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Originally posted by Elzon
Great, now go make a modular, self-sustaining, floating city and take to the high seas
High Seas/ International waters
Then formulate a workable system so we can all come join you, making it profitable helps
Originally posted by whatukno
So, tell me if the following statements can be considered True by an Anarchist/Libertarian.
No one can tell me what to do.
No one can be the boss of me.
I should be able to do what I want, when I want and how I want to do it.
There should be no negative reaction to the actions I take.
Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman
What about a bunch of self sustaining(anarcho-capitolists) city-states in the bahamas or dubai? Hey we can even trade with US corporations and buy thier products.
Originally posted by tiger5
reply to post by Wally Hope
Bloody Ell! Someone on ATS that mentions Bakunin? I am so sad to inform you that I am very impressed. I was about to leave ATS as I donot care for people who do not know their leftists from their rightists. I agree with your critique of capital but having looked at communism (in depth i.e. carrying the card) I cannot support communism. The lobbyists in congress give me the creeps. And the working people get screwed every time be it capitalism or communism.
....The association of "socialism" or "communism" with these dictatorships has often made anarchists wary of calling themselves socialists or communists in case our ideas are associated with them. As Errico Malatesta argued in 1924:
"I foresee the possibility that the communist anarchists will gradually abandon the term 'communist': it is growing in ambivalence and falling into disrepute as a result of Russian 'communist' despotism. If the term is eventually abandoned this will be a repetition of what happened with the word 'socialist.' We who, in Italy at least, were the first champions of socialism and maintained and still maintain that we are the true socialists in the broad and human sense of the word, ended by abandoning the term to avoid confusion with the many and various authoritarian and bourgeois deviations of socialism. Thus too we may have to abandon the term 'communist' for fear that our ideal of free human solidarity will be confused with the avaricious despotism which has for some time triumphed in Russia and which one party, inspired by the Russian example, seeks to impose world-wide." [The Anarchist Revolution, p. 20]....
....due to the creation of the Libertarian Party in the USA, many people now consider the idea of "libertarian socialism" to be a contradiction in terms. Indeed, many "Libertarians" think anarchists are just attempting to associate the "anti-libertarian" ideas of "socialism" (as Libertarians conceive it) with Libertarian ideology in order to make those "socialist" ideas more "acceptable" -- in other words, trying to steal the "libertarian" label from its rightful possessors.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Anarchists have been using the term "libertarian" to describe themselves and their ideas since the 1850's. According to anarchist historian Max Nettlau, the revolutionary anarchist Joseph Dejacque published Le Libertaire, Journal du Mouvement Social in New York between 1858 and 1861 while the use of the term "libertarian communism" dates from November, 1880 when a French anarchist congress adopted it.
Originally posted by whatukno
So basically this guy is saying that his view on anarchy is that no one should have to work for anything, and basically they should be able to do whatever they want whenever they want with absolutely no repercussions if what they want is to murder a family.
I mean as long as the family has the means to defend themselves, they won't be hurt. But if not, the anarchist believes that killing that family is perfectly within their right and if he does so, nothing should be done to him.
Just like if there was a murderer in a village or town, and the townsfolk decide to go after the murderer themselves and they tear him apart. Maybe latter to find out the person they tore apart wasn't actually the guilty party.
No trials, no courts, no corrective measure, mob rule all the time.
Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by John_Rodger_Cornman
Thats not anarchy. Thats city-STATES governed by direct democracy. Anarchy means there is no state, no anthority, even democratic city-state is by definition forbidden.
edit on 12/1/11 by Maslo because: (no reason given)