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Man Cures Cancer with Apricot Seeds - FDA Arrests Man for Big Pharma

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posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 09:11 PM
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The problem is that there are stories of all of these things...but there's never any evidence. People say that the pharmaceutical companies do all these horrible (and counter-productive) things, but there's never any evidence. If any company had the universal cure for all cancer, they would snap it up, gain exclusive rights to it, and milk it while they could maintain a patent. They'd make billions upon billions. About 8% of the US population gets cancer. Imagine the profits on that. Instead of making one of many competing products to treat cancer, they'd have the single cure for cancer.

Hell, if you actually had the cure for cancer, there's nothing they could do to suppress it, because its effectiveness would be so easy to show.

I am happy that I've actually found a reasonable ear though. The thing is, it's sometimes easier to say you're being skeptical than to actually be skeptical. It's easy to think oil companies are preventing the use of water powered cars, but why aren't the water companies promoting it?

Each of these conspiracies has holes in it, some more gaping than others. Keep probing for them.




posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 05:19 AM
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I have been reading about this for a few years now and have tried to promote 'alternative' health to my family and have always been put down as a quack. alll the medicine we need is in the food (not the mcdonalds and burger kings lol). Pure clean fruit and veg. Why are so many people sick in developed countries? Its in the insecticides and pesticides chemicals they put on the farms. Do you ever hear of tribesmen in the jungle dying with cancer??? All the fda are worried about is the loss of money. Look at how much money pharma made during the swine flu hoax



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 07:21 AM
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no, they die before they could even get cancer :p

just kidding

But i want to know more, there seem to be a few more alternative so called cures... Would any of it be true?



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by zcflint05
Actually from what I've gathered he was sentenced to 5 years not because he "cured" his cancer with apricot seeds but rather because he claimed it to be a "miracle cure" and spam blasted millions of email boxes guaranteeing it would work. And I'm rather sure that if there was really a "cure" for cancer in apricots we would know this by now. One guy has went into remission based on what possibly could be a cure from apricots. But it could also be from a great cancer doc. Good treatments. Or other meds. And misleading cancer patients by telling them that an apricot is going to magically solve their problems is pretty bad in my book.


There you go. Finally some common sense brought to this thread. Yes I have heard these apricot seed fraud things being pushed for forty years now. I have never heard of anybody being cured of cancer from it. I seen people being given false hope from it when they could have been spending that time on more conventional treatments.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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OMG, if this guy is really severing 20 years for just claiming something i am speechless.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by Tropictul
OMG, if this guy is really severing 20 years for just claiming something

No, it's a lie in the OP.

He is doing 5 years for preying on desperate cancer victims by conducting huge email spam campaigns to sell his "miracle cure", which is in fact a toxin. He refused to stop selling it, and refused to pay the fines, so he got sent to jail. He's a scumbag.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 12:09 PM
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No good docs, most cancer survivors didn't have cancer? That's quite a large, and unsubstantiated, generalization. I for one know SEVERAL people who have had cancer, treated, and have a clean bill of health because of it.

This isn't to say run out and get chemo, chemo much like treatments for AIDS should be a last ditch effort as in most cases it doesn't help, it speeds up the decline and turns the patients last days into sheer torment. but to say anyone who survived was misdiagnosed and there are no good doctors is just ludicrous. I've seen some stunning things on these forums in the short time I've been here, but this takes the cake.Obviously there are natural treatments you can pursue, but ignoring known treatments is not the best way to go about it.

don't assume your doctor cares, and don't assume he's as smart as he should be, most doctors are pill pushers, but some actually do want to help and will if you let them.

You want a cure for cancer? Quit eating processed food. quit drinking fluoridated water. Cancer rates will drop drastically.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by OhZone
No such thing as a "great cancer doc". Those who are "cured" likely never had cancer to begin with. But they may never know and just think that the Slash, Burn and Poison routine cured them. Most such victims only live for about 2 more years, and those 2 years can be sheer torment. It has been shown that those who do not have surgery live longer. Consider that they do not have to do any recovering from the assaults upon their bodies by the MEdicos.


Nonsense. I have a great cancer doc, I was cured by radiation therapy and I have 3 years clean with no torment.
And I am not unusual.
Guess that makes you wrong



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 12:23 PM
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If any company had the universal cure for all cancer, they would snap it up, gain exclusive rights to it, and milk it while they could maintain a patent. They'd make billions upon billions. About 8% of the US population gets cancer. Imagine the profits on that. Instead of making one of many competing products to treat cancer, they'd have the single cure for cancer.

Yes and no, if they had the cure they obviously would patent it. But what makes them more money, cure or treatment? A cure is a one time thing. Treatment is ongoing.

If I was a big pharma scumbag, my interest is recorded in profits, not lives saved. Hell, i'd probably make it a point to get the FDA to approve known carcinogens just to up my profits more.
edit on 14-1-2011 by phishybongwaters because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by phishybongwaters
Yes and no, if they had the cure they obviously would patent it. But what makes them more money, cure or treatment? A cure is a one time thing. Treatment is ongoing.


A cure would be a unique product. All those undergoing cancer treatment would be going exclusively to the company that has the cure. It would be like how Pfizer struck gold with Viagra, nobody would have a competing product.



If I was a big pharma scumbag,


Logical fallacy: poisoning the well



my interest is recorded in profits, not lives saved.


And saved lives is actually a good thing for a drug company. You save a life with your product, maybe they'll ask for your other medications for future illness that isn't life threatening. Image is a key component in the success of a company. If your company has the cure for cancer, you're going to see a massive amount of free publicity, a massive increase in your company's public image, a massive increase in overall sales due to the proceeding two items in this list, and your company's researchers will get a Nobel prize, meaning that you'll have further free publicity when that roles around.

Bottom line, saving lives is good when that's the business you're in.




Hell, i'd probably make it a point to get the FDA to approve known carcinogens just to up my profits more.


Pure conjecture. Also, cancer is far from the cash cow of pharmaceutical companies, though I always see conspiracy theorists act as if it is their big earner.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 07:58 PM
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Cancer IS NOT a disease. Cancer is the eventual result of a relatively large number of disorders, diseases, and misuse of the body.

Anyone who attempts to "cure" cancer directly, without addressing the underlying cause of the disease is wasting their time, just as surely as a person who tried to "cure" chronic bleeding with cotton balls.

Investigate the underlying cause and take proactive steps to bolster the overall health and immune system in the process.



posted on Jan, 14 2011 @ 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by zupreme
Investigate the underlying cause and take proactive steps to bolster the overall health and immune system in the process.

Yah? So what you gonna do about the tumours in the interim?



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by zupreme
Investigate the underlying cause and take proactive steps to bolster the overall health and immune system in the process.

Yah? So what you gonna do about the tumours in the interim?


Pop pills. What else..lol (sorry pal. Couldn't resist).



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 08:58 PM
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He was also arrested for spamming people. Not many people seem to know this fact. It was not just big pharma against the naturalist. And this man is more of a capitalist anyhow.



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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I'm sorry you are wrong. The reason being is that they cannot patent something that they haven't developed, and to develop it, it takes an awful lot of money so only worth it if you can hold the exclusive patent. For example Metformin (it's in my signature) is a medicine that has proved to help prevent cancer (in diabetics) and when somebody already has Cancer, stop the spread and maybe even cure.

Unfortunately, this is something that has only recently been discovered and this 50 year old drug has been out of patent protection for 8 years or more. It costs $5 here in Europe. There are a few companies already manufacturing and selling it as a drug for Type 2 Diabetics, and other ailments, but no money is being poured into researching the anti cancerous properties because no one can hold that patent exclusively, so there is no point in investing. That is now left to Cancer Institutes. It's a sad state of affairs but reality I'm afraid. If you don't believe me, please read up on it.



posted on Jan, 15 2011 @ 09:57 PM
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If I were a cancer researcher and a cure was proven effective, and from a drug that was already out of its patent, would I still have a job tomorrow? If I were that researcher then I don't think I would want that even tested.

And as far as alternative therapy, who owns my body? Do I not get any say in the matter?



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 05:48 AM
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Well I think researchers might, because they would be interested to be the one that found the cancer cure ~as an individual. The Pharmaceutical Companies that can't hold that patent exclusively? Absolutely not.



posted on Jan, 16 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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...they cannot patent something that they haven't developed, and to develop it, it takes an awful lot of money so only worth it if you can hold the exclusive patent. For example Metformin (it's in my signature) is a medicine that has proved to help prevent cancer (in diabetics) and when somebody already has Cancer, stop the spread and maybe even cure.

Unfortunately, this is something that has only recently been discovered and this 50 year old drug has been out of patent protection for 8 years or more. It costs $5 here in Europe.


Nice to see some common sense injected back into the discussion, it was starting to go off the rails.

Excellent info on Metformin...I hadn't read that before.

JR



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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Yeh i couldn't agree more..but would like to add that,most of the food today dosn't contain the 72 natural elements found in seawater,Just the lack of iodine causes Goitre.Now we are finding that you need a bit of all these elements to be healthy.We are not getting them.I suggest the adding of sea salt,and eating a bit of Tuna or Salmon,in the diet would work wonders for a natural health regime.



posted on Jan, 17 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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I had a bout with Prostrate cancer..I had the "Rebore" done..I stopped drinkin and eating Dairy.After I heard a radio interview with a female doctor that said when she was diagnosed with terminal breast cancer..She remembered that during a stint in China it was called the "Rich womans disease"..Ie.only rich could afford dairy at that time in China.So she said she stopped all Dairy and it all went away..like the Interview was done five years after her diagnosis.As the Graph increase in Prostate, mirrors Breast cancer.I got suspicious,of dairy and swopped to soya milk. I,ve had no problems in the last nine years since the "OP".But to be on the safe side,I now keep up a regime with Garlic four cloves,done in the Wok an egg a day.And now and then a blast of Cayenne.(It kills human prostate cancer cells in rats)..and does wonders for the circulation.



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