should i said zionist rule the congress by now ?



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
I just do not believe that Loughner
is Tea Party.

He has a flag burning video
on his youtube.

A TP would never do that.


There's no evidence that this guy uploaded that flag-burning video or took part in it, it was just listed as one of his favourite videos on his youtube account.

Maybe the flag-burning denotes the "death of American society, values etc" stuff that Tea Party people often talk about? Who knows, we need to wait for more info to emerge.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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Well obviously hes crazy.

Question is.. Was it a natural development...Or was he the hapless victim of a mkultra type conditioning. Im guessing its the latter for a few reasons.

1) the timing is uncanny.
2) there are many people with schizphrenia. how many of them commit these sort of offences?
3) and against public official?
4) he also happens to harbor political views that are antithetical to mainstream views.

But no doubt he is completely incoherent and probably sufferring some schizphrenic delusion. The fact that he speaks of himself in the past tense indicates he not only planned to carry out these attacks but had a conviction that he had to carry out these attacks. Theres a very sublte sense of him having a goal; but being unable to properly justify or articulate it.

And the fact that he left all this pertinent information on his myspace, facebook and youtube account is another indicator that was probably "setup".



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:58 PM
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Not sure how anyone can say that his videos look professional - because the guy doesn't know what compression IS in the remotest sense of the word.

DEC 15 and TSA madness was in high swing, he probably was going into psychosis then and decided to get political and put his message out. It only escalated and today he shot some folks.

I mean like - me, for example - all the things that I believe in - if I went bat wonky psychotic what might I do if I packaged all my beliefs into a crazy box with guns and ammo?



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by mydarkpassenger

Originally posted by kiwifoot
Check out this facebook page:@

www.facebook.com...#!/profile.php?id=100001952074770

lives in Tucson, people that inspire him:





Barack Obama

Saul Alinsky

Noam Chomsky

Hugo Chávez

Che Guevara

and get this:



Fight the Right! Obama and the Progressives will overcome the tyrrany of big business and the racist Tea Party.

BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!


This is just crazy
edit on 8-1-2011 by kiwifoot because: (no reason given)


Great post! Yeah, he's a real right-wing Tea Party nutcase alright, given that list of heroes!


That facebook page is a confirmed fake.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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What is with the childishness here lately on ATS?

I wish people would refrain from trying to attach a party label to any one incident, it shows the level depth or lack of depth that we find here on ATS frequently.

Are people that insecure about themselves they feel the need to attach a party label to a particular incident?

I'll bet he ate a McDonald's too, so maybe we should be scared to go to McDonald's?



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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Of course there's something wrong in his head.

He's a very left-wing Progressive/Liberal who admires El Che.

Well, Che Guevera would be proud of him today.

'Course, he got hunted down too.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 04:01 PM
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This is just horrible, regardless of how you feel about the persons political stance. This woman was elected, and the best way to deal with her political views if you disagree is by rallying voters and petitioning. People who do this, who just go and shoot politicians, representitives, because they personally do not see eye to eye, it's a cop out.

At times violence is necessary, these are rare times. This is not one of those cases.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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McDonalds kinda scares me anyway...




posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by FarArcher
Of course there's something wrong in his head.

He's a very left-wing Progressive/Liberal who admires El Che.

Well, Che Guevera would be proud of him today.

'Course, he got hunted down too.


That facebook page is a confirmed fake. The only information we have on this guy is what he has posted on his youtube page. Nobody has managed to find his facebook account yet AFAIK.
edit on 8-1-2011 by Lurch because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by Ben81
wait ..shot in the head at point blank range ..
and now they say she is alive and in recovery at the hospital
is this a tactical lie ?


That's exactly what I thought when I heard it. That and the amount of secondary targets indicate that it was either a complete false flag or an anti-gun nut job.




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