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Your Theory's about the Dead Fish/Birds.

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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:13 PM

Your Theory's about the Dead Fish/Birds.

Arkansas, Louisiana, Chile, and Brazil, reports have been coming in in the past few days of bizarre deaths of birds and fish. What does it all mean? I've done some research and have theory's and I'm sure everyone here on ATS has there own. So why don't we all list them all here.
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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:13 PM
For the past few hours I've been doing some research especially the birds found on Louisiana Highway 1 near Point Coupee, Beebe county, and the fish close to the Ozark dam. Now my theory is that it may have to do with Tectonic plates/earthquakes/earth changes ect. There is a fault line called the 'New Madrid Fault', that starts in Missouri and extends all the way down to Arkansas. In December, January and February of 1811-12, three great earthquakes, all having magnitudes estimated to be greater than eight on the Richter Scale, shook this region, altering the landscape dramatically. Now to me that is a bit of a coincidense, 200 years to the month and we're having these weird things happening in Arkansas. Also according to the USGS there have been a series of earthquakes in the past week. The most recent of which was today, a 1.9 at the location of 35.288°N, 92.335°W. Now that puts that quake right in between the dead fish near the Ozark dam and the dead birds at Beeme County. Also another yesterday at the same exact epicenter between the two sites. This one was a 2.0 magnitude.

In my opinion it could be gases or contaminants coming up being caused by these recent earthqakes. Thats just my theory.
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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:15 PM
reply to post by rbaker20

I have heard the birds suffered physical trauma to their internal organs. Has it been proven this trauma took place before the birds hit the ground?

I could not even begin theorizing until I had that information.

posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:18 PM
I have a theory that they could turn this into something it's not.. H5N1

posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:20 PM
reply to post by elocin

I agree with that, I could only imagine too...

posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:22 PM
The weather has been really messed up lately. Probably from climate changes.

The birds and fish could possibly be dying of hypothermia.

posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:23 PM
reply to post by JohnnyTHSeed

the latest, preliminary necropsy results ...

preliminary necropsy results from several birds show that they died of “multiple blunt trauma to their vital organs,” though what caused the trauma remains uncertain. According to Dr. George Badley, their stomachs were empty, so they weren’t poisoned, and they died in midair, not upon impact with the ground
OP, i'll stop by later and offer a theory or two ... good luck in your adventure

posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:27 PM
reply to post by JohnnyTHSeed

Yeah a few people on here and a few news sources said the trauma happened before they hit the ground it happened in mid flight.

posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:28 PM
reply to post by Honor93

I don't see how they can determine they died in mid air.

Also, that doesn't explain the dead fish which is probably an unrelated event anyway.

posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:31 PM
I really don't have a theory on why this is happening,iI will have to wait and see if this starts affected other animals are humans,but i did mention in a another thread that i thought it strange today that i saw no birds today flying,hopping on the grass looking for food,no singing are chirping today in the morning hours.

posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:34 PM
I would agree that gasses from a quake could kill things but...Just one species of birds and one species of fish? How are gasses selective like that?

posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:38 PM
reply to post by jasmine23

Gulf Stream.

All of the gas released from the well and water pouring into it have displaced land masses. What else came up.

Think of it like an artery and then all of the smaller bloodlines.

On the African coast, fish die in masses. The cause is overfishing the anchovy. That leads to too much plankton. It dies and settles, turns to methane and releases all at once poisoning the water.


Dead fish. Birds eat fish. Birds die.
edit on 4-1-2011 by zroth because: (no reason given)

posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:40 PM
Well its obvious its from something in the air....

If it finally comes to terms that it has been the build up of years of breathing in Chemtrails, and the falling to the ground was the Trauma experienced by the birds....Then we may be next?

Maybe they were the guinea pigs? Maybe in 3 months time, we'll all start collapsing?



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:49 PM
I was really supportive of Robin Marks' fracking theory in the beginning,
however, now that it is so widespread, I am at a loss...

Corexit has had enough time to make its insidious way thoughout the globe,
and into the atmosphere, wreaking its havoc?

A bioweapon unleashed by accident (or on purpose, chillingly)?

Or nature is reaching its tipping point (the most ominous theory)...

posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 12:06 AM
You have to take into account that the people doing the examinations are interpreting what they see. If it is something they have never seen before, then they will not be able to interpret it properly.

The only thing they found in the birds, is blood clots and hemorrhages. The thing that causes those in birds is normally blunt force trauma.

So that is what they think killed them.

But you have to keep in mind that other things can cause those effects besides blunt force trauma.

If the flock has been worked into an uncontrolled frenzy, the adrenalin could get to the point that they fly themselves to death. The blood pressure will cause blood vessels to hemorrhage and form clots.

But that is not something that normally happens, so that isn’t the thing that comes to mind when they see that type of damage.

posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 12:26 AM
reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy

the fish haven't undergone a necropsy, yet.
I didn't surmise any cause (in this thread), just posted the most recent medical results available because other posters commented the info was needed.

to answer you, specific biological changes occur upon death which allow the specialists (Dr Badley in this case) to make such a determination (dead before they hit the ground).
** note: multiple blunt trauma to vital organs usually indicates Internal Bleeding, not external force.

posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 12:35 AM
If the birds were caught in a whirlwind, could the centrifugal force cause the injuries seen in the birds?

On second thought, that would produce external damage to the birds that would be very apparent.
edit on 5-1-2011 by JohnnyTHSeed because: debunked myself

posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 01:35 AM
2)gasses from the earth preceding earth quakes.
3)Fort Bliss BIO/Chemical test.
5) the end.

posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 01:44 AM
I just posted on another thread that I just read on godlikeproduction's website that many people are reporting GPS and their compass was off by 180 degrees. If HAARP is messing with earth's magnetosphere/ionosphere. than that would explain everything. And apparently local witnesses around the Gakona, AK facility alleged that they are firing huge amounts of EM radiation onto the earth's ionosphere. I'm no expert in this stuff, but I've read a lot about what this can do to the birds and wildlife.

posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 02:15 AM
reply to post by rbaker20

I just found this and this seems to be the reason why these wildlife deaths are happening, as well as being linked to 500 earthquakes in Arkansas and also why John P. Wheeler III was found murdered - an American hero who tried to put a stop to it. We don't hear it here in our Country but leaked from a report prepared for Prime Minister Putin of Russia.........*(I will try to edit it down but you can read the full story at the link at the end).

FAAL: Top US Official Murdered After Arkansas Weapons Test Causes Mass Death

A shocking report prepared for Prime Minister Putin by the Foreign Military Intelligence Directorate (GRU) states that one of the United States top experts in biological and chemical weapons was brutally murdered after he threatened to expose a US Military test of poison gas that killed hundreds of thousands of animals in Arkansas this past week According to this report, John P. Wheeler III, Special Assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force, Washington, D.C. from 2005-2008, when he became the Special Assistant to the Acting Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Installations, Logistics and Environment, was found brutally murdered and dumped in a landfill, and as we can read as reported by the Fox News Service:

“Delaware Police are investigating the apparent murder of a former Bush official who also championed the fund-raising effort to build the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on the Mall in Washington, D.C. Wheeler’s body was found in Wilmington on Friday.

According to police, somebody initially reported that the body was dumped out of a refuse truck, which would have been coming from Newark, onto the landfill. Newark Police spokesman Lt. Mark Farrall told Fox News that nobody had reported Wheeler missing before he was found.

Wheeler’s military career included writing one of the most important manuals on the effectiveness of biological and chemical weapons which led to his being hired in 2009 as a consultant to the Mitre Corporation, whose aviation system development department, the GRU reports, is at the forefront of creating the computer command and control systems used by the US Air Force in their fleet of aerial spraying planes. [photo 2nd left]

These aerial spraying planes, this report continues, are based at the Little Rock Air Force Base in Arkansas that over the past few months have been involved with ‘test dispersants’ of poisonous gasses in the Afghanistan War Theater using chemical weapons stocks obtained from Iraq and held at the Pine Bluff Arsenal, also located in Arkansas.

Important to note about the Pine Bluff Arsenal, which calls itself “America’s Arsenal”, is that it is one of the World’s most specialized munitions and chemical-biological defense products and services bases which Russia had previously accused of not fully reporting the chemical agents removed from Iraq, between 2003 and 2008, and taken to the US for testing and subsequent destruction.

According to this report, the US relocated from Iraq to the Pine Bluff Arsenal an estimated 63,000 metric tonnes of the poisonous gas Phosgene that is described as one of the most feared chemical weapons ever used due to its ability to literally cause the lungs and respiratory system to explode.

Nearly immediately after Russia accused the US this past summer of not fully destroying Iraq’s Phosgene poisonous gas stockpile the Pine Bluff Arsenal began an ‘accelerated’ disposal programme injecting it deep into the ground in central Arkansas, but which, unfortunately, since this past September, has caused over 500 minor earthquakes to occur raising the concerns of their local population.

More frightening, however, is the claim made in this report that the Americans have also begun shipping ‘massive quantities’ of Iraq’s Phosgene poisonous gas stocks to Afghanistan where when used they will be able to say they had nothing to do with it, and believe no one will be able to prove it either.

Important to note about Iraq’s Phosgene poisonous gas stocks are that they are no longer able to be made by any Western country, including the United States, which makes its value as a Weapon of Mass Destruction (WMD) incalculable, especially in a war situation like Afghanistan where the enemy forces are firmly entrenched in hostile terrain.

To the direct reason for Wheeler’s murder, this report says, was this past week’s transport of Iraqi Phosgene poisonous gas aboard a US Air Force KC-767 tanker aircraft from Little Rock Air Force Base enroute to Afghanistan that shortly after takeoff had a ‘critical malfunction’ of its aerial spraying computer directed command and control system over central Arkansas causing the deaths of thousands of red-wing blackbirds.

According to US reports an estimated 5,000 of these birds were killed outright and were quickly removed by US Environmental Services workers wearing hazmat suits and gas masks. Another US report states that cause of death to these thousands of birds was “trauma in the breast tissue, with blood clots in the body cavity and a lot of internal bleeding” which this GRU report states is consistent with Phosgene exposure.

Even more chilling than this incident is this GRU report stating that it was the second “accidental” release of Phosgene poisonous gas in as many days, as the day before, this same US Air Force KC-767 tanker aircraft also had a “critical malfunction” causing a release over the Arkansas River that killed over 100,000 fish.

Upon Wheeler discovering what was happening with Iraq’s Phosgene poisonous gas stockpiles, this report continues, he traveled from his home in Delaware to Washington D.C. where he openly confronted and threatened to expose the Pentagon and White House Officials responsible. Being a Vietnam Veteran who was responsible for having the famous memorial to that war erected, Wheeler was more than knowledgeable about the United States massive chemical and biological attacks in that conflict and had vowed to not let happen again.Sadly, but all too common in the United States these days, when Wheeler threatened to go public with what was happening he was targeted for death, and as a “sign” to anyone else thinking of going against the regime, had his body dumped in a garbage pit for all the World to see. (edited)

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