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Only took 6 hours in power for the Republicans to be exposed for the fraud they are

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posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 10:19 PM
They are only just now getting around to reading it?

Shouldn't they all have had it memorized before they took office?

posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 10:39 PM
6 hours? Really? Obama is still getting cut slack for his inaction with the excuse that he needs time to accomplish what he said he would do. Why are the dems given over two years and the republicans get a whole 6 hours? Ah well, double standard for half of the two party system.

posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 09:06 AM
Okay I have told everyone I know, democratic or republican they are both just gonna ruin the country in the end. Now I am not gonna blame Obama no blaming is for the stupid because how can everyone expect ONE man to change eight years of bull# that Bush did. Even if Obama served two terms there is no way in hell he can fix everything that Bush put us in, in the eight years he been president. And watch everyone who is now against Obama is going to elect another dickhead cowboy for president and when he ruins everything, everybody is going to be crying "Oh I miss Obama," but no he won't be back. I think he is trying to do the best he can and right now the only thing he CAN do is take risk to make sure that he puts America back on top.

posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 09:42 AM
reply to post by Vitchilo

Well to tell you the truth I got a letter from my senator from Ga that happens to be Republican and in the agenda is that GA will file for the repeal of Obama care because it will cost the already strap wealth fare state 1 billion dollars that we don't have.

Still the reason the cuts can not go is because the mammoth health care bill from Obama is going to cost money, so how can you cut the budget when money is needed from all sectors to support Obama care without raising taxes?

Well I got a very detail accounts of how money is going to be scraped from various areas for this bill, and while Obama will not allowe taxes to be raised at federal level it will be left to the states to scrape for the money.

Perhaps Republicraps are as bad as Democraps but one thing is for sure states now are starting to bound together to repeal Obama care.

Too much unemployment and deficits to support it at state level when Obama want to make medicaid the public choice.

posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 09:56 AM

Originally posted by alonzo730
They only control the House of Representatives. If they controlled the Senate and the White House too, then we'd probably see some real change in this country. They only control one house, it's going to be business as usual. And from what I've seen, neither side of the aisle cares much for the Constitution.

Business as usual???
Didn't Speaker John Boehner park the Pelosi Gulfsteam business jet???
He will be flying commercial.
It's a small step but you have to start someplace.

The $14 Trillion national debt has everybody wide awake in Washington D.C.

posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 09:58 AM
reply to post by marg6043

Is Paul Krugman right?
Is our future Death Panels and Value Added Tax???

posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 10:16 AM
reply to post by Eurisko2012

I thing that the death panel thing is over hype, but we will fine out if the Obama care gets to be implemented.

But for what I can deduce is that many states now including mine is coming to the realization that the bill is going to be too expensive to implement and that cuts to already ailing services and the public education will suffer first, taxes will be increased at state also in order to finance the health care.

As unemployment keeps raising and the states keep falling into deeper deficits is going to become very hard to support the Obama health care implementation.

The next federal budget will include the expensive Obama care and this why is not way that the budget could be cut, because the cuts will come to support the bill.

So everything is now linked to Obama care implementation.

This the letter I got from my representative.

Dear Mrs. _____________:

Thank you for contacting me regarding your concerns about health care reform. It is good to hear from you.

On March 21, 2010, the House of Representatives passed the Senate version of the health care overhaul bill by a vote of 219-212 with no Republican support. The Senate legislation was filled with backroom deal-making, partisan arm-twisting and special carve-outs for wavering senators. This bill was then signed into law by the President. The House also approved a companion reconciliation bill, H.R. 4872, filled with "fixes" that made a bad bill worse.

The reconciliation bill then moved to the Senate where there were votes on close to 50 Republican amendments, including a repeal on cuts to Medicare and a provision to protect Americans from tax increases, none of which were adopted. The measure passed by a vote of 56-43 with no Republicans voting in favor.

The reconciliation bill provides $569 billion in new taxes, particularly affecting the small-business community. In order to fully enforce the provisions of this bill, the Internal Revenue Service estimates that it will be required to hire an additional 16,500 agents at a cost of $10 billion to the taxpayer.

I voted against both the Senate health care reform bill, H.R. 3590 and the reconciliation bill due to both the content of the bills and the way they were kept secret from many senators and from the American people. Our health care system needs reforming, but this is not the way to revamp a sector that represents 17 percent of America's economy.

I also voted against H.R. 3590 because among other bad choices, costs $2.5 trillion when fully implemented over 10 years, increases taxes, cuts Medicare by $465 billion, and does not bend the federal cost curve or the cost of overall health care to the citizens of the United States down.

For example, the threshold to qualify for Medicaid will increase to 133% of the poverty level. This will cost the state of Georgia an estimated $1 billion that will have to be offset through a tax hike, or cuts to public safety, education and other core services of state government. Also, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, approximately 176,000 Georgians enrolled in Medicare Advantage will have their benefits reduced. In addition, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation, roughly 2.1 million Georgia households making less than $200,000 annually will pay higher taxes.

Aside from the bill's budget-busting cost, seniors and taxpayers will be faced with many undue burdens. By paying for these new provisions by cutting Medicare, a program that is already in danger of becoming insolvent, many senior Americans will see their benefits and access to care severely diminished in order to establish new entitlement programs. Congress cannot continue ransacking Medicare funds to implement new government entitlement programs.

I also opposed a mandate on small businesses to cover the costs of their employees. The health care industry itself will also feel more than $100 billion in taxes and fees, which will be shifted directly to the American people in the form of higher premiums. Also, during this economic downturn, individuals would be taxed a total of $8 billion for not purchasing insurance the government deems appropriate.

To be sure, the number of uninsured Americans continues to rise, along with the premiums and out-of-pocket expenses incurred by insured consumers. We in Congress need to address this problem by searching for effective ways to expand access to adequate, affordable medical care for all Americans in a fiscally responsible manner, not by expanding government, slashing Medicare and trading votes for sweetheart deals.

Nevertheless, America is in need of health care reform. That's why I was an original cosponsor of S. 1099, the "Patients' Choice Act," which was introduced on May 20, 2009, and was referred to the Committee on Finance.

That legislation would make health care coverage accessible and affordable for all Americans through private insurance coverage while promoting prevention and wellness which can improve lives and lower medical costs. It would also put Americans in charge of their own health care by giving them a tax rebate of $2,300 for individuals and $5,700 for families to buy health insurance. It would allow patients to comparison shop for health care the same way they do for other products and services, and would allow them to keep their coverage if they changed jobs. Individuals with preexisting conditions could not be turned down or denied coverage.

Absent from the recently passed legislation was serious focus on tort reform. I am an original cosponsor of S. 2662, the "Fair Resolution of Medical Liability Disputes Act of 2009," which would create a system of preliminary non-binding arbitration for medical malpractice claims. If one or both parties involved reject the arbitrator's decision, they can take the claim to court, but the losing party would have to pay the winning party's legal fees.

This is not end of the health care debate. I recently became an original cosponsor of legislation offered by Senator DeMint, S. 3152, which would repeal the health care bill. Governor Perdue has appointed a "special attorney general" to challenge the legislation.

During the debate, the Senate moved too quickly with radical proposals that may not achieve their worthy objectives. This rush to legislative passage will limit Americans' access to health care and lower quality while increasing taxes and the nation's debt. Instead of ramming through legislation – largely kept secret– to overhaul our entire health care system, we should have focused on incremental reform to improve the areas of greatest need.

If you would like to receive timely e-mail alerts regarding the latest congressional actions and my weekly e-newsletter, please sign up via my Web site at: Please let me know whenever I may be of assistance

posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 11:28 AM
reply to post by Vitchilo

- Repeal Obamacare. - Bring back the troops - End the wars - Cut the war budget - Impeach Obama - Sue the last administration for war crimes - Close Guantanamo - Stop bank bailouts - Kick the FED's butt (well maybe Paul will, but alone he can't do much) - Reduce the deficit for real - Fix the economic scam... I meant system - Repeal the unconstitutional laws like the Patriot Act/no warrant monitoring of all communications - Secure the border - Stop the TSA molesting and checkpoints being put all around the US

heh considering the congress voted and passed all of this, I tend to agree with the op. I dont think these things are going to change.

posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 11:39 AM
i just have one comment on all this:

if the real culprits behind all this, are the banks, and the banks are foreign owned entities, and the banks are the driving force behind the wars, the crime, and the corruption, why are americans being blamed for the actions of foreign entities,. who are not only manipulating america but most of the planet? that's the part i don't get.

posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 11:43 AM
reply to post by Nephalim

Yes it takes a congress to vote legislation into law, but no all senators and representatives voted for many bills.
At least my senator didn't voted for Obama care and his letter explain why.

posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 12:30 PM
reply to post by Vitchilo

Not sure what the vid of a ?security guard? beating someone has to do with the OP?

posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 12:39 PM
reply to post by bluemirage5

No, it's time to completely clean out Congress and the White House and put in GOOD men who have only the nation's best interests at heart.....except whoever gets in becomes one of them behind the black curtain.

There is a viable answer. Give the electorate the teeth to keep their reps in line.

Every single one of us should be pushing for state laws allowing voters to recall federal Senators and Representatives as well as state officials.

Recall Congress Now Org

However this will be a bitterly fought battle. The last thing TPTB wants is their pet legislators worried about what the voters want instead of what they have been bribed to do.

While 18 of the 50 United States offer their citizens an opportunity to recall their elected officials, it is a fact that in our nation’s history, no federal legislator has yet been recalled.

It has not been for lack of interest. Rather, the process has languished in part due to debates on whether or not legal authority exists for recall of U.S. Senators and Congressmen; and, in the case of Idaho, interference by a state court prevented recall of a federal legislator....

After reviewing the body of law and opinion concerning recall, it is apparent that if recall of federal legislators is to succeed, it will likely only be after an intense battle in the federal court system as to the degree to which the courts will go to allow the literal meaning of the Tenth Amendment to be in force and effect.

As this author reads this language, it appears clear that " the States ‘ and " the people " living with in them, should be recognized to have the right of recall.

But in order to implement a strategy that will enable recall petitions to result in actual removal of errant Senators and Congressmen, considerable legal and political obstacles will present themselves and can only be overcome by understanding the lengths to which those opposed to recall can be expected to go...

Eighteen states have recall provisions. Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington, and Wisconsin all have recall of some kind available to their voters. Only seven of these states require any grounds.

Fight at the Federal level if we can but we must ATTACK at the state level NOW.

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