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Personal UFO Photos Never Shown Online - [HOAX]

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posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:37 PM
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Tvision

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posted on 6-1-2011 @ 05:13 PM this post

Great, thanks for the help guys. I'll find something good for the first thread. I've been seeing less and less ufo/alien threads and hope to inspire others to bring in there best stuff.

Bombs away



Gee, I wonder what this guy will do next boys and girls?????

You can't make this stuff up, folks...

Well, actually you can!




posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:38 PM
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I think tvision is being truthful because he mentioned that the craft was following a river, and I subscribe to Wilhelm Reich's belief that ufos are removing orgone from earth's waters (which, as you can imagine, is not exactly a common belief). Rivers are said to be particularly rich in orgone.



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:38 PM
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First Image from SD card:




posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:42 PM
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Can you tell us how, step by step, you are uploading this image? Because it still shows it went thru Photoshop.


XMP — this group of metadata is encoded in 4,218 bytes (4.1k)

Already Applied True
Color Mode RGB
Create Date 2010:05:30 17:57:18-04:00
7 months, 7 days, 6 hours, 43 minutes, 55 seconds ago
Date Created 2010:07:03 17:57:18
6 months, 3 days, 3 hours, 43 minutes, 55 seconds ago
Document Ancestors adobe:docid:photoshop:cea7ce61-c41c-11db-b625-debb853a0f7b
Document ID xmp.did:FE24B9E90D1AE011B1E9818D824B60DD
Format image/jpeg
History Action saved, saved, saved, saved
History Changed /, /, /, /
History Instance ID xmp.iid:FE24B9E90D1AE011B1E9818D824B60DD, xmp.iid:FF24B9E90D1AE011B1E9818D824B60DD, xmp.iid:AC690792141AE011B1E9818D824B60DD, xmp.iid:EC994204201AE0119435EB56BDED76BB
History Software Agent Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows
History When 2011:01:06 22:26:27-05:00, 2011:01:06 22:26:27-05:00, 2011:01:06 23:14:07-05:00, 2011:01:07 00:36:03-05:00

ICC Profile Name sRGB IEC61966-2.1
Instance ID xmp.iid:EC994204201AE0119435EB56BDED76BB
Legacy IPTC Digest 188A5AF50C65F8025BB654CE97BBD1E3
Metadata Date 2011:01:07 00:36:03-05:00
5 minutes, 10 seconds ago
Modify Date 2011:01:07 00:36:03-05:00
5 minutes, 10 seconds ago
Original Document ID xmp.did:FE24B9E90D1AE011B1E9818D824B60DD
XMP (4,218 bytes binary data)
XMP Toolkit Adobe XMP Core 5.0-c060 61.134777, 2010/02/12-17

edit on January 6th 2011 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:44 PM
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I'll give the Op credit, at least he's trying....



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:44 PM
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Now this is where I get lost.

Am I to understand that the "original" has been tampered with?

On my side, the exif data is indeed checking out to a Kodak camera.

Is there a way to fake exif data??



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:45 PM
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Second Image:




posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:46 PM
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I have ZERO clue what "exif" data is, nor would I know where to start. I don't know what data is showing, but these ARE right from my SD to my desktop to imageshack. Thats it people, I dont know what else to do!



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:47 PM
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Document Ancestors adobe:docid:photoshop:cea7ce61-c41c-11db-b625-debb853a0f7b Document ID xmp.did:FE24B9E90D1AE011B1E9818D824B60DD Format image/jpeg History Action saved, saved, saved, saved History Changed /, /, /, / History Instance ID xmp.iid:FE24B9E90D1AE011B1E9818D824B60DD, xmp.iid:FF24B9E90D1AE011B1E9818D824B60DD, xmp.iid:AC690792141AE011B1E9818D824B60DD, xmp.iid:EC994204201AE0119435EB56BDED76BB History Software Agent Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows History When 2011:01:06 22:26:27-05:00, 2011:01:06 22:26:27-05:00, 2011:01:06 23:14:07-05:00, 2011:01:07 00:36:03-05:00



Notice photoshop and history...........case closed



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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both are from 'straight from the sd card' and both have gone through CS5. Holy hell I gotta get me a camera too that has build in CS5!!!



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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I don't know how to interpret that data.

With that said I will follow with there being about four different image saves?

I still personally expect it to be a water droplet/contamination on the lens.

I have roughly the same camera...



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:49 PM
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Well, I have checked from an online Exif program and I see nothing about photoshop, just Kodak.



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:50 PM
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History Software Agent Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows
History When 2011:01:06 22:26:27-05:00, 2011:01:06 22:26:27-05:00, 2011:01:06 23:14:07-05:00, 2011:01:07 00:36:03-05:00


It means, that yesterday and today the image was opened up and edited in Photoshop.
EXIF data is like DNA for photos. It tells you all the info about a photo - when it was taken, what type of camera, the settings on a camera and if it has been edited in an editing software.



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:51 PM
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The dates have changed from May to July?
My post on page 3 says original may 30
This exif says original july 3

Anyone know why?



ETA: Nevermind. I know why.
edit on 7-1-2011 by Klassified because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by impaired
reply to post by greeneyedleo
 


Now this is where I get lost.

Am I to understand that the "original" has been tampered with?

On my side, the exif data is indeed checking out to a Kodak camera.

Is there a way to fake exif data??


Will you post your results here?

ETA: Nevermind you did below

edit on January 6th 2011 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:51 PM
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Hehe, here. Let me help you out:

Upload your photo to this site:

regex.info...


Here's the full data:

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Already Applied True
Color Mode RGB
Create Date 2010:05:30 17:57:03-04:00
7 months, 7 days, 6 hours, 51 minutes, 34 seconds ago
Creator Tool Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows
Date Created 2010:05:30 17:57:03
7 months, 7 days, 3 hours, 51 minutes, 34 seconds ago
Document Ancestors adobe:docid:photoshop:cea7ce61-c41c-11db-b625-debb853a0f7b
Document ID xmp.did:0625B9E90D1AE011B1E9818D824B60DD
Format image/jpeg
History Action saved, saved, saved, saved, saved, saved
History Changed /, /, /, /, /, /
History Instance ID xmp.iid:0625B9E90D1AE011B1E9818D824B60DD, xmp.iid:0725B9E90D1AE011B1E9818D824B60DD, xmp.iid:AD690792141AE011B1E9818D824B60DD, xmp.iid:AE690792141AE011B1E9818D824B60DD, xmp.iid:ED994204201AE0119435EB56BDED76BB, xmp.iid:EE994204201AE0119435EB56BDED76BB
History Software Agent Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows, Adobe Photoshop CS5 Windows
History When 2011:01:06 22:43:59-05:00, 2011:01:06 22:43:59-05:00, 2011:01:06 23:16:31-05:00, 2011:01:06 23:16:31-05:00, 2011:01:07 00:42:03-05:00, 2011:01:07 00:42:03-05:00
ICC Profile Name sRGB IEC61966-2.1
Instance ID xmp.iid:EE994204201AE0119435EB56BDED76BB
Legacy IPTC Digest C8C4582B21539D818E34392C8AE3795B
Metadata Date 2011:01:07 00:42:03-05:00
6 minutes, 34 seconds ago
Modify Date 2011:01:07 00:42:03-05:00
6 minutes, 34 seconds ago
Original Document ID xmp.did:0625B9E90D1AE011B1E9818D824B60DD
XMP (4,660 bytes binary data)
XMP Toolkit Adobe XMP Core 5.0-c060 61.134777, 2010/02/12-17:32:00

EXIF — this group of metadata is encoded in 3,940 bytes (3.8k)
Aperture Value 2.8
Bits Per Sample 8 8 8
Color Space sRGB
Components Configuration Y, Cb, Cr, -
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Create Date 2010:07:03 17:57:03
6 months, 3 days, 3 hours, 51 minutes, 34 seconds ago
Custom Rendered Normal
Date/Time Original 2010:07:03 17:57:03
6 months, 3 days, 3 hours, 51 minutes, 34 seconds ago
Digital Zoom Ratio 1
Exif Image Size 1,440 × 810
Exif Version 0220
Exposure Compensation 0
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Exposure Time 1/1198
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Flash No flash function
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Metering Mode Center-weighted average
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Modify Date 0000:00:00 00:00:00
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IPTC
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Damn dude... Why???

Greeneyedleo - it's in there somewhere. I guess it's just picking up the original camera. Everything else screams CS5.


Damn...
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posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:53 PM
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posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:54 PM
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The date the photos were taken was July 3rd 2010.



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by Tvision
I have ZERO clue what "exif" data is, nor would I know where to start. I don't know what data is showing, but these ARE right from my SD to my desktop to imageshack. Thats it people, I dont know what else to do!


If you knew what EXIF data was, you wouldn't be in this crapstorm now. At least you learned something.

Can you understand WHY we're all angry here?

So you put the tampered image BACK onto the digital camera and thought that re-uploading it would kill the exif data history?

edit on 1/6/2011 by impaired because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 11:55 PM
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Thanks.

Did you happen to see my edited post on page 4? It's a teaser of a sunset.

Is photoshop an aftermarket program? I can't seem to locate it on my version of windows 7.



edit on (1/7/1111 by loveguy because: 1 slow typist/navigator




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