So what if there is no devestating kaboom that happens in 2012, what if it comes slowly like little things starting in 2011.
This fish and bird kills in Arkansas sounds like a start. I mean 5000 birds just drop and thousands of fish on new years eve. I dont know but it made me think about it, like "sign's"
Hope not but ya never know!!

According to some sources, http//www.mayanmajix.com. And the Ra material Law of One, 12-21-12 is the wrong date. Ra states the"Harvest" will occur in 2011. Mayan Majix sets the date as 10-28-2011. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. No worries, just get your house in order spiritually. PEACE & LOVE to you all.

Playing Devil's Advocate...

What if it is the start of a long string of events; created by man, to convince the people of this world that the end is near.

I suggest to everyone, to keep faith, be patient, and not give in to dangerous emotions.

So says R.

Sadly ANY event that is SO small that is going to happen in 2011 people are going to jump the gun on the 2012 stuff. Heck if the pope farted on tv people are going to be like "OMG the end is near!".

You can't base a small odd event on the world ending.

I still see no physical evidence the world is even close to an end. Since the beginning of time humans were afraid of the end. Yes storms are stronger but storm's do work in cycles. The earth getting hotter.....come on it's been snowing like crazy here.

Mainly I'm saying. Let's not jump the gun on this so quickly this year.

There can be many many factors those birds died. I've heard mustard gas was being tested in the area they flew over. So it possibly could be that.

Let's all go outside and quit worrying about this 2012 crap. Yes crap!

If anything happens in 2012 (or whenever it is, 2012, 2011 or 2901) i think it will be a man made disaster.....It will either be some sort of a government thing or people will start to panic for no reason, and people will be murdered....stores will be looted...all that fun stuff



or a zombie apocalypse.

I actually seen this on the new yesterday or today lol. I am no scientist but what they were saying on the news was that the cause for the birds to die was lightning. Lightning??? i can understand alot of the birds dying from it but birds dying in the thousands, and coincidently over 100,000 fish end up dead washed up, seems like somethin fishy is goin on.

If it was just the birds the the lead poisoning thing would probably be believable. But with all them fish also washing up, something is not right...

Originally posted by madhadder545
So what if there is no devestating kaboom that happens in 2012, what if it comes slowly like little things starting in 2011.
This fish and bird kills in Arkansas sounds like a start. I mean 5000 birds just drop and thousands of fish on new years eve. I dont know but it made me think about it, like "sign's"
Hope not but ya never know!!

These bird kills and fish kills smells of the military testing their exotic weapon. Scalar beam wave, electromagnetic pulse wave, you name it.

Originally posted by AuirOverrun
or a zombie apocalypse.

Yeah, that will work. Zombies are cool. When the cows and pigs and chickens runs out because the oil has stopped and it begins to look like there won't be any more of anything for a while, heck yeah, it will be just like in those flesh eating zombie movies. So, stock up on emergency survival garlic and hang it on your front door to indicate you're home and prepared and waiting for the zombies (lol). Oh, and stock up on some potatoes and carrots too, I hear zombies like that with their roast also. Oh oh oh, and get some of those portabello mushrooms too, please, they're my favorite, if that's not too much to ask of you all too. And thanks, you see, with a little cooperation and a few unselfish volunteers, we can turn a bad day into an entertaining day for at least a few of us that are into zombie movies. Yeah, a zombie ending would be cool, better than a nuke which is over before the fun has even started.

There is nothing here but a lot of unwarranted speculation.

These die offs are actually small in comparison to disease die offs. Recently there have been salmonella and other disease die offs of birds in the eastern US associated with bird feeders. That's right it is the general population enjoying birds and causing their deaths. Spit transferred between birds at feeders caused massive die offs of some species. Another die off a few years back was due to feeders and eye infections. The affected birds received a non life threatening infection that temporarily blinded them. The puffy eyed birds did not die of the disease, but rather starved to death unable to feed themselves. West Nile has decimated some bird species such as ravens.

These die offs are relatively small compared to the hundreds of thousands that died due to disease spread at feeders. Everyone with a feeder should regularly wash and clean their feeders including the use of things like bleach that will ensure that viruses are removed from the feeders.

Thinking that group die offs that do happen and have happened in the past are somehow heralding in the hoax called 2012 is simply unwarranted.

either 2012 or WW3 will get you..i prefer 2012 so bring it on MAYANS!!!!

The world will end with a whimper not a bang,just something i heard i think the deaths of the birds and fish are just the beginning,the whimper?

Who cares? If 2012 (or 2011, whatever) does occur, then we all should just stop working and enjoy whatever is left on "life" on this forsaken planet before the SHTF. But why worry about those alleged dates, when you've got "reality" to contend with - family, work, health, etc?