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posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 09:52 AM
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whats the difference if you get the morning after pill or abortion? If the process started before taking the pill isn't the same as murder still? Where do you people draw the line for life?




posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 09:58 AM
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I SEE YOU,

How the hell do you link the pill w/ murder?? You have 72 hrs after conception to take the pill that gives you 3 DAYS, 3 days isn't enough time to form a brain, not even a zygote.

If a baby has a brain it's a living person, there's neurons firing all over his/her mind, the heart is beating, limbs are grown, it can move... That's life..



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 10:07 AM
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Hey I'm for abortion under certain circumstances. I wanted to know where your thoughts were and they're funny. Now I understand, Something that may potentially be alive or grow to be alive is ok to disgard before hand but not when it has a brain of sorts. Now I undertand your reasoning.



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 10:13 AM
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yeah I guess your right, I do draw the line at abortion when it has a beating heart and a mind, a nervous system that makes the baby feel...
Yeah your right I have a problem with murdering a baby...


However a baby isn't even a baby at 3 days, it takes time, thats why if you take the pill you wouldn't allow the egg and sperm to get to that point..



posted on Jul, 13 2004 @ 10:15 AM
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But the egg and sperm might



posted on Jul, 15 2004 @ 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by I See You
whats the difference if you get the morning after pill or abortion? If the process started before taking the pill isn't the same as murder still? Where do you people draw the line for life?


So when I "finish" inside a condom thats a bad thing now?...Because thats technically life...no?...My opinion...life has begun once a normal baby could live without the support of a man-made machine...



posted on Jul, 15 2004 @ 07:30 AM
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of no one that condones abortion. People seem to get the idea that those that are pro-choice condones abortion. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are for the woman making a choice with God as her judge.



posted on Jul, 19 2004 @ 03:43 PM
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They just had a very (depressing) article (op ed) in the NY times:

When One is Enough




My immediate response was, I cannot have triplets. I was not married; I lived in a five-story walk-up in the East Village; I worked freelance; and I would have to go on bed rest in March. I lecture at colleges, and my biggest months are March and April. I would have to give up my main income for the rest of the year. There was a part of me that was sure I could work around that. But it was a matter of, Do I want to?




On the subway, Peter asked, ''Shouldn't we consider having triplets?'' And I had this adverse reaction: ''This is why they say it's the woman's choice, because you think I could just carry triplets. That's easy for you to say, but I'd have to give up my life.'' Not only would I have to be on bed rest at 20 weeks, I wouldn't be able to fly after 15. I was already at eight weeks......but now I'm going to have to move to Staten Island. I'll never leave my house because I'll have to care for these children. I'll have to start shopping only at Costco and buying big jars of mayonnaise....




After I talked to the specialist, I told Peter, ''That's what I'm going to do.'' He replied, ''What we're going to do.''


How do you spell selfish again?


So she carried one (the stand alone) to full term....why not all three? It was a low risk pregnancy and she could have easily put the twins up for adoption.

....It's also kinda sad that the father has no say whatsoever....



People like this (who see kids as either a fad or inconvenience) shouldn't be allowed to reproduce period.



posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 09:53 AM
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I just came across this tidbit which might shed light on some aspects of this debate. It, in no way, makes a concrete statement about the conceprion of life merely adds some evidence as to whether or not a baby is alive before actual birth and also offer some interesting trivia.

Enjoy.

www.newscientist.com...





The hand you favour as a 10-week-old fetus is the hand you will favour for the rest of your life, suggests a new study.





It is more likely, he says, that in the early fetus there is already a difference in gene activation between the right and left sides of the brain and that this leads to lateralisation



posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 10:43 AM
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How can you take something thats not there. If there is no life knowen, is there life. If a fetus is in the womb, and knows nothing about life, feels nothing does it have a life?

Or is it each person putting a face on that fetus, The person who sees it as a life does so because they chose too. do you really think the fetus is missing out on somethig? Maybe missing war, missing the food it needs to live. Maybe it is missing out on its parents beating it. May its missing out on being hated for being diffrent. There are alot of people that feel the world would be better if some people were not here. Maybe if the world seen things diffrently, they wouldnt be here.



posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 04:27 PM
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I suppose those who are against abortion are also against embyonic stem cell research? That the "life" created in a petri dish should not be used in research that would help millions?

Also are all who are anti abortion also against stepping on bugs, knocking down spiders, killing snakes, etc, etc,-after all that is life also.



posted on Jul, 22 2004 @ 04:30 PM
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I hate killing ants spiders snakes ect... I don't have the heart...
I won't do it i'll let them run around until I pick em up and put them outside.

I'm not against stem cell research, but i'm against partial birth abortion...

It's just so wrong... Put your #ing kid up for adoption you selfish bitches!



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 09:38 AM
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I am pro-abortion. I feel as if a woman wishes to do this.. she may. It's her life and it's not controlled by the right-wing christian conservatives. Yes abortion is not a pretty thing.. but what is more important? The woman's life or some idea we came up with in religion?

I am for whatever it takes to ensure people have a quality life.

To some.. life is only human life and all other life does not count.

[edit on 23-7-2004 by RedOctober90]



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by madmanacrosswater
I suppose those who are against abortion are also against embyonic stem cell research? That the "life" created in a petri dish should not be used in research that would help millions?



NO BABIES have to die for stem cell research! period. You can use eggs the the mother is throwing away, there are many other way to do stem cell.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by RedOctober90
I am pro-abortion. I feel as if a woman wishes to do this.. she may. It's her life and it's not controlled by the right-wing christian conservatives. Yes abortion is not a pretty thing.. but what is more important? The woman's life or some idea we came up with in religion?

I am for whatever it takes to ensure people have a quality life.

To some.. life is only human life and all other life does not count.

[edit on 23-7-2004 by RedOctober90]


There is no merit to this arguement. I'm not sure if you know (which I doubt).

"Murder" is "some idea" we came up with in religion. So is stealing, rape, etc. So you really have no point.

As far as "whatever it takes" to ensure quality of life, where are the guildlines going to end? Should we save money and raise quality of life for all by waxing the retarded, elderly, and mentally insane?

This whole discussion is rediculous.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by SpittinCobra

Originally posted by madmanacrosswater
I suppose those who are against abortion are also against embyonic stem cell research? That the "life" created in a petri dish should not be used in research that would help millions?



NO BABIES have to die for stem cell research! period. You can use eggs the the mother is throwing away, there are many other way to do stem cell.


So you consider the petri dish a baby? I have yet to find a mother who collects her eggs or throws them away.

Yes, there are other ways to work on stem cell. All much more expensive and not near as good. I guess the lives of millions does not outweigh the petri dish "baby". How ridiculous. If one considers that the moral thing to do perhaps they need to do a reality check on their spirituality. Not there religion, but there spirituality. A big difference.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 02:34 PM
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I think Abortion is wrong! But the government has no right to tell a woman what she can and cant do with her body. Keep the dam government out of our lives. They have enough to do wasting our tax dollars on other stupid #.



posted on Jul, 23 2004 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
I think Abortion is wrong! But the government has no right to tell a woman what she can and cant do with her body. Keep the dam government out of our lives. They have enough to do wasting our tax dollars on other stupid #.


So why bother with them at all? Why bother with the health codes? Why bother with any of it?

The thing is, is that people only want the government to stay out of their lives and bodies for specific reasons. This is not a valid arguement.



posted on Jul, 27 2004 @ 11:08 PM
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The problem with "pro lifers" is they want the child born, but don't want to pay for it or help raise it. The idea is so short sited it just makes me sick. Besides who is the governmentr to tell people what they should or should not do with their bodies-get real.



posted on Jul, 28 2004 @ 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by mrmonsoon
The problem with "pro lifers" is they want the child born, but don't want to pay for it or help raise it.....


Excuse me where did you hear that? How about if I say pro-choicers are to stupid to be knocked up in the first place and have no sense of responsibility?Stop spreading false accusations. I for one know that you are an abortion that failed.

[edit on 28-7-2004 by TACHYON]





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