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How desperate do you want to astral project?

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posted on Jul, 8 2004 @ 11:02 AM
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This is my surefire method when all else fails. Stay away from the computer & tv & other similar types of devices for a week.

That's what I just did & voila, I got a very nice one with reasonable control last night. I didn't need to follow any complicated method or use any 'props'. Simply focused on mind awake & body asleep mode & away I went. Woohoo!




posted on Jul, 8 2004 @ 11:43 PM
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U are on the right track. It really helps if you shut down all souces of electromagnetic radiation-tv, computer, lights and be in complete darkness. It also helps to be somewhere where u are verycomfortable-couch that u watch tv on...
Another big faqctor is your emotional state. If you are very happy, sad, angry... it helps to direct your thoughts.
hope this helps



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 01:58 AM
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Hi, I am very interested in this but I'mjust wondering what exactly is it that you do when you AP? Do you fly around I'm just not sure of what it actually entails.



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 09:44 AM
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I would say it helps to do this but because of em radiation, but because of attachment.



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 10:02 AM
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Personally, if I were to ever AP I would go somewhere that I normally can't go. And I would attempt to remember bits of information that would verify my claim of traveling there.



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 10:12 AM
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Astral projection is like driving a car.
Just because you are able to open the door and sit inside a car, doesnt mean you can drive it.
And even when you learn how to, you still cant just go drive on a freeway, without practicing on normal streets first.



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 10:14 AM
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sen5e
Stay away from the computer & tv & other similar types of devices for a week.

I am desperate (for some reason), but being away from computers for a week would 0wn me.

Why is it, do you think, that staying away from such devices had the effect? Hath it to do with the radiation? Possibly it is because one's eyes become so affixed to focusing in close distances (that is, staring at television / computer secreens), that it is harder to project. You eliminated that factor.
(From what I have read ones eye's are a key area in leaving one's body.)

Or it could be the mood that such devices impose on you. When in a week of not using computers, you become relaxed.

...?

[edit on 14-7-2004 by Jake_]



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 10:23 AM
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That's a wrong way of saying it... If you are desperate to AP, you will never AP. Period. When being desperate you're focusing on the lack of having AP's, so according to the Law of attraction you will get more lack (of having an AP). One way at going at it, is knowing that you AP everytime you sleep. It's something natural already. The only difference is that you are not conscious of it, and/or don't remember it.

Furthermore, learning to control your AP experience is like learning to ride a bike. Your subconscious mind is a stronger creative force than your conscious mind is. In fact, it's much much stronger. And if you don't look out, it will trick you into becoming unconscious and turn your AP into a dream. This has happened to me before. I was in my room, about 9-12ft away from my bed, and was looking at myself sleeping under the covers. Then I noticed black symbols everywhere on the wall. I kept looking at it, and then when I looked to my left, there was a opening to a corridor (that isn't there on the physical level). I floated through it and lost my consciousness. The AP became a regular dream.

The subconscious mind does this kind of stuf all the time. It will put a door that isn't supposed to be there, or a window... Aything like that. Your conscious mind will become confused as to why that door or window is there, and if you go through it, whatever is behind it is a creation of the subcionscious also in the same way that dreams are creations of the subconsious (except for most luciddreams of course). And you'll find your self in a dream world, instead of the etheric (Real-Time zone) world or the Astral world.

One way to counter this, is by charging yourself (your astral body) with energy from your physical body (via the silver cord). But I never remember to do that when I'm out.



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by paperclip
Astral projection is like driving a car.
Just because you are able to open the door and sit inside a car, doesnt mean you can drive it.
And even when you learn how to, you still cant just go drive on a freeway, without practicing on normal streets first.



please explain and expend on what you mean ?



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by TheBandit795

One way to counter this, is by charging yourself (your astral body) with energy from your physical body (via the silver cord). But I never remember to do that when I'm out.


wow what would this entail?... iv'e never heard of charging yourself, I would love to know how



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by acidhead


please explain and expend on what you mean ?


What I mean is that you have to train it. The first time you realise you are out of your body and you can travel anywhere you want, you are most likely to just return back to your body. These things take time and training.
You have to learn to focus, learn not to be afraid and that is very difficult. The slightest hint of fear and you are back in your body.

A quite succesful method is to become concious in a dream. That way you are already out of your body, you just have to focus on staying out.
To achieve that you have to focus on real world first. What ever you see, where ever you go during the day, observe it, be aware of how it really is, train your mind to do these things. Soon, you will start doing them in your dreams. Now, dreams are often confusing, buildings are there that are not supposed to be or something like that. A trained mind with notice this and realise it is a dream.



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 01:31 PM
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Just as simple as thinking. Just will the energy to come to you via the silver cord when you are AP-ing. Energy follows thought much easier and faster in those worlds. My only problem is that I never remember to do it.



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 03:59 PM
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This will help too:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


And yeah sen5e; staying away from large amounts of radiation would help, but also stay away from negative foods(processed foods, pork, artificial flavors, etc.) and thoughts(Lust, Hate, Jealousy, Envy...).

TheBandit is correct too; being desperate won't help either!




Peace



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 11:06 PM
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I think it's because computers and TV put so many images in your head that it is hard to NOT think of something.

I AP'ed once... on accident. I was crashed on the couch upstairs and all of a sudden my body started 'buzzing' (not unfamiliar to me... I buzz alot when I am alone and relaxed and no noises). Anyways, I noticed it was darker than before (light through the eyelids) so I sat up and looked around and realized I was in my roomate's room directly downstairs. I thought I had sleepwalked, so I went back up to the couch only to see myself laying there asleep! That was the point where I got pulled back to my body. From what I've read, most people will pull back once they AP for the first time, just as (bandit's analogy) a person falls over on a bike the first time they actually get their feet off the ground and start to pedal. I haven't really had any reason to AP, so I haven't really tried that much. I thought about visiting my friend in D.C., but I can't seem to get a fix on him, so I really don't want to AP to him. Someday I probably will, though



posted on Jul, 14 2004 @ 01:33 AM
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What I mean is when you AP like you said you wanted to visit your friend can you visit with the physical world? are you like a ghost are an observer do you fly do you walk? It's all very interesting to me if people could fill in more that'd be great



posted on Jul, 14 2004 @ 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by TheBandit795
Just as simple as thinking. Just will the energy to come to you via the silver cord when you are AP-ing. Energy follows thought much easier and faster in those worlds. My only problem is that I never remember to do it.


If that's what works for you, I suggest doing some self-hypnosis beforehand so you will remember.


Everyone is different. The more I desire to project, the more successful I am. For others I guess it's different.



posted on Jul, 14 2004 @ 07:40 AM
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Well, I am a computer specialist and getting away for one week from a computer is basically impossible. I practice OBEs about 4 or 5 days a week for the past three years. have gotten the vibrations once about a year ago. I finally thought that it was going to happen, but I kept focusing on it and actually got away from the practce, then it stopped. But, since that time, I have gotten nothing. I am Jealous that you all can do it....



posted on Jul, 14 2004 @ 07:43 AM
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maybe you could start a concintract class for stressted out people



posted on Jul, 14 2004 @ 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by sen5e
Everyone is different. The more I desire to project, the more successful I am. For others I guess it's different.


That's true... But desire and desperation are to totally different things.



posted on Jul, 16 2004 @ 06:48 AM
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A very good friend of mine wanted to AP but is too lazy or unmotivated to practice techniques so we arranged to have me help pull their astral self out. All they needed to do was remember not to resist when I come around for them. I specifically asked them to remind themselves during the day because when the time comes, they could easily forget & resist. And I said I would only do this once for them. If they resisted when the time came, it would be their fault & their loss. Well when the time came, it did work! Unfortunately they didn't remember the incident. Heh. Hopefully this will teach them a lesson about taking shortcuts.




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