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'Full Metal Jacket' drill instructor apologizes for calling on Americans to 'rise up' against Obama

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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 10:12 AM
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'Full Metal Jacket' drill instructor apologizes for calling on Americans to 'rise up' against Obama


www.rawstory.com

The foul-mouthed, hard-nosed drill instructor made famous by Stanley Kubrick's classic war film "Full Metal Jacket" ruffled some feathers early last month for commenting at a charity event that President Barack Obama wants "to bring this country to its knees" and institute "socialism."

His proposed solution: "Rise up" and "stop this administration" from "destroying this country."

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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 10:12 AM
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Heh-heh...

This guy is known as a pull-no-punches type of individual.

But were his words misconstrued, or taken out of context? Was he suggesting REVOLUTION? Or did he simply mean to rise up and get involved with the political side?

His points had relevence in terms of them continuing to bankrupt our country, but driving us into socialism? To me we're looking more like a FASCISM based environment with the continued spying and draconian TSA and DHS nonsense going on.

Should he have apologized for his comments, or would you feel he spoke the truth? What options ARE we being left with when each successive admin keeps gutting this country financially? Listen to his speech and weigh in:



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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 10:19 AM
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He said what he felt. If it offended someone maybe they need to go back to mamby pamby land and get some back bone.

Semper Fi !



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 10:21 AM
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You've placed a false dichotomy...

You've said "Should he apologize or did he speak the truth?"

What you forgot was... "Should he apologize for his opinion"

Personally, no, I don't believe he should apologize for his opinion unless of course he has changed his opinion.

Simple as that.



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 10:35 AM
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God bless that man and that movie. Ever since seeing it as a kid I knew I wasn't going in the military. Every time the recruiter would call me when I was in high school I'd tell them about full metal jacket. lol
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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by HunkaHunka
What you forgot was... "Should he apologize for his opinion"
Personally, no, I don't believe he should apologize for his opinion unless of course he has changed his opinion.
Simple as that.

I'm in agreement with that.
He has no reason to apologize.
star 4 u



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 10:42 AM
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Atleast he's a true patriot. I'm afraid this country is running a bit thin on those who voice their opinions.
I'm surprised he didnt suggest that the current administration sucked golf balls through garden hoses either!



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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He said what he felt, but he also has a lucrative TV and Commercial career. He doesn't need any backlash that could cost him an income.

I think he probably meant "rise up" however it needed to be construed. Politically would be preferable, but most (including the Constitution) can agree that violent opposition could become necessary at some point in the future. Surely nobody wants a violent uprising, but it is important that we make the political avenues work, or eventually violence could end up being the only solution. Some would even say that the government continues to strike first with violent violations of our liberties, such as "sealed warrant" paramilitary raids on homeowners for minor infractions.



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security. Thomas Jefferson
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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 10:52 AM
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Points of that could be debated though.

THIS country IS being bankrupted---Of that I doubt very few here would say ISN'T the truth.

Although I agree, most of this was his opinion.

Personally, I feel we are WAY beyond this being a single admin type of thing---This ENTIRE system is being rigged by special interests. All one has to do is look around at the past several DECADES to see what has happened. It has gotten worse and worse, and more blatant than ever in the past ten years though. The corruption has sky-rocketed beyond comprehension.



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:09 AM
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I agree with you. Since when is opinion such a bad thing to have. This PC world we live in needs to stop being such cry babies.

For reference to your post and mine.



I love this commercial I laugh every time I see it.

"Maybe we should just chug on over to mamby pamby land."


Raist



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:25 AM
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Depends on what exactly he apologized for. He is entitled to his opinion, however foolish it may be. But calling people to rise up could be seen as sedition. To save his career and possibly his freedom (unlikely he would lose it, I know), it was probably wise for him to apologize.
edit on 4-1-2011 by InvisibleAlbatross because: Spelling, but I was already quoted. Sigh



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
Depends on what exactly he apologized for. He is entitled to his opinion, however foolish it may be. But calling people to rise up could be seen as sedition. To save his career and pissibly his freedom (unlikely he would lose it, I know), it was probably wise for him to apologize.


And not just sedition....

Treason, Mutiny, Disloyalty, etc.

Like it or not Obama is still Commander in Chief.

A clear case of Mr Ermey letting his ideology get in the way of his common sense.

Look for Mr Ermey to retire from the entertainment biz shortly as this incident will not be looked upon favorably by producers regardless of his apology. Not to mention the Big Dogs at the DoD if he is still in the Reserves.

If Obama wanted to score some points; he should accept "Gunnys" apology in a gracious manner. That probably won't happen.
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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
Depends on what exactly he apologized for. He is entitled to his opinion, however foolish it may be. But calling people to rise up could be seen as sedition. To save his career and pissibly his freedom (unlikely he would lose it, I know), it was probably wise for him to apologize.
As a American citizen he has no more reason to apologize than Helen Thomas does for her opinion.

Just the other night I heard someone criticizing the American people for doing all this economic "Suicide" to themselves. He insist its all the American peoples fault for wanting more and more and more. But when I hear people spouting their opinions I just want to ask them how much research have they done in the subject?

Who taught the American people to put their head into the Economic "Noose", who made it look good to own 2 cars, 2 houses, and demand higher wages?

Answer, a criminal network of bankers and host of bit players.

To Drill Sergent Ronald Ermey, research the reasons for our countrys birth in the first place, and the federal reserve, and you will know who the real domestic enemy is!

Here is a video that even a "Drill Instructor" can understand. Full version.


edit on 4-1-2011 by All Seeing Eye because: Edit to add exceptional, and simple video.



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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In late December 2010, Ermey used a Toys for Tots rally to criticize the Obama administration's economic policies, citing that it was difficult to raise money for the charity because the "economy sucks" and went on to say:

"We should all rise up, and we should stop this administration from what they're doing because they're destroying this country. They’re driving us into bankruptcy so that they can impose socialism on us, and that’s exactly what they’re doing, and I’m sick and damn tired of it and I know you are too."


So here's the deal.... why make his stand at a toys for tots rally where' he's a spokesmen for quite the number of org's

PS: Good Ole "Gunny" is not his officall rank, he never made it above SSGT...
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posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:58 AM
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Friggin Jackwagons!!



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 11:59 AM
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Have you ever been to a Toys 4 Tots rally?

It is the perfect place to make such a statement!! Big military presence, big biker presence, and mostly conservative crowd. The "liberals" do their fundraising at theaters and dinner parties, the conservatives do it at bike rallies and Harley stores and barbeque joints! (I know, I know, huge generalization, but it is still pretty accurate.)



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 12:02 PM
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My honest 2 cents.on it is..

He said what he meant and meant what he said.

He apologized to keep from losing TV & movie work.

Anyway - another interesting thing is how the author of the article took a quote apparently from someone in the audience and used it devote about a 1/3 of the article space talking about Fox News. Which as far as I can tell didn't have anything to do with this?



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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The first Amendment guarantee's persons freedom of opinion and expression.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Under this right, there is no found evidence that would suggest sedition, treason or anything of the like. Just because someone doesn't approve of our President or anyone else of the like, doesn't immediately suggest a crime has been committed.

It's people like you with your thought process that is the problem. With your logic, we need to " label " and " tag " all Americans with a crime for making an opinion an all government officials, like them or not.



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 12:23 PM
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Also, an additional thought and addendum to this being "sedition" and illegal.

Isn't one of the precepts and rules of the military to rise up against all enemies, both foreign AND DOMESTIC?

Now I think he was referring to americans in general, but he did mention the marines a couple of times in this speech, so he may have been trying to light a fire under everyone's behinds.

But my question is:

If our country IS being hijacked and destroyed by a gov and their Elitist controllers, would this TRULY be called sedition to discuss rising up against such tyranny?

Not making a statement, just asking the question....
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