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why does the US not take the UFO phenomenon seriously?

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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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On a related note, it is not that the US government doesn't take the subject as seriously as other nations but other nations do not take it as seriously as many UFO proponents would like to believe. This can be seen as a microcosm of the UFO field. Exaggeration and misunderstandings, purposeful or accidental, are common in the field, hand-in-hand with ignorance.




posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by tiger5
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Well look at it this way.. No first look at the Youtube evidence. Actually I don't think they have the time to pile through mountains of crap. Maybe 5% of sighting are legitiamate. Not a good way of spending time. Left to me they would only investigate UFO that register on radar.

Now I expect some expert to post that radar images are not necessarily a credible creteria for UFOs.

Anhyway I am really fed up with the state of UFology.
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As you appear to be expecting, radar signature or lack thereof may mean nothing. Since we have stealth technology it would stand to reason the ultra-tech does also.



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
If there ever was a real government cover up, and I believe there was, there is no need for them to spend any money or time to really cover it up any more. We do it for them at no charge by making sure this subject remains the laughable joke that we have allowed it to become. Since the average taxpayer can't take it seriously, I don't think the government is really worried about "disclosure", lol.

I wish that weren't true. In the main I agree with you. I think most cover-ups these days are of past cover-ups which drags the subject further into confusion. If anything the US government seem quite happy with the general confusion and stupidity.



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 07:26 PM
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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 08:12 PM
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maybe US politicians and the general public don't take the subject seriously if only because of how well the campaign of disinformation has caused the UFO phenomenon to lose all credibility. There is a faction within the US military industrial complex that is spending literal billions on UFO technology. R&D on military hardware is in high demand. They are very serious about this technology and disclosure would make the gas/oil/electric companies bottom out once the public get their hands on free energy. None takes the subject more seriously than the US military industrial complex.

Other countries haven't disclosed a flying squirrels turd by the way.



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by Erongaricuaro

Originally posted by tiger5
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Well look at it this way.. No first look at the Youtube evidence. Actually I don't think they have the time to pile through mountains of crap. Maybe 5% of sighting are legitiamate. Not a good way of spending time. Left to me they would only investigate UFO that register on radar.

Now I expect some expert to post that radar images are not necessarily a credible creteria for UFOs.

Anhyway I am really fed up with the state of UFology.
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As you appear to be expecting, radar signature or lack thereof may mean nothing. Since we have stealth technology it would stand to reason the ultra-tech does also.


Yes but the bulk of the sighting occured before we had the stealth technology. ANd yet we do have instances where radar tracked UFos. Perhaps this is a richer seam to mine. I confess I have lost some interest in the UFO field due to the cultists, hoaxers and scamsters.



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by ReginaAdonnaAaron
This won't last for much longer. Yahweh is already making His name known via the various Natural Disasters around the world. Soon there will be no doubt as to who is behind them. And the nations will be rocked off their foundations.


the 'Yahweh' character sure sounds nasty.. what with all that destruction and mayhem... What's up with that?





Yahweh, our God and Creator pours out His wrath upon mankind leading up to Armageddon. It is His will that you all know exactly where it is coming from.


Now why would anyone in their right mind worship some ET entity that only wants to annihilate you. Sounds a little silly to me




posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 08:40 PM
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I just figure the pilots don't like to fill out paperwork and have to take a sanity test if they don't have to. If the plane is in no danger of a collision with a UFO, which never has officially happened as far as we know, then the pilot can safely fly the plane and save some extra work, plus avoid having to deal with the media coverage and such...


It is the airline companies that probably give the pilots a hard time too, because the US government will probably send some men in black to incessantly interrogate the pilot, copilot, air traffic controller, passengers, etc all kinds of questions too, and then make them sign a non-disclosure agreement as well.
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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 08:55 PM
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i definitely agree with you on most points. it's unfortunate that it has turned into the joke that it has but as i'm sure you know the information released by other countries has some facinating accounts by plenty of credible trained military personnel and flight operators. i wouldn't say that doesn't add anything to the subject, at least for those who take this subject seriously. i know there are plenty of probable reasons why the US government isn't showing interest in UFOs but i think it goes further than not showing interest just because they don't have to. the simple fact alone that a pilot is at risk of losing his job in the US if he reports a UFO sighting is very strange and leads me to believe that this is more that just a coverup.
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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 09:52 PM
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I seen on TV a few years ago where the Brazil military showed UFO footage they had on the evening news. Now that was the military that gave the footage to the news to air and they said point blank that they did not know what it was and they did send fighter after it and it took off and left the fighters like they were sitting still..

That is something you will never see happen in the US. Even closed mouth Russia had said they have sent fighters after UFOs. They have never said what they have if anything from an UFO but they do admit that UFOs do exist.

The US government knows a lot more about UFOs that it is telling. The funny thing is they would be better keeping the secret if they at least pretend to care more about UFOs than they are now.



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok

I know it has been speculated that perhaps they are covering information up in order to prevent mass chaos but they can see by example set in other countries that generally people don’t panic due to the release of this sort of information.


There was a time when the US took it VERY seriously... Grudge and Sign, for instance...and even Blue Book, initially. However, there was then a shift in Blue Book to explain everything away. Since then (well, since the Condon Committee really), any government interest in UFOs has been behind closed doors.



I agree, mass panic is not an issue. Here in the states the government actually likes to cause panic, ya know those terror alerts after 911 and nothing happening. Some people claim the government is using Hollywood to disclose with films on ET. Well if that is the case then again they are trying to scare the bejesus out of people because they are all horror flicks. But that would be silly.

They are in fact serious about it since they went black, seriously still interested just not talking for some reason Like that giant craft over stephenville with birds in the air "denying they had planes up" for all to see and many argue those are stage craft meant for a psy ops campaign to pose as alien craft.

1. Chase the UFO then deny it

2. Escort the UFO then deny it

Not a very good job covering it up. They must know they cant shoot down space ships the size of a Super Wall-Mart. So why bother sending up birds... Make it more obvious? Oh it's just a residential area.

Like i said in another thread recently, I think they intentionally screw up covering up events like roswell. Because i have a hard time thinking the military or army at the time was so incompetent about the incident. Changing the story, even resurrecting attention in the 1990's saying it was a balloon, then changing it again saying it was test dummies "operation dummy drop" lol. Anyone that has served in the service knows protocol, procedure and that the Military is a bit more serious handling things. So the explanations are as dubious as the claims of ET visitation.

I mean 60 years later they still cant decide what it was? It appears they are intentionally making themselves look bad for some reason. I can speculate why, is it their way of giving us the nod YES without incriminating themselves? There is no method to the madness. Or maybe that is the whole point. Swamp gas is code for "alien craft" no need to wink or give you a nod. What is not obvious? If they told us apples are oranges would you question them? Of course. Would they suspect you wont believe them? Of course.
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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by quantum_flux
I just figure the pilots don't like to fill out paperwork and have to take a sanity test if they don't have to. If the plane is in no danger of a collision with a UFO, which never has officially happened as far as we know, then the pilot can safely fly the plane and save some extra work, plus avoid having to deal with the media coverage and such...


It is the airline companies that probably give the pilots a hard time too, because the US government will probably send some men in black to incessantly interrogate the pilot, copilot, air traffic controller, passengers, etc all kinds of questions too, and then make them sign a non-disclosure agreement as well.
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My father worked as a FAA investigator, then worked as an air Traffic Controller. When he worked at the tower in Phoenix during the 1970's until early 1980's they tracked "unknowns" in the area often. The FAA frowned on talking about it and he felt he would lose his job if he stuck his nose out. He got the same treatment when he piloted a fighter plane in WW2, seen unknown lights over the pacific. Well they weren't "japs or krouts" he said. But he was told not to talk about it amidst a war taking place? I think he knew more than he led on as he was a test pilot in the 1950's and 60's. He said UFO's were real and that was enough for me. So coming from a pilot of such caliber and observation THEY take it serious. For "what if's" the FAA and other government agencies sure try very hard to ignore these things. Ignore the elephant in the room it will go away



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by ReginaAdonnaAaron
This won't last for much longer. Yahweh is already making His name known via the various Natural Disasters around the world. Soon there will be no doubt as to who is behind them. And the nations will be rocked off their foundations.


the 'Yahweh' character sure sounds nasty.. what with all that destruction and mayhem... What's up with that?





This is more Semetic fear mongering "join our church or die" kind of crapola. So basically God created us with faults/free will so that this planet is Gods chess board to amuse his omnipotence with, sends His son Yahweh down to kick arse like stone cold steve austin to enforce his sadist pleasures all all like "that's the bottom line" because im Yahweh!

And the evil shadow government is zapping these holier than thou characters like Yahweh with tesla beams, like some flash gordon saturday morning cartoon "black triangles vs Yahweh n the boys"


Preposterous, and amusing in some sick way... these types.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 02:45 AM
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the united states seems like the only ones to keep ufos a secret versus any other country because they're involved with them and they know what the real deal is. you need to know what you don't want to be found out, in order to protect it



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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Why So Serious?


Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
If there ever was a real government cover up, and I believe there was, there is no need for them to spend any money or time to really cover it up any more. We do it for them at no charge by making sure this subject remains the laughable joke that we have allowed it to become.

And there's the Grand Irony of it all: that the greatest enemies of true disclosure are those who claim to seek the "truth", yet cling to and promote any and every obvious falsehood imaginable.

As long as there are enough "true believers" pushing nonsensical garbage with such religious zeal, there is no need for nor benefit to any sort of official accountability for so much unexplained phenomena.

Why feed people cake who are content to eat crap?

UFOlogy is to UFOs what Scientology is to Science.

As long as it remains so, there is no danger whatsoever of any form of meaningful disclosure.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by Majic

UFOlogy is to UFOs what Scientology is to Science.



Love it



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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I dont know why they dont, this is huge but im new and cant make my own thread.

I was just in the kitchen at 845pm or so Orange County Ny today 1/5/11 and a giant ass saucer craft just flew over my house. 3 people in the kitchen with me, made them all run out the front door and see this thing. Maybe cicular, huge, couple hundred feet across, looked like white lights on 3 or 4 corners. Moving slow, vibrated my house with a loud humming as it floated over. Crossed over the neighbors yard across the street slowly moving, wayyy to slow to be a plane. Went forward for another minute then made a swoop to the left (heading north) and went over the ridge. This is the single largest thing i have ever seen in the sky, had other people check it wiht me to make sure...its ridiculous, if someone can make a thread about it maybe, i had to post it in case anyone else searches for it, this is nutty.

It slowed moved over my house humming, when it reached the front i went to the window and saw it about 300ft up maybe and directly above me progressing Northeast, light gray color with some darker gray areas, made me think start trek texture of the ships. White lights only, the were blinking somewhat, no red at all, took off speed exponentially once it made the turn...

ive been staying up on the one in chili and the birds and all that other stuff, ive never never seen anything like this and cant think of a better place to put it...hopefully someone in the hudson valley sees this thing....or feels it.



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 08:19 PM
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Because they like having control of everything.

LOL

The universe goes beyond the U.S. hahahahha
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posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 08:20 PM
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Hello Ziggy

I would bet all my earthly possesions (which is not much btw) that no government has taken the ufo subject as seriously as the United States, a completely different subject is disclosure, something that will probably happen very slowly and gradually if it ever happens...

From my neck of the woods (southamerica) I can tell you that the U.S. takes much interest in anything related to UFOs, they have taken part and investigated sightings here since the sixties....

Nevertheless governments here are beginning to be open about the subject, very gradually, but it is happening, maybe not much reports get to the international press, and therefore you don't get to see news about it.

All the best,

Camilo



posted on Jan, 5 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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Pictures ? videos? what are cell phons for?



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