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Viking Found Organics on Mars, Experiment Confirms

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posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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Viking Found Organics on Mars, Experiment Confirms


news.discovery.com

Using Mars-like soil taken from Atacama Desert, a study confirms Mars has organics, and Viking found them.
(visit the link for the full news article)





New evidence for organics on Mars does not mean Viking found life, cautions McKay.

"Finding organics is not evidence of life or evidence of past life. It's just evidence for organics," he said.




edit on 5-1-2011 by XPLodER because: add more content

edit on 5-1-2011 by XPLodER because: add photo




posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 01:16 PM
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30 years ago the mars lander viking found organics
NASA at the time dismissed the finding as being "contaminated"
if microbial life is on mars then life is alot more common than first thought
most wont be as excited as i am about this but in my mind this announcement is the first real admition of extra terestrial life found
and it was found 30 years ago
this is one of the biggest things to happen in human history IMHO
that we are no longer alone in the universe
even if it is a microbe it shows that life can and does exist elsewhere

news.discovery.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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i wounder if the results were dismissed for a reason
or was this just a mistake on the part of NASA

we waited 20 years to go back and test for organics, why?


But if NASA had realized there were organics on Mars, there might not have been a 20-year hiatus in sending landers for follow-up studies, said Rafael Navarro-González, with the Institute of Nuclear Science at the National Autonomous University in Mexico.

"We might have had continuing missions," Navarro-González told Discovery News.

NASA plans to launch a follow-up mission to look for organics on Mars in November.

The research appears in last month's Journal of Geophysical Research.




posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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it smells like someone needs more funding.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 01:23 PM
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different artical
samilar topic NASA thinks if there is life on mars it may have come from earth



"We think that if there is life on Mars, it could be related to us," Massachusetts Institute of Technology engineer and scientist Christopher Carr told Discovery News.

With NASA funding, Carr and colleagues at MIT are developing a prototype device to decode alien DNA, a project known as the Search for Extraterrestrial Genomes (SETG). They hope to fly an instrument as part of a joint NASA-European Space Agency mission to Mars slated to launch in 2018.



news.discovery.com...

xploder



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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Yes sounds like another plea for funding with another sucker me in headline . Why do we parrot it back on ATS when we already know how baseless it is ? Why because of the same reason they had that headline in the first place. Lets read between the lines . Every fart on mars is a headline . Any fart in space is a headline . Did you know farts make the organic compounds for life to arise ? Yea i just need 50 billion + 20 years to prove it .



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 01:31 PM
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It's a joke. Of course there is organics on Mars. How old is that planet?

Anything from NASA should immediately be disregarded as sanitized and false information.

Never Admit Seeing Anything - Every photo is colored and altered, if you didn't know.

I wonder if NASA even knows Mars is being terraformed. There's already a few million human occupants there.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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yeah, something stinks for sure. we all see what could be a face on Mars and they poo poo it away when us mere earthlings want NASA to go there but they say they found some sort of life bacteria, that we have not seen or heard about till now, and they want to go back.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 01:39 PM
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This is pretty cool, if you ask me. I am relatively uneducated on what constitutes finding "life" on other planets. However, in my opinion, even microbes constitute a living being. Something that's alive doesn't necessarily mean that its intelligent, however finding intelligent life would be astonishing. This just gives more credit to all of us who truly in our hearts believe that we are not alone. Seems to be a step in the right direction.

Now the true question is, if there is intelligent life out there, with technology, are they friendly?

If any UFO sightings are true, it makes me wonder what the heck their intentions are, just hovering over us and monitoring us.

Cool thread.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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i think this is not so much about funding
i think this is more about admitting a mistake made 30 years ago
when the new tests were done they must have realized that the original
tests were not contaminated
if this is correct then nasa has done the right thing by correcting the information


More than 30 years after NASA's Viking landers found no evidence for organic materials on Mars, scientists say a new experiment on Mars-like soil shows Viking did, in fact, hit pay dirt.



so what if there is organics on mars?
if we are interested in finding microbial life on mars there will be another mission to test for it
at the very minimum it will cost more money
but personally i think its better to admit the mistake and go back for more tests.

small steps forward for nasa (admiting error) on the mars issiue may mean a new era of space exploration
where the basic building blocks of life are confirmed
when life is discovered on mars there can be no question of life else where in the universe.

exciting times

xploder



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by XPLodER


New evidence for organics on Mars does not mean Viking found life, cautions McKay.

"Finding organics is not evidence of life or evidence of past life. It's just evidence for organics," he said.



I love this quote. *haha* Is organic not biological?
IMO this is hardcore proof that life can exist outside our planet, regardless of the evolutionary stage.
Good find OP - S&F



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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The two quotes are contradictory. One says Mars has organics and viking found them, the other says they found new evidence.

So really they just found new evidence for it based on studies here at home of non martian material.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by discl0sur3
I love this quote. *haha* Is organic not biological?

Not when the noun organics is used.


noun (usually organics)
1 a food produced by organic farming.
2 an organic chemical compound.

Oxford Dictionaries

I doubt they were talking about organic vegetables so here's the definition of organic compound.

An organic compound is any member of a large class of gaseous, liquid, or solid chemical compounds whose molecules contain carbon.
See here


That isn't to say there is no life there though, but I haven't seen this research published anywhere so I don't think this is your smoking gun.
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posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 02:14 PM
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There's more than organics on Mars. There's water, bones, fossils and aliens.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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Coincidentally, this news appears after China and Russia announce a joint Martian program, to launch, this October.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by Metallicafan
There MIGHT BE more than organics on Mars. There MIGHT BE water, bones, fossils and aliens.


There I fixed it for you.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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It's not if there might. There is! I'm not dumb. They just haven't told the people. You have to educate yourself.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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I remember the mission. The experiment that comes to mind was what was called the chicken soup experiment. A sample of soil was placed in a medium that resembled chicken soup and was tested over time to see if there was any signs of growth. Not only did it have positive results but expelled gasses was on a bio rhythm equivalent to the martian day. It was later explained away as non-biological chemical reactions. I was very pissed when they explained away the positive results and never looked back. At the very least they could of said that the results where positive and that there might be life. Instead they sighted it as a negative results for all these years.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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So are you not the people. How does one educate himself if the information is not out there? You are operating on your own hunch (or the hunch of people who lecture on their hunches).



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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okay I was watching on of those shows about the universe the other day, kind of half paying attention but they said and I paid attention to this part ,that there is for sure NO life on Mars because the surface of Mars is 'self sterilizing'
their words,the show then went on to reiterate Mars life is not possible. it's deader than a doornail.
soooo uummm what could have changed?




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