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Zionism: WW2, Middle East conflicts, and Islamophobia

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posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 09:48 PM
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World War 2



The general consensus about World War 2 was that it was heavily based around the nations of Great Britain and United States coming to the rescue of the innocent peoples being devastated by the tyrannical states of Italy, Japan, and Germany. These states were operating under Fascism and were invading and taking over entire nations for global domination. But have we ever truly been given the other side of the story?

A regular argument in court requires the jury to hear both sides of the story as only one side giving the evidence with little to no evidence or argument allowed from the other side leads to a one-sided jury easily convinced by one side of the argument. The truth is that in court something such as that would never be acceptable but in history books and among the general academic acceptance this one-sided argument is accepted or is forced.

But since us here on AboveTopSecret love to claim that we deny ignorance shouldn’t both sides of the story be told to us? We have all heard the side of the British and the American governments, their reasoning for the war, and why they had to stop Hitler. We hear their side on the issue of what the goals of the Germans and Italians were, specifically the Germans. Hitler was said to be a raging lunatic hungry to seize the entire European continent by force and purify all the people to install a strictly Aryan race of ‘superior’ individuals.

Okay so we have a general understanding of this side of the argument due to Western historians and governments. So what does Hitler’s side of the argument say? Why did he decide to invade other countries, what was his motive, and what did he want as a conclusion?

I have put this thread in SkunkWorks so as to not claim it as absolute proof, it is highly speculative and is left up to the reader to come to their own conclusions on this thread. I encourage everyone to research this for themselves, take it upon you to learn the truth and the hard facts of this tragic historical event.





You have hopefully viewed those three videos by this point or else what I will be talking about shall make little to no sense to you.

Against International law the United States consistently attacked and raided German merchant ships and arrested its passengers. America also sunk German submarines and navy vehicles as well out in the oceans. They virtually took over Iceland and Greenland where the German navy used as practicing grounds. Launching economic warfare against the Axis through means of tariffs, seizures, sanctions, and playing around with their currency and debt.

Adolf Hitler rose to power because of the Western influences that resulted from the First World War and the resulting Treaty of Versailles. This treat led to serious anger among the ethnic groups that were split apart and nations divided up as well as forced to pay huge reparations which led to enormous economic instability and depression among those nation states.

Germany lost extensive territory to France, Luxembourg, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Poland, and Russia. Hungary too lost extensive land to Czechoslavakia, Austria, Italy, Yugoslavia, Romania, and the Ukraine. Millions of ethnic Hungarians were locked into countries that belong to other ethnic groups. Millions of ethnic Germans were locked into other countries too. This led to anger not only in the newly displaced Germans and Hungarians but also among those who were still within the confines of their own nation.

The Germans felt battered, extorted, and humiliated by the events following the First World War. Democracy was then placed in the Weimar Republic and within a decade the economy had collapsed and hyperinflation had ensued. Economic displacement and critical political instability was then made worse by the Germans coming to the realization that much of their economy was being bought up by the wealthy Jews of Europe. Fears of a Communist revolution were also rampant in Germany with the Reichstag Fire, which turned out to be a red flag.

With the widespread knowledge that the Russian Revolution was supported and backed by the international bankers who were furious at the Russian Tsar for refusing them to establish a central banking system under his kingdom. The new ideology of Communism was installed leading to the seizure of all public property and soon after the mismanagement by the corrupt bureaucrats led to one of the worst famines in Europe.

The Germans were deeply opposed to any future under Communist rule which they saw as growing more likely by the day. And since Jews were heavily involved with European banking at the time, nearly overwhelmingly Jewish, the immediate threat they had seen to their entire nation was from the Jews. Displacing ethnic Germans, forcing Germans to pay overwhelming reparations, buying up their economy, and then a looming threat of a Jewish Communist Revolution had sent the Germans into a furious rage.

Coinciding with this rage was a political party which promoted and fumed the flames of a hostile and furious German nation. Seeing the results from Benito Mussolini’s Fascist revolution in Italy and the purging of non-patriots appeared more interesting to the German people who were still reeling from the loss of an entire generation of young men just ~15 years prior.

Hitler and his National Socialists quickly stormed to power with the message of a new and brighter future for a disillusioned German nation. Promising the restoration of the former glory and boundaries of Germany, Hitler set out to establish a political and economic system which was focused on hard work, national interests, and Aryan superiority. Soon he set out on a conquest to establish German boundaries which extended to all areas that had at least a significant German minority.

This led to the invasions of Czechoslovakia, Poland, France, Belgium, Netherlands, and Denmark-Norway. However uniting the German ethnic peoples under one nation was not the sole goal of Adolf Hitler. He wanted to exterminate the perceived threat to the peoples of Europe, specifically the Germans, by eliminating Communism from Europe and Jewry.

Invading the Soviet Union was his worst mistake, a communist nation backed by the American and British governments proved to be too overwhelming for Hitler. With Italy and Japan being pushed back his expansion was coming to an end. His dream of removing the threat of a Jewish persecution, oppression, and takeover of the European people was coming to an end.

Soon Nazi Germany was being pushed back by the Allied forces, which were receiving heavy money from international bankers forced the Germans back into Germany where they would then be conquered and Hitler ‘supposedly’ dying of suicide in his bunker.

Little is told to us about the true history that Germans were furious over the redrawing of their national borders and forced reparations which were too large for any nation to truly pay off. Little is told to us about Hitler’s reasons for conquest other than him just be a tyrannical dictator hell bent of global takeover. We are not told about the constant attacks upon Germany at sea which was in violation of international law.

If we are to believe what is told to us by our current government and academia then why are they leaving so much important information out? Why do they mention FDR “wanting to keep peace” yet constantly creating and spending money on hostile and provocative attacks against Japan, Italy, and Germany?

It could be argued that FDR was working on behalf of the Zionist bankers against these nations, spending countless money on provoking conflicts in Europe and East Asia which would have to lead to a war so as to not make FDR look like an absolute fool. If there was never a war then the money spent by FDR on threats and provocations against the Axis would have destroyed the legitimacy of the American government in not only the eyes of Americans but of the world.

Is there any legitimate defense for the mass murdering and genocide by Hitler and Nazi Germany? No, because genocide against an entire ethnic group is abhorrent and absolutely wrong. Was his analogy of the problems facing not only his nation but the world correct? Well it depends on which side of the argument you want to choose. The side which gives you the one-sided information, central banking control, and the argument that “We don’t know why Jews are hated”, or the side which gives you the option of a fair argument, populist revolt, and the argument that “Can dozens of different ethnic groups spanning more than a millenium who have proclaimed the same enemy have all been wrong?”

The position I am siding with does not say that all Jews are evil nor should they be exterminated. The side that I am on makes it clear that the Zionists have been and currently are in control of our governments, media, intellectuals, and finances. They dictate our policies and enslave our people. They corrupt cultures, nations, and governments. Their belief in their religion of Judaism is so skewed that it mirrors the terrorists of Al-Qaeda. It is the side which says the ordinary Jew is of no threat to you or I and is just as much enslaved by the Zionists as any of us are.

Hopefully you have seen that Zionism is what Hitler was trying to destroy. His analogy was correct but his actions were wrong. We need to restore the West from the grips of the Zionists but this does not include mass genocide. Our people are enslaved by the Zionists and our workers tricked by the slick and deceitful promises of corrupting ideologies such as Economic Liberalism, Liassez-faire capitalism, and Economic Socialism/Communism.

Middle East conflicts



“I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”
Former Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon


Just 2 years after Hitler’s death the Zionist state of Israel was established in British Palestine. The borders were drawn up so that Palestine and Israel could function in harmony with each given their own respectable share of the territory. However this did not last long as once the Jews began to flood the new nation of Israel the anger among the fellow Arabs become extreme.

Once again a region where anti-Semitism was for a long time very limited even though the area had a rather large Jewish population a new uprising had begun among Arabs, an uprising against the Jews. This anger culminated in the Six-Day War where Zionist Israel seized extensive territory which has never been handed back to those who originally and rightfully owned that land; the Palestinians.

With the new concentration of Jews now located in the Southeastern Mediterranean instead of in Central and Eastern Europe new peoples were forced to deal with Zionism and its effects. These effects happened quickly leading to major instability in the region. Israel which was backed strongly by Western powers such as America, England, and France soon became the most powerful nation in the region.

Following just a few years after the Six-Day War was the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the Revolution in Iran which was then followed by American intervention in Lebanon, Iraq-Iran War, and Soviet-Afghan war. This signaled a new era in the Middle East where Iraq was used as the buffer to Iran, Saddam Hussein was so supported by the American government that he was even given a key to the city of Detroit in the 1980’s.

Iran was long considered an American ally until a popular revolution led by Ruhollah Khomeini overthrew the CIA backed Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlazi. Iran had never invaded or threatened any nation in centuries yet they were then invaded and attacked by Iraq whom was supported by the United States just 1 year after the Revolution had taken place. Arguably you could say that Saddam had been ordered by America, thus Israel, to commence the war so that a new regime more favorable to the Zionists could be re-established in Iran.

When that failed in 1988 after 8 years of warfare against Iran, Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 sparking the Iraq-Kuwait War leading to US intervention on the side of Kuwait against America’s former ally Saddam Hussein. Quickly Hussein became the enemy of the United States and in 2002 Iraq was invaded on false charges of Weapons of Mass Destruction leading to his overthrow. It’s obvious that this war was not just about the oil but was either in retaliation to Saddam’s failure to overthrow a newly powerful Iran or in Saddam’s possible drifting away from control by Washington and Tel Aviv.

The entire idea of the nation known as Iraq was insane to begin with. It was to unite three rivaling groups; Kurds, Sunnis, and Shi’ites. This dream was an epic failure from the beginning since Iraq was virtually split into three demographic areas; South Shi’a Islam, Central Sunni Islam, and Northern Kurds. Shi’ites makes up roughly 60% of the population and the Sunni make up 30%. Saddam Hussein was a Sunni Muslim who used his power to oppress the majority Shi’ites in Iraq and commit genocide against the Kurds.

With this growing instability in the Middle East due to the Zionists which make up America, Israel and Europe, we are beginning to see a new early 20th century ‘Europe’ coming alive in the Middle East. With the threat of war looming over their heads every day and further violation of Palestinian territory the threats are becoming more real. With the war in Iraq coming to a close America will have a new proxy in the region to try and keep at bay the Iranians who are growing more powerful by the day.

Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Qatar, Kuwait, Jordan, Iraq, Israel, Egypt, Turkey, and Afghanistan all being united in a single idea; Opposition to Iran. How long will the Arabs and Central Asians tolerate being a proxy by the Zionists? With their economies booming and culture being drastically changed by Western materialism there will be a bust in that boom just as there always is. When this bust comes it may come in many forms.

World War 1 was started by a single assassination, although the groundwork had already been laid just as it is now in the Middle East. It would be easy for a major regional war across the ME to explode into ethnic violence, cleansing, rivalry, and revolution. Or could the First World War in the Middle East have already occurred? Has the wars by Israel, Iraq, United States, and Soviet Union been the ‘First World War in the Middle East’? If that is the case and the groundwork for a second and far more dangerous ME war have already been laid?

If there has already been the first ME war and the second one is soon to come then who could we expect to spark it? The Zionists never like to start wars they just force nations to start it instead so they are not to be blamed for it. The current sanctions on Iran which have proved futile could only be the beginning of what could lead to the final straw which break the camel’s back and launches Iran into it’s own axis.

Other questions would then be raised? Who would their other ‘axis’ members be? How would the war occur and when? So many questions and quite possibly so little time before the Zionist machine finally force the world into another either major regional war or all out world war.

Islamophobia



“One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail.”
— Rabbi Yaacov Perrin (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6)


And now we come to quite possibly one of the fastest growing social issue of our time; Islamophobia. It is currently on the rise throughout the Western world, especially in Europe. The Muslim, specifically Arab and Turkish populations, are currently under assault by furious Europeans seeking to punish those whom they believe are ruining their economy and changing their culture.

I first want to let it be known that I do not support the mass immigration of Muslims into Europe nor do I think Western culture should be in anyway harmed by an external source. We have been put into this position by the Zionists, yes I know getting tired of the blame game, eh? But the truth is the Russian Revolution was supported by the Zionists and it was a ‘Communist’ revolution.

The current effects on society from politically correct, multiculturalism, and social progress stem from Socialism/Communism which met up with and combined into the entire front of Social Liberalism which has been accepted and enforced in the West by parties on both the Left and Right. This silences any debate on the questions of immigration, culture, tradition, and religion which forces it into the shadows where it can grow into dangerous resentment and fury which can and will boil to a head when extreme economic and/or military troubles arise.

What does this have to do with Zionism you might ask? Well since this politically correct rule has been enforced on our society and the experiment of multiculturalism the citizens of the West have now become irritated and frustrated with the large influx of Muslim immigrants. Since they are unable to talk about these problems in an open arena of ideas they have been turned into hostility towards the Muslims which falls in line with what the Zionists want.

They could never have their wars if the people of the West didn’t make an enemy out of Islam. Obviously Muslims had to become the threats to the Western world with their evil Sharia Law and Islamic practices. But never mind the Zionist lobbies and Zionist control over your government, culture, academia, foreign policy, and media, yes please ignore that and instead argue about those evil Muslims.

The truth is that those of us, such as myself, who are opposed to mass Muslim immigration are treated horribly by those who believe we are racists for wanting to retain our culture. But we cannot let this get carried away, we must attack the politically correct culture of Liberalism/Socialism and its roots which are directly acquired from Zionism.

Zionists are wearing a mask and hiding behind it very well. Distracting you with the argument about Islam and Muslims, scaring you with Muslim terrorists, seizing your civil liberties, sending our troops to die in wars for their interests, and letting us keep up their mask by turning against Muslims. The Muslims are not the threat, this is a ploy, it’s a Trojan horse, the Zionists are using this to distract you.

In the modern world today you can talk bad about Muslims and be attacked by the Left but if you talk bad about Jews and/or Zionists you are attacked by everyone except the ‘Far-right’ whom are attacked and labeled Fascists without any proof.

Islamophobia is a ploy, do you get it now? If you are out raging about the Muslims taking over you have been fooled. Open your eyes to what is happening. How did these Muslims get here?

Well Immigration controls were loosened and multiculturalism was accepted and enforced through politically correct, but who started politically correct? The American Liberals, International Socialists and Communists, all of which support Globalism, but who started Globalism? The Socialists and Communists, specifically those who came to power during the Russian Revolution, but who supported those who came to power during the Russian Revolution? You got it! The Zionists!

You see now how this works? Do you see how you have been fooled and distracted from the truth? Well I hope you do.




I strongly encourage everyone to research all of this on your own, do independent research, it’s up to you to prove it to yourself. Do not take my word as gospel. And if you find yourself at odds with this OP and care to post a reply in disagreement please try and be constructive and not a simple reply such as “Anti-Semite” “Bigot” or other useless and ignorant posts which I will either ignore or report.
edit on 1/3/2011 by Misoir because: (no reason given)




posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 09:55 PM
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Well thought out post OP
there's definitely a lot of truth out there but most people won't want to see and acknowledge it.



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 10:15 PM
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I really like the thread.
I was telling a guy at work the other day that I thought that the slaying of the Jews was too convienient. I know that this post will rattle the nerves, but lets face it all you hear about WW2 is the slaughter of the Jews. I think that Hitler was working for the powers that be and was close to the NWO that the Illumnati wanted. I think that the Jews staged and let the holocaust happen to gain future power. Now guess what? If you even question the Jewish mentality, you are antsematic, cannot even speak of the Jew. Now Israel thinks it is indestructable and is pulling the U.S. down with it.
Sorry if my views upset anybody, but I believe that WW2's mainstream purpose was disinfo for the masses. I do not think that it is ok to slaughter people, no matter what the cause.



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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I have to agree, no matter what the circumstances, both sides should be heard. Will continue to read, since I've had many questions regarding this situation, somethings that are just never fully explained, dunno if anyone knows what I mean.



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir

“Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves.”
Former Israeli Prime Minister Menechem Begin


Except Begin never made that quote.... you start your thread with a lie, then continue with the normal lies and bull# of a anti jewish rant..



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 10:38 PM
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Okay I just checked it and you are correct the quote is a FAKE. Thank you for pointing that out. However the rest of your response is completely incorrect.



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 10:40 PM
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What a load of ****.

Sure you don't want to throw in some more speculative BS?

I'm not seeing the connections here that you're trying so hard to make.

This is like reading about alien anal probes which are locators, so that the person can be raped and milked for decades by an alien race of reptiles, but are frequently abused by gray plaids.



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 10:47 PM
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Their hands were also in WWI from what I understand. Armenian genocide, and getting palestine out of the hands of arabs and into british control.

This has been in the plans for a long time.

Yes that quote might have been fake but rabbi's have said far worse, especially lately.



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 11:10 PM
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If I may jump in for a sec. I must say I admire when someone is brave enough to admit when one has made a mistake and acknowledges it. My sympathies, since I doubt dereks will respect your admission, to some human imperfection is unacceptable. This thread like others on ATS are about sharing knowledge and for many revealing and bringing to light things that may have been obscured. When I read the title, I thought, "wow, very interesting, worth a look!" but at the same time I knew some would take it wrong and wind up calling you and anti-jew or anti-semite. I am not one to make such judgements and I don't believe anyone else does either.

Delving deeper into this matter, as I posted above, everyone should at the very least hear the other side of the arguement, wether they like it or not. Either way, I doubt you are trying to paint the Nazi's as saints, and I will continue to read bits and pieces I have not much time at the moment I am doing about 25 things at one time! lol

anyway, keep up the good work!



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 11:18 PM
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You mean like this? takimag.com...



posted on Jan, 4 2011 @ 10:17 AM
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Wow just read that nws report:


“Any Jewish woman who goes with an Arab should be killed,” announced one rally speaker.


Sounds just as radical as the extremists on the other side!

I'm diggin' the counter protests though:


Reppin’ for the other half of Israeli Jews, leftist counter-demonstrators toted signs with such charming taunts as “I LOVE ARABS—ASK ME HOW,” “IF YOUR SISTER IS AS DISGUSTING AS YOU, WHO WILL HIT ON HER?” and “IF AN ARAB HITS ON MY SISTER I WILL ASK HIM IF HE HAS A BROTHER FOR ME.”


Brilliant!



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