posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 08:42 PM
I think I'm done with this thread.
I've never had a friend or "fellow Leftist" advocate molesting kids.
I have, however, attended an all boys school that was highly Conservative, had all the rhetoric of being tough, self-disciplined and not making
excuses. Personal Responsibility! We had to attend a fire and brimstone type Church. I used to compete for how many logs I could carry on my back to
the worksite two miles away. It made me stronger, self-confident, and tougher.
However, I've been anywhere that had more Leaders trying to screw more kids. The people who wanted things to be less destructive for kids, did NOT
get promoted, while the molesters helped push each other to the top. I think that's how every institution works when Authority is absolute and cannot
>> Totalitarian and Theocratic nations, all makes sins out of things that they WANT to do. The Taliban, will kill an openly gay couple or stone a
woman that admits to rape. But not the rapist. They will have parties for the Elders, and young boys are encouraged to dance suggestively. Then the
old men have their way with them.
The Saudis, also have the same practice; a LOVING, relationship -- that is forbidden, means death. But you can rape and take advantage of kids.
It doesn't have to be just the one thing. In the USA -- you can get groped going through TSA screening "to protect us all from terrorists" --
though the people too stupid to stop it, got to NOT be investigated and got lots more power. But, if you give up your right to privacy and liberty,
you can get a Quick-Pass that will let you NOT be scanned and groped. Hopefully, no terrorist will just go through the Quick-Pass crap and just carry
a bomb on board. Or -- if they take a private jet -- there is no security at all! So, privacy is for the unquestioned elite, and we just sit around
and let them tell us who the bad guys are -- and WHY they are angry.
>> These are all FEAR-based societies. You put people with power over others and no justice, and the only ones allowed to get away with the
perversions or crimes, are the people who support your power. It's a similar recipe all over the world. BP supports the regime, and BP doesn't have
to go to jail for killing thousands because they wanted to make a few more bucks.
Not that I care about some Progressive group 60 years or more ago -- but it's also very possible this was Nazis propaganda -- they were ALWAYS
charging other groups with the worst perversions. They'd fit in well with people on Fox news. There is not one strand of DNA from THAT progressive
group and the people who NOW call themselves Progressives here in America. Our #1 goal is justice. The other goal is environment and getting out of
resource wars and making sure elections are actually monitored again.
>> This "discussion" is immature name-calling. And it tries to tell me what I THINK and believe in. For the record -- I think anyone can screw a
goat who wants to. There are people who eat goats, and if the goats would talk, they'd probably prefer prison sex to being served with Mint Jelly. It
is a victimless crime.
But seriously -- to try and make "Progressivism" all about child molesting -- you have to go back 100 years to some group that MIGHT have called
it's ideas progressive? Ignoring, of course, current events... I can show you video clips of Republican Senators talking about Secession,
Assassinations, and solving the Homeless problem by putting people in prison. The DANGER of Liberals, is always what they COULD DO -- some projection
of evil onto the agenda of lowering Carbon emissions that COULD POSSIBLY hurt the economy more than Carly Fiorina sending thousands of jobs to
We don't ridicule different ideas -- we RIDICULE IDIOTIC IDEAS. Having Sarah Palin get air time, when all she has done is quit her Governor's job,
dodge some legal troubles, and spout nonsense -- it's a true insult. There is a demonstrable difference between someone ignorant and someone who has
IDEAS. And no honest person can say that half the Republicans on TV aren't ignorant. We have to DEBATE about torture being wrong. We have to debate
that there should be justice, or that Bush should be tried for war crimes. If you want to have a court case with Obama on the witness stand -- be my
guest, as long as Cheney goes first. Compromise with stupid and evil is not much of a compromise. Conservatives used to make sense, but they want
everyone to join them on their way off a cliff.
We've got an economy in free fall -- and they can only talk about more tax breaks for billionaires. They want Austerity Measures to "stay on
budget" -- and of course, the tax breaks and wars don't mean we have to borrow but keeping teachers on a payroll does?
I'm sick of the debate. To try and make this country solvent, and decent and stand for something -- every Liberal and Progressive in history has to
be without sin -- before of course, we can hold any Corporation to account, can investigate any wrongdoing. Banks get to launder drug money, but a
homeowner cannot miss a payment. We aren't talking about being anti-Corporation, we are debating against people who are anti-Justice. The entire
family is getting RAPED by American institutions these days.
... rant over. This topic is moronic.