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^----What you said.
I believe hispanics are a infestation to america and our economy.
I sya get rid of the il;legals regardless of where they came from, open up the job industry to the legal citizens. Green card is legal they are included of course. I am in no means anti hispanic, I am pro american, and stand in line and become legal. Im tired of beign legal and beign pushed to the back of the line.
Originally posted by Hefficide
reply to post by Logarock
Originally posted by Logarock
No this will simply mean that if the parents of a child are not citizens then their child born in this country wont be ither. And only a dammed fool cant see the wisdom of this under the current set up.
Just cut all of those benifits and see how fast they leave the land of liberty! Make them pay taxes and see how fast they bail. Make them act like a citizen and they are out of here for the most part.
Actually this presents a huge conundrum regarding our current financial woes because, whether some folks want to admit it or not, illegals do generate tax revenue. Not only do they pay sales and ad velorum taxes but many, as a side effect of working under aliases and assumed identity, actually pay into the tax and Social Security system - money that they will never claim back.
While I do not support illegal entry into this country, to infer that they somehow live here without contributing anything is just racist propaganda and such flights of logic don't do anything towards solving the problem.
Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by prexparte
Really? Did you bother to read your own words before hitting the post button?edit on 8-1-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Logarock
Well I am going to have to take offence to being called a racist here and certainly from someone that considers the illegal use of a SSN as a windfall for the owner and system as well as an injustice to the illegal paying in.
Closer to the truth is that these people help to fuel identity theft and many make up in what they "pay" in by taking advantage of "free" services payed for in taxes by self or by the employer of the same guy whos SSN they ripped off.
Originally posted by TimBrummer
Originally posted by aptness
First, the child has no choice where he’s born, nor does he have any influence over the illegal status of his parents. So why should the child be punished by not having US citizenship,
How is being born a Mexican or Polish or Packistani citizen "punishment"?
So why should the child be punished by not having US citizenship, especially in light of the existing jus soli standard?
The illegal aliens who are plaintiffs in these cases challenging the statute may claim the benefit of the Equal Protection Clause, which provides that no State shall "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Whatever his status under the immigration laws, an alien is a "person" in any ordinary sense of that term. This Court's prior cases recognizing that illegal aliens are "persons" protected by the Due Process Clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, which Clauses do not include the phrase "within its jurisdiction," cannot be distinguished on the asserted ground that persons who have entered the country illegally are not "within the jurisdiction" of a State even if they are present within its boundaries and subject to its laws. Nor do the logic and history of the Fourteenth Amendment support such a construction. Instead, use of the phrase "within its jurisdiction" confirms the understanding that the Fourteenth Amendment's protection extends to anyone, citizen or stranger, who is subject to the laws of a State, and reaches into every corner of a State's territory.
Originally posted by Darkrunner
I have no problem with this bill whatsoever.