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Dead fish and birds in Arkansas and central US Caused by Carbon Capture Plant?

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posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 05:54 PM
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Thursday, Dec 30th - 83,000 Drum Fish (Bottom Feeders) die in Arkansas

We are told that it couldn't be a pollutant, because it effected only one species of fish... The bottom feeders. Now, my scientific mind says that the bottom feeders eat something a lot different than the fish at the top. And as we can see, there were 83,000 of them over the stretch of 20 miles. You can't rule out a pollutant.



That Video was taken Here



But if we switch to satellite image we see something very interesting right up the way from them....



What are those? I sure don't know... so I went looking....

And to the east of these is a very interesting looking compound...



Turns out, the roads which run both north and south as well as east and west around this compound are called "Carbon Plant Road"




So what is a Carbon Plant? It's a Carbon Capture Plant actually...

And they look like this



Just like the one up above.

Look at where all the carbon goes...



Through a co-operation agreement signed between Gaz de France and Vattenfall, the CO2 captured at Schwarze Pumpe will be used for enhanced gas recovery and storage at Europe's second largest onshore gas field, Altmark, during a three-year trial period. CO2 will be injected at depths of 3000m, and methods will be investigated for extending the natural lifetime of a gas field combined with permanent CO2 storage.

The 30MW pilot plant will provide the technical basis for the construction of much larger 200 -300MW demonstration power plant to be constructed by 2015.

What is oxy-combustion?

Oxy-fuel firing represents one of several methods available to capture CO2 from power plants.

Research and testing of oxy-fuel applications are being pursued by European and US suppliers in collaboration with utilities, academia, the US Department of Energy and the European Union.

Based on economic studies of a range of CO2 mitigation technologies, oxy-fuel firing is competitive compared to other pre-combustion and post-combustion technologies.

Oxy-fuel firing technology is a process in which fuel is burned in a mixture of high purity oxygen ([s40]95 per cent by volume) and recirculated flue gas, essentially eliminating the presence of atmospheric nitrogen in the flue gas. The resulting flue gas contains primarily CO2 and water vapour, along with small amounts of nitrogen, oxygen, and gases like SO2 and NOx.

This resulting flue gas can be processed relatively easily (through rectification or distillation) to enrich the CO2 content in the product gas to more than 99 per cent purity. The CO2 can then be used for industrial applications such as enhanced oil or gas recovery (EOR or EGR).


Oh wait a minute...

It also has by products of Sulfur Dioxide


Sulfur dioxide is a major air pollutant and has significant impacts upon human health. In addition the concentration of sulfur dioxide in the atmosphere can influence the habitat suitability for plant communities as well as animal life.[10] Sulfur dioxide emissions are a precursor to acid rain and atmospheric particulates.


Ok.. that's bad...

But what about the NOx? Well that's mono nitrogen oxide



NOx reacts with ammonia, moisture, and other compounds to form nitric acid vapor and related particles.


Whoa.. right there, if that mixed with fish feces... on the BOTTOM where BOTTOM FEEDERS EAT.. then there would be a lot of ammonia rich soil and plenty of moisture....

But let's go on



Small particles can penetrate deeply into sensitive lung tissue and damage it, causing premature death in extreme cases. Inhalation of such particles may cause or worsen respiratory diseases such as emphysema, bronchitis it may also aggravate existing heart disease.


Whoa... what about the lungs of birds? Well, I'm getting ahead of myself...




NOx reacts with volatile organic compounds in the presence sunlight to form Ozone. Ozone can cause adverse effects such as damage to lung tissue and reduction in lung function mostly in susceptible populations (children, elderly, asthmatics). Ozone can be transported by wind currents and cause health impacts far from the original sources. The American Lung Association estimates that nearly 50 percent of United States inhabitants live in counties that are not in ozone compliance.




This can travel a good distance...




NOx destroys ozone in the stratosphere.Ozone in the stratosphere absorbs ultraviolet light, which is potentially damaging to life on earth. NOx from combustion sources does not reach the stratosphere; instead, NOx is formed in the stratosphere from photolysis of nitrous oxide.

NOx also readily reacts with common organic chemicals, and even ozone, to form a wide variety of toxic products: nitroarenes, nitrosamines and also the nitrate radical some of which may cause biological mutations. Recently another pathway, via NOx, to ozone has been found that predominantly occurs in coastal areas via formation of nitryl chloride when NOx comes into contact with salt mist.


It's just horrible stuff... and it's being put into the ground right next to where the original fish kill was.





Then, on New years Eve - Between 3000-5000 birds fall from the sky...




So where is Beebe in relation to Roseville? 122 miles due east of Roseville Well... as the crow flies....

Note that the river runs 3/4 of the way there...



What do birds eat again?

Oh yeah.. that's right.. they'd pick at dead fish... and if they didn't do that, they'd surely be eating something which is from that river.. just like the duck did...

perhaps it was in the air at this time as well... This is all speculation...

But the river itself empties into the Mississippi...

Now there were 83,000 fish... how much you bet birds found else where in the central part of the US ate from the same source?


Each day birds from farther away are found dead... whatever it is... it is spreading....


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posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 05:57 PM
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If this were true, then other fish would be dead as well, from feeding on the fish that were contaminated....


Food chain..........remember



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 05:58 PM
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"Solved!" means you have the results of tests in hand proving your theory. Do you? Who did the tests of the cadavers to prove this? Link to the results of the tests? Name of the Labs used? Which qualified Peers reviewed the work?
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posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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Only one species of fish died in Arkansas. So your theory doesn't hold water.

It most probably was disease.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:00 PM
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I commend the research, but I think the big question has to be asked as to how long this plant has been at said location, as well as how long it has been active.

If this is a recent addition, sure, I could see it being related. However, if the plant has been running for years doing the same process, I daresay we would have seen a similar situation prior to this weeks kill offs.

Additionally, unless the toxins that are emitted are able to travel around the world in a short period of time, we are to believe that the occurrence of so many bird and fish kill offs around the world is merely coincidence. As of this point, I believe we have passed the point of "coincidence."



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:02 PM
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good research!lets see what the msm has to say in a couple of days.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:03 PM
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looks sound to me. but then you have to think about all the other birds falling from the sky around the world right now



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
If this were true, then other fish would be dead as well, from feeding on the fish that were contaminated....


Food chain..........remember


Nope because they washed up... fish cant jump out and eat them... and they prolly didnt die until they got close to land..

But yes.. that's why the birds died... because of the food chain you mentioned



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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Well that's true but I think this thread is off to a good start. Any fact finding investigation begins with a theory and a question.

Why........



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by gwydionblack
I commend the research, but I think the big question has to be asked as to how long this plant has been at said location, as well as how long it has been active.

If this is a recent addition, sure, I could see it being related. However, if the plant has been running for years doing the same process, I daresay we would have seen a similar situation prior to this weeks kill offs.

Additionally, unless the toxins that are emitted are able to travel around the world in a short period of time, we are to believe that the occurrence of so many bird and fish kill offs around the world is merely coincidence. As of this point, I believe we have passed the point of "coincidence."



Unless something went wrong... But these are all very new tech...



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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excellent research.. big pat on the back for that.. although im not sure your theory is correct, still to many questions unanswered.. well done anyway, we need people like you on this site, its what keeps it going..
better luck next time.. dont give up..



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:06 PM
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Great find and analysis but what about catfish, the most notorious bottom feeders?
I had not heard of these kind of CO plants but now I feel it is just something else to worry about. Man I love Arkansas and have spent much time there but I am starting to worry about the living conditions. With these Co plants, fracking, fault lines and chemical weapon storage, the volatility in such an area only increases. I'd have a set of gas masks on hand jic.

peace,
spec



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:07 PM
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Here is what the MSN says:

Massive fish kill blankets Arkansas River.




Stephens said fish kills occur every year, but the size of the latest one is unusual, and suggested some sort of disease was to blame.




"The fish kill only affected one species of fish," he said. "If it was from a pollutant, it would have affected all of the fish, not just drum fish."



Biologists believe the bird deaths were stress-related from either fireworks or weather and are unrelated to the fish kill near Ozark, Stephens said.




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posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:08 PM
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The fish were all bottom feeders... you really should read the OP...



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
If this were true, then other fish would be dead as well, from feeding on the fish that were contaminated....


Food chain..........remember


thats not quite true... fish and other species of animal will avoid eating an another if it is diseased or poisoned..
and to be honest unless you know how the food chain works in that specific river, including which species of animal it is home to, you cant really make a statement like that,



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
If this were true, then other fish would be dead as well, from feeding on the fish that were contaminated....


Food chain..........remember


Nope because they washed up... fish cant jump out and eat them... and they prolly didnt die until they got close to land..

But yes.. that's why the birds died... because of the food chain you mentioned




yes fish cant jump out of the water and eat them, but they would feed on them IN the water......especially the fingerlings......and if the contaminated fish killed the birds, they would have killed other spieces of fish that fed on them as well..........which wasnt the case



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:17 PM
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bottom feeders and any fingerling size fish are prime targets for predator fish.........

its like that in all rivers........



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask
 


Well that's true but I think this thread is off to a good start. Any fact finding investigation begins with a theory and a question.

Why........



I agree, I think hes headed in the right direction for sure......but in this case i dont think that is the case.....it could be close..

Ive also thought about methane releases......if they were small enough amounts they would kill fish only on a certain depth closest to the bottom.........

However that would leave the bird issue seperate, which it might be



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:22 PM
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It really depends on what fish are in that river at this time of year....

Also it matters the ratio... for example, there could easily be more bottom feeders by a 5:1 ratio... much like all the same bird type in Beebe, and one duck



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:22 PM
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That river is loaded with at least 3 different kinds of catfish which are also bottom feeders. why didn't this effect them also?

Nice research, I'll have to disagree though.



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