Originally posted by smokenmirrors
Hey wait a minute, I am a conservative, but as I posted earlier, and it was not even challenged in this thread, whether you are pro or anti abortion
makes no difference relative to the fact that abortions are going to occur, period. It does not matter if abortion is legal/illegal, moral/immoral,
right/wrong, either way, they will occur.
So the question is, do you want the abortion to occur in the back alleys of the world, in abandoned buildings, the back of vans in parking lots, or in
open fields, with hooks and hangers??? OR do you want the abortion to occur within the confines of a medical facility prepared to do such an
Answer THAT question!
Smokenmirrors - lets extend your argument to its logical conclusion shall we? It makes no sense to outlaw something which will happen anyway, so it
might as well be legal. Murder is illegal but it happens anyway so murder should be legal. Rape is illegal but it happens anyway so rape should be
legal. Heroin use is illegal but people use heroin anyway, and by not having access to clean needles addicts put thier lives in danger, so heron
should not only be legal, but state sponsored. Flying an airliner into a building is illegal, but since that happened it should be legal, and since
the terrorists who flew the planes into the WTC died in the process we should equip all airliners with remote controls and mail them all to OBL.
Do you see the fallacy in your argument now? The fact that people will break a given law is no reason not to pass a law.
As to the old "its my body and I can do whatever I want with it" yes you can do whatever you want with YOUR body but the fetus has a body of its
What really surprises me is that everyone on this thread who is "pro-choice" is trying to argue the point based not on facts, but emotion and anti
religous sentiments. And yet not one of the "pro-life" posters has even mentioned religon. We have mentioned medical science, the latest embryonic
research, and science, and yet none of the "pro-choice" posters are willing to touch that. Why?
I have shown evdence that by the 8th week there is brain activity, that the fetus has alredy determined whether or not its right or left handed, the
abillity to feel pain, hell the fetus even responds to music the mother is listening to. With such an overwhelming amount of evidence that the fetus
is not only alive, but responding to the outside world how can anyone say it is no more than a sack of cells? Do petri dishes move in rythem to music?
Do they feel pain ? Do they breath? Do thier hearts beat? Because a fetus does all this and science is still making more discoveries. And every
discovery pushes back earlier and earlier the emergence of the same exact charicteristics we associate with life and use to determine the difference
between life and death. I dont beleve that women who have abortons will go to hell. I dont beleve that women who have abortions are heartless, or that
all or even most of them do it for convience, but I do beleve that every time a woman has an abortion she is comiitng murder. Most dont look at it
that way because they have been told all the old lies, That its not murder because the fetus is not alive, that its only a potential life. But how can
you sy that a living being with a beating heart, breathing lungs, thinking brain, who responds to music, is not alive? Just awnser that one question,
and I challenge you to do it without mentioning God, or a womans right to her body. Just awnser that one question, given what we have learned about
embryonic devolpment, and the charicteristics that a fetus by 8 weeks shows, how can you say that fetus is not alive?
[edit on 19-8-2004 by mwm1331]