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Originally posted by felonius
I teach my kid the same thing but also let her know that the "warts" are from people that didn't / don't follow the constitution (and are not therefore entitled to the term "American").
If you take away the reasons to be a patriot, it makes the next generation easier to control.
My kid is in middle school and is already thinking politically.
If you start a tree to grow straight when its young, you'll not have to worry about it when its old.
Originally posted by JayTaylor
Wasn't the pledge of allegiance written by a flag manufacturer to increase sales? I know I've seen a read it a few places.
If that's the case, I certainly don't see what the big deal is, it almost sounds like progress to me.
Originally posted by Missing Blue Sky
Solution: Homeschool your children and teach them what you know and believe in and teach them history, how to research, how to read and how to think for themselves.
Originally posted by greywolfalyeska
You remember a while back when that judge was ordered to take the Ten Commandments out of his courtroom? Even though many of our original laws were based on these common-sense commandments. This world gets crazier every day.
Originally posted by Komodo
yea.. lets remove GOD from EVERYTHING.. yea.. but you all fail to remember, what Godless nations become..
destitude ~~~!! kinda like we are NOW ..
and it's not God's fault.. it ours..
Originally posted by Taliesien333
I'm not against the pledge of allegiance per se. But I do believe we should remove God from it. And we should remove it from the dollar bill as well.
Originally posted by stealthXninja
What I haven't seen however, is someone with this strong conviction refuse to spend or receive a dollar for the same reason... I understand that you're basically bound to the almighty dollar if you want to eat, etc., unless you have the means to supply your own food, but it was just an interesting thought I had picturing someone physically refusing to use currency and the trials that would await them. On another note I have never heard of an actual case of someone trying to get it removed from the dollar. Not to say there isn't one or several, I've just never heard of any, just people mentioning that it should be removed.
Originally posted by eNumbra
Keep parroting it, by all means. You can drop the word truth all you want as though I'm wrong but I'm not; nor have I suggested that Wiki is a primary resource. I'll repeat myself with a self-quote so you can understand that I did in fact say once before already:
You do realize that wiki articles have citations right? And you are smart enough to track those citations and check that they are in fact legit?
As explained in Shelley’s talk, each one of these forces was a key element in the creation of the Pledge. Below is a schematic of the historic background, followed by five timelines: Flag Patriotism and Changes in the Pledge, The Youth’s Companion (the magazine that created and sponsored the Pledge), James Upham (first promoter of the Pledge), Francis Bellamy (author of the Pledge), and Historical Background and Events,.
Both citations mention the magazine; you'd have known that had you read them rather than just scoff at Wikipedia, but I'm sure you'll just insist that you and people like you added that. Which in reality only adds to Wiki's credibility as a source, and deflates your argument.
But if you'd like to continue insulting me you're certainly free to do so.