Liberal Elite perform mass child-rape

Originally posted by lnr42
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You are fully exposed as the hater you are.

edit on 13-1-2011 by lnr42 because: need more coffee

I wouldnt say hater. Id say Im skeptical/critical of the extreme forms of the sexual liberation movement. I have no problem with homosexuals, lesbians, free sex and similar.

Thanks for reading and bumping the thread, its greatly appreciated

reply to post by lucid eyes


What, in your opinion, could be done to counter this trend that you are observing?

Thank you,

the Billmeister

Originally posted by Billmeister


What, in your opinion, could be done to counter this trend that you are observing?

Thank you,

the Billmeister

Oh...a post that is not an attack. Wow...caught me off guard there.

I think that Awareness of the mindsets from which this happens can counter these trends.

Catholic-Priest scandals in child-molestation have something to do with the repressive policies of the Church. The "everything goes in sexual liberation" crowd not drawing a line has something to do with the child-molestations mentioned in the OP.

In my view there already a mass-awareness of the Catholic correlation but not much of an awareness of the "sexual revolution" correlation. Thats the reason the OP is one-sided.

Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by Billmeister


What, in your opinion, could be done to counter this trend that you are observing?

Thank you,

the Billmeister

Oh...a post that is not an attack. Wow...caught me off guard there.

I think that Awareness of the mindsets from which this happens can counter these trends.

Catholic-Priest scandals in child-molestation have something to do with the repressive policies of the Church. The "everything goes in sexual liberation" crowd not drawing a line has something to do with the child-molestations mentioned in the OP.

In my view there already a mass-awareness of the Catholic correlation but not much of an awareness of the "sexual revolution" correlation. Thats the reason the OP is one-sided.

With all due respect, I think that if you had presented the OP with this angle to begin with, your message would have more successfully been understood. Then again, some sensationalism can be effective as well.

I hope you are not referring to my earlier posts as attacks, in fact, I was trying my best to get some clarification on your view point. (I actually went back to read my posts to ensure I had not been disrespectful, and I believe I was not.)
You left a few of my posts unanswered, but I do understand that we all have other things to do outside of ATS.

the Billmeister

Originally posted by Billmeister
With all due respect, I think that if you had presented the OP with this angle to begin with, your message would have more successfully been understood. Then again, some sensationalism can be effective as well.

Indeed, sometimes a little sensationalism can get a subject more "hits" than a reasonable post can.

I hope you are not referring to my earlier posts as attacks, in fact, I was trying my best to get some clarification on your view point. (I actually went back to read my posts to ensure I had not been disrespectful, and I believe I was not.)
You left a few of my posts unanswered, but I do understand that we all have other things to do outside of ATS.

My apologies, I went on a half-ignore mode with your first post that linked conservatives to the ideologies described in the opening. I shall be more friendly now.

reply to post by lucid eyes


No apology needed. Remember the website's mission statement: "deny ignorance".

Just because one questions the OP and certain posts (heck, even sources can be questioned), does not mean they are taking sides and opposing the view point outright. Debate is a healthy part of growing.

I do not have to agree with everything posted here, and by no means do you, but I sincerely thank you for bringing to light many things I was unaware of.

Cheers,

the Billmeister

p.s.
Being from Canada, I was not aware as to what NAMBLA was... I will direct your apology as to having sent me to its website! (just kidding, but some sort of warning would have been nice)

reply to post by lucid eyes


Kudos for keeping up the fight in this thread regardless of those who have attempted to derail it. You have raised many valid points.

I feel that I must add some information here. Not sure if this was mentioned previously. But the discussion of the liberal sexual liberation/revolution would not be complete without the mention of Dr. Alfred Kinsey of the famed Kinsey Institute for sexual research.

He was considered the "Father of the Sexual Revolution" and he was one sick fella. All of his disturbing research was of course conducted under the guise of "scientific study".

"He is a man who recruited, wooed and solicited pedophiles, not pedophiles in prison but pedophiles out of prison to find children and to sexually torture them." Judith Reisman, Ph.D. and author of Kinsey: Crimes and Consequences.

"It's all true. He hired people to abuse children on the record. And record their findings. It was unbelievable." Charles Rice, law professor, University of Notre Dame and author of Fifty Questions on Natural Law.

he father of the modern sexual revolution and the author of the acclaimed 1948 study of male sexuality and a 1953 study on female sexuality was a sado-masochistic bisexual. But perhaps the worst thing about him was his celebration of the sexual abuse of children, including infants as young as two months old.

On a larger scale, he wreaked havoc on post-World War II America. He promoted a way of life based on false data that was aimed at–and succeeded–in undermining the Judeo-Christian moral foundation of the American legal system.

"He is the godfather of the whole movement to liberalize laws in this area. The changes of the laws that came out were the results of Kinsey's investigations," says Charles Rice, law professor of the University of Notre Dame, and author of Fifty Questions on Natural Law.

Kinsey wrote to the abuser of 800 children, "I rejoice at everything you send, for I am then assured that that much more of your material is saved for scientific publication." A British documentary found that Kinsey was actually getting information from a Nazi child abuser in Poland during World War II, says Ron Ray, a retired Marine Corps Colonel, of RSVP America, an organization battling the effects of Kinsey's work on the legal system.

Kinsey's research into the sexual practices of humans included at least 1,400 pedophiles, Reisman said.

"He redefined them as normal American men and he said we need to change all of our laws because this is what all men do. Joe College does it, Daddy does it, so therefore all of our laws need to be gutted," says Reisman. He created out of whole cloth the statistic that 10 to 30 percent of the male population is homosexual and this statistic continues to be used by gay rights advocates, even though later studies have found 1to 4 percent of the population is homosexual, Wiker notes.

"This is a man who wrote about children fainting and having convulsions and screaming and writhing in pain and he called that pleasure," said Reisman.

www.ignatiusinsight.com...

Kinsey also has links to the Odenwald School and had apparently traveled to the school between 1930 and 1932. His "work" parallels that of his famous contemporary German sexual researcher Magnus Hirschfeld. He also studied a habitual Nazi pedophile.

Speaking of Kinsey, also just out is The Kinsey Syndrome, a documentary:

This documentary shows how The Kinsey Reports have been used to change the laws concerning sex crimes in America, resulting in the minimal sentences so often given to rapists and pedophiles. Further explained is that the Kinsey data laid the foundation for sex education -- training teachers, psychologists and even Catholic priests in human sexuality. What has been the consequence? And what was Kinsey's research really based upon?

Working secretly in his attic, Dr. Kinsey was one of America's original pornographers. His influence inspired Hugh Hefner to launch Playboy magazine - the "soft" approach to porn - which in time would escalate the widespread use of pornography through magazines, cable TV and the Internet....

Perhaps most disturbing, Alfred Kinsey has been accused of training pedophiles to work with stopwatches and record the responses of children being raped - all in the name of "science." Among his workers was a Nazi pedophile...

www.jillstanek.com...

LIberal/Progressive elite indeed. We have men like Kinsey to thank for many of the problems we have faced as a result of sexual liberation/revolution.

Keep up the fight!

reply to post by jibeho


Thanks for your Kinsey-Report. I forgot all about him. Incredible that there are links to the Odenwald School!!!!!

Of general interest: In this thread on Pedophilia Author Arrested the only people defending this guys "freedom of speech" are liberals. Who would have thought?

Originally posted by Billmeister

p.s.
Being from Canada, I was not aware as to what NAMBLA was... I will direct your apology as to having sent me to its website! (just kidding, but some sort of warning would have been nice)

Yes, understood. I felt uncomfortable even going there to source the material.

reply to post by lucid eyes


Never forget Dr. Hunter S. Thompson who was murdered for trying to expose the gov. pedo.

I used to let this stuff get to me because it hurt me so much to think about. But that just lets them win and feed on my negative thoughts. Instead I will be happy believing I am going to Destroy the Universe.

Originally posted by lucid eyes
Of general interest: In this thread on Pedophilia Author Arrested the only people defending this guys "freedom of speech" are liberals. Who would have thought?

That is a pretty sick mischaracterization and I think you know exactly what you are doing there. No one in that thread is defending pedophilia or child rape. That man wrote a book in the US. In the US, you are safe from punishment of torture, death, rape, and imprisonment for writing a book no matter how bad the content is. If anyone were crying that you be locked up, raped, and beated to death for writing this thread I would offer the exact same defense of you. Guess what kind of company that puts you in by your weak associations? Like I said, I think you know what you are doing though.

Originally posted by Sinnthia
That man wrote a book in the US. In the US, you are safe from punishment of torture, death, rape, and imprisonment for writing a book no matter how bad the content is.

The question you guys can ask yourself is why you spend hours and hours in the internet fighting for the pedophile but not a second fighting for the children that are molested by them. Thats whats truly sick.

Originally posted by lucid eyes
The question you guys can ask yourself is why you spend hours and hours in the internet fighting for the pedophile but not a second fighting for the children that are molested by them. Thats whats truly sick.

No, I do not have to ask myself that question because I understand the difference between and online discussion and real world action. Perhaps you should ask yourself why you think sitting around on ATS in any way resembles actually doing anything about anything.

Originally posted by Sinnthia
No, I do not have to ask myself that question because I understand the difference between and online discussion and real world action. Perhaps you should ask yourself why you think sitting around on ATS in any way resembles actually doing anything about anything.

It makes a big difference. Readers see how one side defends children and the other side defends the "rights of child molestors" and they can then make an informed choice of who to support.

reply to post by lucid eyes


Then you are giving far to much importance to a thread on ATS in favor of reality. You have no idea what I do for a living or with my free time not spent writing threads here. Quite frankly, a few UFO enthusiasts and pseudo militia wannabes do not really concern that much and thus I see this for what it is. The real world where real children are really being hurt are out there. You are sitting here getting worked up over an imaginary premise and some book a guy wrote. I hope you see the difference between that and reality someday.

Originally posted by Sinnthia
You are sitting here getting worked up over an imaginary premise and some book a guy wrote. I hope you see the difference between that and reality someday.

For the children these issues are not "imaginary premises".Neither is the mass-child-rape by the Liberal Elite an "imaginary premise":

This thread educates people about the roots of the teen-porn movement, the European liberal elite opening Kindgerardens to explore child molestation as a way of life, Obamas Education minister who wants to teach children about Fisting, Liberals who defend the rights of child molestors instead of the victims, ACLU promoting pedophilia, liberals fighting to lower the age of consent, the most prominent liberals standing up for repeat child-rapists such as Polanski, Communists-for-Pedophilia campaigns and much more.

These events and agendas are a disgrace to civilized society, barbarian and violent.

If you couple the information unearthed in this thread with the fact that liberals say YES to abortion, you get an idea of what liberals think about our children.

Originally posted by lucid eyes

Originally posted by Sinnthia
You are sitting here getting worked up over an imaginary premise and some book a guy wrote. I hope you see the difference between that and reality someday.

For the children these issues are not "imaginary premises".Neither is the mass-child-rape by the Liberal Elite an "imaginary premise":

What children? Are children who are really raped by some Liberal any less harmed than a child raped by a Conservative? Why should I worry more about one child rape and ignore another kind altogether? You have yet to make that case.

This thread educates people about the roots of the teen-porn movement, the European liberal elite opening Kindgerardens to explore child molestation as a way of life, Obamas Education minister who wants to teach children about Fisting, Liberals who defend the rights of child molestors instead of the victims, ACLU promoting pedophilia, liberals fighting to lower the age of consent, the most prominent liberals standing up for repeat child-rapists such as Polanski, Communists-for-Pedophilia campaigns and much more.

No, not really. It would require facts and someone who can accurately "teach" them in order for your braggadocios claim to be true. All I have really learned is that some people have such a warped sense of political ideology that they are even willing to politicize child rape in order to demonize, not child rapists, but Liberals. Kind of wish I hadn't.

These events and agendas are a disgrace to civilized society, barbarian and violent.

But the ones done by conservatives are a good thing? I think I get it now. Some hippy rapes a kid = BAD. The entire Catholic church thrives on raping kids = Meh.

reply to post by Sinnthia


A catholic priest who commits child abuse is a person without restraint, an
"anything goes" person - a liberal. Or why else do you think
conservatives teach restraint? We need to overcome the animal within.