Originally posted by andy1972
Originally posted by Metallicafan
9/11 was an inside job. This is old news.
Who's asking if it was an inside job or not ?
I asked why hasnt any footage of the passengers in the airports emerged yet.
If you didn't think it was (is) an inside job then, why are you questioning it?
I think you just barked at someone whose on the same side as you. But then again, what side are you on?
1) You believe
2) You don't believe
There's no in between
I think there are much better questions to ask concerning these passengers.
Although I snagged this off the Internet some time ago, I apparently didn't save the link. So I can't give credit to the rightful author or site
therefore I am not including external link:
As everyone who is involved in exposing the 9-11 cover-up knows, nothing concerning 9-11 is as it seems. Whether it's the magic jet that our
government told us crashed into the Pentagon, the obvious missing jet at Shanksville (Flight 93), the three perfect demolitions of the World Trade
Center towers, or the fact that Arab hijackers are still alive and their supposed ring leader Osama bin Laden has the ability to change his facial
features at will. Nothing, I repeat, nothing about the government/controlled media version of 9-11 makes any sense.
So, let's get one thing straight and out of the way right now. There are no such things as physical inconsistencies in the world we live in. We can
always depend on the laws of physics to be consistent and unchanging. Coincidence is a self-contained human concept; and the real world - the atoms,
molecules and planets that whiz around - don't care if you understand them. Likewise, they aren't concerned if their movement happens to favor you
or not. I say this because, as Victor Thorn and Lisa Guliani know (WING TV), this is the key to understanding what is real and what is contrived.
With that said, let me go back to sometime in February, 2004. At that time I had pretty much figured out that what had happened at the Pentagon and
the WTC was a lie. I was still toying with the idea, though, that maybe (just maybe) our government had shot down Flight 93 in Shanksville in order to
protect us from the real terrorists.
Then a few websites started to pop-up showing videos of what appeared to be a "pod" under Flight 175, along with an unexplained flash that happened
just before the jet hit the South Tower. To me, this was just as damning as the Pentagon and the WTC collapses. There is no good reason for us to be
seeing what we saw if the official government story was true. Think about this point for a minute. If what we saw was just an anomaly, then there must
be millions of photos/videos of 757s taking off and landing at airports all over the world that look JUST LIKE THAT! If anybody has any jet photo
anomalies they would like to share with us, please send them to Victor and Lisa at WING TV so we can clear this stuff up.
Which brings me to Ellen Mariani: she’s the woman who lost her husband Louis on Flight 175 that crashed into the South Tower on 9-11. With the help
of a lawyer named Phil Berg, she filed a lawsuit against President Bush and company under the RICO act. Also, she refused to take the hush money that
was offered to her under the 9-11 Victims Compensation fund.
In addition, I had just discovered Black Op Radio earlier in the year and found an interesting show in their archives (# 156) on which Ellen and Mr.
Berg appeared as guests. This may be the single biggest point concerning 9-11, and hopefully the last nail in the coffin of our government's lies.
During this broadcast, Mrs. Mariani said that she was the only relative of all the passengers that died on Flight 175 that crashed into the South
Tower. Her lawyer, Phil Berg, repeated this statement.
I listened to this show over and over again and couldn't believe what she had just said. Everything came together at this point. That’s when it
dawned on me that not only had our government lied about the physics of 9-11; they may very well have taken it one step farther by faking the number
of people that died that day. I believed what she and Mr. Berg had just said. Nothing about 9-11 made any sense. Why should it start now?
Not knowing then what I know now, Ellen and Phil believed that for some reason the government was holding back the names of the people that had died
on Flight 175. She had tried to get in touch with the relatives of other family members, but to no avail. You see, she and her lawyer believed, just
like most other people believe, that four jets had been hijacked by Arab terrorists and crashed into buildings and into the ground at Shanksville. I,
on the other hand, had already swept those lies aside.
Their statement also gave credence to the Fox News reporter who said that the jet which crashed into the South Tower had no windows. Hey, this jet
appeared to have a "pod" under it anyway. The pieces of the puzzle were starting to fit.
Now, we come to most interesting stuff - the Social Security Death Index, and thanks to Victor Thorn's idea, the September 11th Victim’s
Compensation Fund. After all, it's one thing to say that the flight lists are not on the up and up, but it's another thing to prove it.
The Social Security Death Index (SSDI) (Social Security Death Index) is a privately-owned website that is not affiliated with Social Security. It
boasts an accuracy rate of about 83% (e-mail them any questions you may have). Anyway, to check its reliability, I inputted the names of people I knew
that had died in my family, along with friends and neighbors. Being a true skeptic, I had no way of knowing whether they were telling the truth or
not. With the exception of a cousin, I found everyone I was looking for. (Be sure you have the person's true first name - they may not be listed by
the state they last lived in, but can be found in the state where their social security number was issued.) By all means try it yourself.
Which brings us to the 9-11 Victims Compensation Fund (also known as the Shut Up and Take the Money Fund), which most of you have heard about.
9-11 Victims Compensation Fund
This is where our government opened up the Treasury and gave family members of those who lost their lives that day lots of money. In return, these
families were basically told to shut up about anything else concerning 9-11. (Considering all the lies surrounding this horrific event, you can see
At this point there is one thing we should never forget, and that is how powerful the notion of human greed is. Remember this concept as you read the
number of victims whose family members sought compensation.
The names of the victims can be found on the CNN website.
Here are the results:
Flight 11: of the 92 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 20 are listed in the SSDI (22%)
Of these 20 people, only three are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:
Candace Lee Williams
Flight 77: of the 64 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 14 are listed in the SSDI (22%)
Of these 64 people, only five on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:
Flight 175: of the 65 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 18 are listed in the SSDI (28%)
Of these 65 people, only three are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:
Michael C. Tarrou
Flight 93: of the 45 people who are listed as dying on this flight, only 6 are listed in the SSDI (13%)
Of these 45 people, none are on the 9-11 Compensation Fund list:
Have you noticed anything strange yet? Of the passengers and crew of Flight 11, 77, 175 & 93, only 22%, 22%, 28%, 13% respectively are in the SSDI.
Remember human greed? Of the 266 people that we were told died on these jets, only 11 relatives applied for compensation. Can you believe that not a
single relative from Flight 93 applied for compensation? I can't. Were all the relatives of the victims so rich that they weren't eligible to
receive compensation? No, that's not it. (The minimum federal award was $250,000, and the average pay-out was about $1.8 million. The recipients only
had to make agreement: they couldn’t sue the airlines.)
You should also know that most lawyers told their clients to take the money and run (which is what most lawyers would do - take the sure money). Ellen
Mariani clearly elaborated on this point during her appearance on the radio show mentioned above.
Finally, during the past week, thanks to Lisa Guliani's insatiable quest for the truth, the 9-11 Victims Compensation Final Report has come to
9-11 Victims Compensation Final Report
Oddly, but consistent with everything concerning 9-11, the actual complete list of the people who benefited has been omitted from this report. Even
without this, it does contain an interesting fact. According to the report, 98% of all the people who suffered a loss on 9-11 took the fund money. The
average payment was $1.8 million.
But here's where it gets strange. According to the government, here are the number of people who accepted the compensation fund:
Out of a total of 92 people on Flight 11, only 65 accepted the 9-11 fund (71%)
Out of a total of 65 people on Flight 175, only 46 accepted the 9-11 fund (71%)
Out of a total of 64 people on Flight 77, only 33 accepted the 9-11 fund (52%)
Out of a total of 45 people on Flight 93, only 25 accepted the 9-11 fund (56%)
Does any of this seem a little odd to you? Or is it possible that not only were the jets on 9-11 magical, but their passengers as well?
So there you have it; yet another glaring 9-11 inconsistency - just maybe the biggest of them all?
9/11 Autopsy: No Arabs on Flight 77
by Dr. Thomas R. Olmsted
April 30, 2006
Scholars for 9/11 Truth website
I am an ex Naval line officer and a psychiatrist in private practice in New Orleans, a Christian and homeschool dad. It troubled me a great deal that
we rushed off to war on the flimsiest of evidence. I considered various ways to provide a smoking gun of who and why Sept 11th happened. Astute
observers noticed right away that there were no Arabic sounding names on any of the flight manifests of the planes that “crashed” on that day.
A list of names on a piece of paper is not evidence, but an autopsy by a pathologist, is. I undertook by FOIA request, to obtain that autopsy list and
you are invited to view it below. Guess what? Still no Arabs on the list. It is my opinion that the monsters who planned this crime made a mistake by
not including Arabic names on the original list to make the ruse seem more believable.
When airline disasters occur, airlines will routinely provide a manifest list for anxious families. You may have noticed that even before Sep 11th,
that airlines are pretty meticulous about getting an accurate headcount before takeoff. It seems very unlikely to me that five Arabs sneaked onto a
flight with weapons.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), does a miraculous job and identified nearly all the bodies on November
The AFIP suggest these numbers; 189 killed, 125 worked at the Pentagon and 64 were “passengers” on the plane. The AA list only had 56 and the list
just obtained has 58. They did not explain how they were able to tell “victims” bodies from “hijacker” bodies. In fact, from the beginning NO
explanation has been given for the extra five suggested in news reports except that the FBI showed us the pictures to make up the difference, and that
makes it so.
Now, being the trusting sort, I figured that the government would want to quickly dispel any rumors so we could get on with the chore of kicking
Osama/Saddam’s butt (weren’t these originally two different people?). It seemed simple to me... produce the names of all the bodies identified by
the AFIP and compare it with the publicized list of passengers. So, I sent a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the AFIP and asked for an
expedited response, because we were getting ready to send our boys to war on the pretext that Osama/Sadaam had done the deed. Fourteen months later, a
few US soldiers dead, many Iraqi civilians pushing up daisies, and I finally get the list. Believe me that they weren’t a bit happy to give it up,
and I really have no idea why they choose now to release it.
No Arabs wound up on the morgue slab; however, three ADDITIONAL people not listed by American Airline sneaked in. I have seen no explanation for these
extras. I did give American the opportunity to “revise” their original list, but they have not responded. The new names are: Robert Ploger, Zandra
Ploger, and Sandra Teague. The AFIP claims that the only “passenger” body that they were not able to identify is the toddler, Dana Falkenberg,
whose parents and young sister are on the list of those identified.
The satanic masterminds behind this caper may be feeling pretty smug about the perfect crime, but they have left a raft of clues tying these
unfortunates together. Stay tuned for part two to take a much closer look of the cast of characters on this ill-fated flight.