Methane On Mars must Be Biologically Produced!, page 1
Pages: <<  1    2  >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 0 times
Topic started on 8-7-2004 @ 01:13 AM by Ixataar
This is how we can tell whether volcanoes on Mars are Active! If they are inactive (which they are), the origin of Methane on Mars must be biological!

Refer to how we interpret an Io volcano to be active;
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov... Io and Active Vulcanism; www.lowell.edu... antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov...
www.solarviews.com...

Geysers (although they can be related to vulcanism, are not always).
Gas Geysers on Comets;
dsc.discovery.com...
Volcanic Geysers on Triton!
antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov...
WATER GEYSERS ON MARS!
www.lauralee.com...

Mars is volcanically inactive!
From; www.universetoday.com...
““Methane -- which can be created naturally by volcanic eruptions or produced by primitive life -- thus may be a missing piece of the puzzle to finding out if organic remnants might once have sustained a primordial Mars. The last period of active volcanism on Mars is well before the last 300 years that methane can survive in the martian atmosphere of today. University of Buffalo volcanologist, Tracy Gregg, told Astrobiology Magazine, "the youngest surficial activity discovered to date (and it's probably 1 million years old, which would be considered quite young, and possibly "active" on Mars) is in a region that contains no large volcanic structures of any kind." Mars' gigantic volcano Mons Olympus was active until 100 million years ago.””

From; www.geolsoc.org.uk...
““He concludes that the lava could have emerged from Olympus Mons less than 10 million years ago. "The realisation that there has been recent volcanic activity is slowly seeping into the scientific community," says John Bridges, an expert in Martian meteorites at the Open University in Milton Keynes, UK. Wilson thinks the volcanoes are dormant rather than dead, and that they follow cyclical patterns of activity. The 10 volcanoes on Mars are so large that magma must flow into their chambers extremely quickly- any slower and the molten rock would solidify before the chamber was full. Given the rate that magma is produced within the planet, this could happen only once every 100 million years, Wilson says. He estimates that the Martian volcanoes' active periods last just 1 million years, meaning that they spend 99 per cent of their time dormant. That would explain why we have not seen any activity in the past few decades of observing the planet, he says.””

From;
66.102.7.104...:U-N7_sNnTBUJ:volcano.und.nodak.edu/vwdocs/planet_volcano/mars/Overview.html+Active+Martian+Volcanoes&hl=en&ie=UTF- 8
““Age Like the Moon, volcanism on Mars is very old. The mare-like plains on Mars are the same age as the lunar mare, roughly 3 to 3.5 billion years old. However, volcanism lasted much longer on Mars than on the Moon. It also seems to have changed over time. Volcanism in the highland paterae and mare-like plains on Mars stopped 3 billion years ago, but some of the smaller shields and cones erupted only 2 billion years ago. The giant shield volcanoes are even younger. These volcanoes formed between 1 and 2 billion years ago. The youngest lava flows on Olympus Mons are only 20 to 200 million years old. These flows are very small, however, and they probably represent the last gasp of martian volcanism. Thus, the odds of finding an active volcano on Mars today are very small.””


[edit on 8-7-2004 by John bull 1]

[edit on 8-7-2004 by Ixataar]


reply posted on 9-7-2004 @ 10:43 AM by Byrd
Originally posted by Simcity4Rushour
thats right the stuff we breath WOULDNOT be here if not for plant LIFE.

Not quite true. Oxygen is an element, and plants aren't nuclear energy factories. They can only combine and use what already exists. The oxygen here on Earth originally came from stars, and oxygen is a fairly common element in the universe.

In fact, we see oxygen on other planets:
www.nasa.gov...

Mars has free oxagen and is VERY high in iron giving it its RED RUST (ironoxside) look. so the oxagen must be renewed SOME HOW and is still being renewed alest within the last thousand years or there would be no OXAGEN in Mars AIR. And like i said the only know way for oxagen to be created out side of the lab is with Plant life even if its only alge.

Plants merely extract oxygen that is already present. If you put plants in a pure argon atmosphere, they wouldn't release any oxygen (in fact, they'd die because of lack of oxygen... which they also need.)

Oxygen isn't being created or renewed here on Earth.



reply posted on 12-7-2004 @ 10:40 PM by Ixataar
STUFF YOU RETARDED MONKEYS (That means FreeMason)!

Read this, then SHUT UP!

Precursors To CH4 Life (The Methane Detection Scandal)

First, a VERY INTERESTING POLICY THAT I FOUND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The OFFICIAL NASA POLICY ON “HOW TO DETECT LIFE ON MARS”! (AS of 31 January 2001);

From;
www.ibiblio.org...
“If any methane is detected, there’s a very good chance life exists on Mars”
“The British Beagle 2 lander is set to touch down on Mars in 2003, and its primary aim, like the Viking landers, is to look for life. This time, the Beagle 2 has been armed with an entirely new set of tests for life.
One relatively easy way to tell whether life has existed on Mars in the past is looking for the remains of micro-organisms. These remains will be composed of organic material that is composed of carbon compounds. However, carbon compounds can be produced by other methods than biochemical reactions (which is one of the reasons why scientists dispute the fact that ALH 84001 showed there was life on Mars). Fortunately, by looking at the different isotopes of carbon that make up the carbon compounds, you can tell whether they were produced by life, since organisms use the ‘lighter’ carbon-12 preferentially over the ‘heavy’ carbon-13.
By burning carbon compounds that are taken from rocks on the surface and examining the carbon dioxide that is produced, scientists will be able to determine the isotopic composition of the carbon, and so discover whether life existed (this will be carried out by an incinerator and a mass spectrometer).
The one experiment that will attract the greatest attention from the public is the search for methane in the Martian atmosphere. Methane is solely produced by biological processes, and is quickly destroyed by light. Therefore, if any methane at all is found in the atmosphere, we can be almost certain that life exists on Mars right now. The equipment used to perform this experiment has already proven its worth in helping us understand the process of global warming, and perhaps it will make similarly ground-breaking discoveries on Mars.”

Now,
Viking 2 Lander DETECTED CH4 in “Labeled Release” Experiment!
From;
news.bbc.co.uk...
“Biology experiments detected strange signs of activity in the Martian soil - akin to microbes giving off gas.”

From;
www.msss.com...
“The LR experiment moistened a 0.5-cc sample of soil with 1 cc of a nutrient consisting of distilled water and organic compounds. The organic compounds had been labeled with radioactive carbon-14. After moistening, the sample would be allowed to incubate for at least 10 days, and any microorganisms would hopefully consume the nutrient and give off gases containing the carbon-14, which would then be detected. (Terrestrial organisms would give off CO2, carbon monoxide (CO), or methane (CH4).)”
The Results of the “LR”;

From;
mars.caltech.edu...
“The gas exchange experiment did not use radioactive-labeled nutrients; instead it used ordinary nutrients and tested for the creation of oxygen or methane, which would be expected if plant-like organisms were present. Finally, the gas chromatograph heated the soil and tested for the emission of organic vapors.
The results were mixed. While the pyrolitic release, labeled release, and gas exchange experiments tested positive, the gas chromatograph found no organic material.”
Beagle, joins the “Club”;

From an article in July 2001;
www.space.com...
“Outfitted with the most sophisticated analysis system built to date, "Beagle 2 far exceeds what Viking was doing," Gibson said. Among its abilities, equipment on the lander can spot the presence of methane. Detecting methane would point to what amount to a Martian organism's "exhalations," a product of metabolism, he said.
"Beagle 2 has the potential of answering the life on Mars question," Gibson said.
Finding that methane signature would also shore up the notion that Mars may harbor a subsurface biota, Gibson said.”

And, from;
www.connected.telegraph.co.uk.../connected/2004/03/31/ecnmars30.xml
“Beagle 2 was designed to sniff out traces of methane on the surface, and look for other evidence of life. The gas was detected by Beagle 2's mothership, Europe's Mars Express spacecraft and by telescopes on Earth at concentrations of around 10 or 11 parts per billion. On Earth, methane released by bacteria in the ground or in animals is found in the atmosphere at concentrations of 1.7 parts per million.”

Methane, as I said (all along), is the “Holy Grail” of Life Detection on MARS.
NASA agrees with me, for once!

Can you understand this Science, you piece of #?



[edit on 12-7-2004 by Ixataar]
Pages: <<  1    2  >>    ^^TOP^^



Newfound "super-Earth"
  Posted 10 days ago with 56 member flags
Enceladus Backlit by Saturn
  Posted 4 days ago with 50 member flags
Toronto teens send Lego man into space: video
  Posted 18 days ago with 28 member flags
Current Potential Habitable Worlds - Update February 2012
  Posted 2 days ago with 26 member flags
Amazing new photo of Earth. The Blue Marble 2012
  Posted 14 days ago with 22 member flags
Stunning close view of Mercury
  Posted 3 days ago with 20 member flags
NASA Probe Captures 1st Video of Moon\'s Far Side
  Posted 11 days ago with 19 member flags