Originally posted by cybertroy
I could go over a treasure chest of information that is freely available if you like.
The phrase is "treasure trove", not "treasure chest".
What I understand, is the fact that flu vaccines don't seem to work very well.
Seasonal flu vaccines rated as effective
Pandemic flu vaccine rated as highly effective
Vero-cell and other egg-dervied flu vaccines deemed highly effective
Can you provide data that the vaccines aren't effective, or is your evidence just "well, I got a vaccine and then I caught an upper respiratory
infection, which was never 'technically' diagnosed serologically as flu, but I feel like it was anyways"?
What I understand is that this big flu pandemic, that never happened, was supposed to make everyone rush out and get their vaccine.
You mean the "pandemic" that was played up by the media (and this website), but not by doctors? Oh, right, that one.
You know you can't blame doctors for things that they didn't do, right?
I didn't have a single vaccine. I understand what I can see with my own two eyes.
I'm very glad you didn't get the flu. However, lots of people do, for various reasons. You're likely not in the high-risk groups (infant, elderly, or
immunocompromised), so it probably doesn't make much of a difference if you get the flu shot or not. But to use such poor evidence (anecdotes) to try
to convince people who DO need the shot to not get it is incredibly unethical and just plain wrong.
Go find a person who is on multiple drugs, and see how healthy they are. I can, with certainty, tell you, they are likely not
Well, by definition, someone who is on "multiple drugs" likely has "multiple problems". Why would they be taking pills if they weren't healthy? We
can't fix everything. Sometimes we can just attenuate it. Metformin will never get rid of diabetes, but some people just don't want to get off their
butt and start eating healthier (the only known ways to reverse/eliminate type 2 diabetes).
It's not worth all the extra vaccine ingredients. When these things are proven safe and effective, I might just give it a nod of approval,
but not until then.
Can you tell me which "extra ingredients" you feel haven't been proven safe?
There is no proof that they work. People are still getting sick. How is that protection?
You need to review basic microbiology. There is more than one "flu". There are dozens of strains. Just because you were vaccinated against H1N1 and
H5N1, doesn't mean you are immune to H3N2. Every strain has antigenic variation, making the vaccine less effective against that strain.
We can't currently vaccinated against ALL strains in one shot. It's just not biologically possible (though there IS a universal vaccine in
development, I believe). Until we can do this, we vaccinate for the MOST COMMON strains of that season as a means of giving the most adequate
protection possible with the technology available.
I've explained this same concept to you TWICE now in the last two posts. Which part of it is confusing you?
I'm only conveying information. I don't force you to believe it.
No, you're conveying half-truths and blatant misinformation (though, to your credit, I don't think you're lying, you're just uneducated in the field,
as shown by your 'why do we still get the flu' question).
edit on 3/8/2011 by VneZonyDostupa because: (no reason given)