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China warns Condi Rice

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posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by zcheng
At a later time, when you poll the 1.3 Billion Chinese, you will know that is not because of propaganda, but true voice from their heart.


A voice from thier heart?
are you kidding me, is there a guy from the Prpaganda department with a gun to your head. The people of China do what they are told by thier government. If they don't they go off to "reeducation" camps were they make Nike's. Like I said the last time there was any independant thought, the tanks rolled in and killed people.




posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 08:36 AM
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"voice from thier heart? are you kidding me"

That is exactly why I ask you to poll Chinese in US first. If you want, you can poll those that has bought house and decided to stay in US. If you can not trust what you polled by yourself, I have nothing more to say.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 10:03 AM
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taiwan should be part of china, not part of communist china.
i agree that 1.3billion people want taiwan back.but, i dont hope chicom be the head of china.
western people cant understand why china has labor camp, cause chinese people still have caste. Dont tell me how beautiful china is, i've lived china for 25yrs, i love this country. the disgusted things r government. dont be naive, like some jerk said, only communist can lead china. even people said democracy can only change china to indian.we dont even have chance to try. i'll tell ya what i've learned in US.people have the power, they dont like bush, so u could find millions people protest, in the street, u could find post like impeach bush. even there is a movie named fahrenheit 911



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 01:08 PM
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" i'll tell ya what i've learned in US.people have the power, they dont like bush, so u could find millions people protest, in the street, u could find post like impeach bush. even there is a movie named fahrenheit 911"

You seems to enjoy the freedom in US. Tell me why "fahrenheit 911" was not shown in regular theater? I tried to see it on the first night, but its long sold out in a small and unknown theater in our area.

I agree that US government are more clever in terms of censorship. Democrazy does not mean that the goverment will represent the interest of most people. Too many example of democrazy, yet failed economy. There is no correlation between democrazy and development. If China followed Soviet Union, China would now be no better than Rassia, maybe there would now be about 7 mini-China states.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by zcheng
You seems to enjoy the freedom in US. Tell me why "fahrenheit 911" was not shown in regular theater? I tried to see it on the first night, but its long sold out in a small and unknown theater in our area.

For starters you should get your fact straight. A search of my local theatres showed it being played at 9 theatres on multiple screens and at multiple times. You can see it for yourself at
movies.yahoo.com...

As for the US being clever with its propaganda, we have the benifit of a free press to also watch and listen in on. Were do you get your information? From the state owned media service? Even the "commercial" stations are governed. Im surprised China even allows the Internet into the country. No doubt the loyalty pledge that they are requiring thier ISP's to live up to will be enforced with a gun in thier backs.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 03:32 PM
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You sure think it is convenient in you area. Are you?

Look at my area:
movies.yahoo.com...

The regular movies are shown at
www.triangle.com...

Raleigh
? Brier Creek
? Carmike
? Colony
? Grande
? IMAX Theatre at Exploris
? Mission Valley
? Raleighwood
? Rialto
? Six Forks
Riato is the one that few people know about.

I have cable news of CNN, MSNBC, Fox News etc. But I find they are not informative at all. I get my news and information from around the world.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 06:19 PM
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I used live in Boston, the first day i saw that movie at Loews.
Since u r in US, dont u wanna bring some idea back to China? Unless u r a official's child?
Boy, we all grew up there, nobody hate his mother, the issue is, why let a party rule us? They try to make u believe that communist is not the best, either dose USA. they try to say, see, there is no real freedom and democracy in US, ok, why they do this? They wanna rule us for another 100 yrs.
I dont believe communism, i only trust human nature.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 07:27 PM
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"I dont believe communism, i only trust human nature. "

I do not either. I support a government that will represent the interest of most Chinese. Although CCP made huge mistakes, we should give her credit for freeing China from West and Japan pillaging. CCP is now leading China to be strong, proud, and peaceful. China do not want war, but China will not be intimidated when concerning the vital interest of Taiwan.

For my future, I will return to China in a few years. I do hope I can bring some contribution back to China. Ridiculously, I am interested in anyway of cheap energy, which I think is a great obstacle for development.

I will return to China immediately if war break out because of Taiwan or against Japan and US.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 08:01 PM
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If Texas wanted to leave the united states? Absolutely! It is in thier right and no one would have the right to stop them. If the majority of Texans wanted to leave, then they should leave the Union. If the federal govornment tried to stop them, then they would be wrong in doing so. They would be evil agressors.

Just like Taiwan. The Taiwanese dont want to be part of China. perhaps its because of the Chinese communist govornment. Maybe if the Chinese got rid of the communist govornment and got one in that wasnt as brutal, the Taiwanese would be more accepting of reunification with China. But right now, the Taiwanese dont want anything to do with it, they want to be independant. So they should stay independant. And if China tries to force them in, then china will become the evil agressor.

From what I have gathered from Most Chinese folks here in America is that they agree that Taiwan should stay seperate from the mainland. Most of these people fled China because of communism.

By the way, i wasnt aware of any censorship with farenheit 9/11. It plays at theaters all over the place here. However, remeber this is a free country. This means theater owners have the right to play whatever movies they want, and not show movies they do not want to see. They arent forced by the govornment or others to show movies. They have a choice too.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 08:02 PM
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China warns Rice..
Hmm I came here because I thought a Whole country was
upset at it's most popular food item..

BUT..This is something altogether different.

I've always wondered why Mainland China, has let it go on for this long.
Who are the Commies Appeasing, by Leaving "Formosa" alone for all these years?

I think it may be money, (what a surprise eh?).

By NOT attacking, and taking back this Island, They seem like, I dunno.
A friendly Communist regime. (oxymoron, right?).

The US gives them Favored nation status..WE continue to trade with them.
We allow them to SWAMP our markets with mechandise. And we Buy it..a lot of it.
All this money we spend on Chinese imports, where is it going? What is it funding?
It looks to me that there is a LONG term plan in the works, I'm just not sure what it is...
Anyone else know?



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 09:50 PM
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"The US gives them Favored nation status..WE continue to trade with them.
We allow them to SWAMP our markets with mechandise. And we Buy it..a lot of it. "

It means that the trade relationship between US and China is beneficial to both.



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 09:53 PM
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"If Texas wanted to leave the united states? Absolutely! It is in thier right and no one would have the right to stop them. If the majority of Texans wanted to leave, then they should leave the Union. If the federal govornment tried to stop them, then they would be wrong in doing so. They would be evil agressors. "

Why Lincoln is considered the greatest president of US? Are you thinking Lincoln was the Evil aggressor?



posted on Jul, 9 2004 @ 09:56 PM
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I wasnt aware Lincoln was considered the greatest US president. He actually set a dangerous precident.

The souht wanted to leave the Union not because of slavery, but because of the rights of the state over the federal govornment were being threatened. They no longer wanted to be part of the Union, and should have been let to do so, instead of being forced.



posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by zcheng
"The US gives them Favored nation status..WE continue to trade with them. "

It means that the trade relationship between US and China is beneficial to both.


Yes, it's True, it IS beneficial to both. But why should a communist country benefit from capitalism?
Is communism failing in China as well? I believe it is.
Maybe they learned something from the failed USSR..Move away from Communism at a slower pace. Prepare the system before realeasing on the public. But also before the current system collapses.

Instead of the rapid progression, in Russia.
Which left no real economic infrastructure to start. It's almost like the Government said, "OK PEOPLE YOU"RE CAPITALISTS NOW, CARRY ON"



posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 08:22 AM
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"Yes, it's True, it IS beneficial to both. But why should a communist country benefit from capitalism?
Is communism failing in China as well? I believe it is. "

You seems to still ive in the 1980's. Do you know even in Russia there is still a powerful communist party.

China was socialism. Now has gradually changed into some blend of socialism and capitalism.



posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by zcheng
China was socialism. Now has gradually changed into some blend of socialism and capitalism.


Semantics, your governemt is run by a corrupt party with little or no regard for the lives of the people they are supposed to serve. But I forgot, you are simply regurgitating slogans the Propaganda department has told you to. Do you realize that an all three threads you are posting on, your basically repeat the same arguments and rationals. You may want to put down the manual you are reading from and try some free thought.



posted on Jul, 10 2004 @ 11:04 AM
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Remove hot China plate from oven, make sure you use a pot holder. Put several spoons full of pre-cooked rice on plate and spread it out evenly. Viola, the china warms rice.

Oops my glasses were off, my bad



posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 04:34 AM
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Originally posted by zcheng
You seems to still ive in the 1980's. Do you know even in Russia there is still a powerful communist party.

China was socialism. Now has gradually changed into some blend of socialism and capitalism.


Well, I thank you for agreeing.
Russia has a powerful communist party, because of what I said about the
"abruptness" of the change. They just expected a new form of democratic government to appear out of thin air..There are still "hangers on" from the previous Ideologies.

And China, a gradual blend of Socialism and capitalism, a slow progression from one to the other.. And if the common people of China have it their way, the blend will change, less socialism, more captialism..

So you see, I am not living in the 80's. Although I drove a MUCH cooler car back then.



posted on Jul, 11 2004 @ 04:47 AM
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Originally posted by zcheng
China was socialism. Now has gradually changed into some blend of socialism and capitalism.


You had better let the CIA know, they still list you as a communist state
www.cia.gov...



posted on Jul, 14 2004 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by FredT
Semantics, your governemt is run by a corrupt party with little or no regard for the lives of the people they are supposed to serve. But I forgot, you are simply regurgitating slogans the Propaganda department has told you to. Do you realize that an all three threads you are posting on, your basically repeat the same arguments and rationals. You may want to put down the manual you are reading from and try some free thought.


I wish all corrupt official be hanged in China. On the other hand, most these officials will be like angel when compared to those Executive like Enron.

It is the US that disregard those lives of the armed force to fight a war of Choice, and war of aggression. In this aspect, I am particularly thank for for our Chinese government.

If you are so supportful for the war of Iraq, why not join the army in Iraq and make profit for Hurliburton?



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