Originally posted by corsair00
however, a few of us have just offered "new" information about this that is worthy of attention.
As I said above I was reading Vallee’s remarks you posted, are here some of my thoughts and opinion regarding some of his remarks.
A remarkable event took place in late December of 1980.
A strange object was seen on the ground by a security police group at a joint Royal Air Force/U.S. Air Force base in England called Woodbridge.
As a guard at Woodbridge Base, an American named Larry Warren said that he saw a UFO land in the forest. Dozens of other military men
and a few civilians saw it, too.
The commanding officer allegedly came out and interacted with the three occupants of the craft.
There is no doubt, based on the documents in the affair, and on the very extensive investigation conducted by Jenny Randies, Dot Street, and Brenda
Butler—and published in their book Sky Crash (London: Neville Spearman, 1984)—that an extraordinary event did take place that night.
But far from being an actual UFO, it may simply have marked another step in the deception.
The yellow remarks are important and notice that Vallee said, it may simply have marked another step in the deception.
It may, so its just his assumption, nothing more.
DELUSION OR DECEPTION?
The English investigators have presented convincing evidence that the various explanations offered to the public for the Bentwaters case— allegedly
caused by the beam of a distant lighthouse and some bright stars—were utter rubbish.
I fully agree with Vallee here, because I also found the distant lighthouse explanation utter rubbish.
The mechanism of the cover-up seems to be consistent—moving extremely rapidly, the intelligence agencies sweep all the evidence and, if
necessary, secure the key witnesses.
If word of the event leaks out, the normal military chain of command operates to keep any controversial document out of public hands.
If that fails, then the intelligence agencies go into a confusion mode characterized by three simultaneous interventions:
1. They trot out their team of debunkers (astronomers, skeptics or "rationalists") who seize upon any available explanation; the more absurd the
2. They "oversell" the UFO explanation, always emphasizing the extraterrestrial interpretation. For example, if an object has been seen on the ground,
they will make sure the media give prominence to the wild-eyed witness or the local contactee cult member who will claim that he has received a
message for mankind, so that the entire affair is quickly blown out of proportion.
3. They start leaking some correct information to the investigators but mix it with confusing elements regarding the date, the time, and the identity
of the witnesses.
All these elements are demonstrably present in the Bentwaters case, and they can be found in other military cases as well.
I fully agree with Vallee’s first remarks and point 1 and 3 here, but not entirely with point 2, because I have the impression that “they” do
not always "oversell" the UFO explanation by emphasizing the extraterrestrial interpretation.
I have the impression that they do precisely the opposite.
To me the most plausible theory is that the U.S. military has developed a device or a collection of devices that look like flying saucers,
that they are primarily intended for psychological warfare, and that they are being actively tested on military personnel.
I fully agree with Vallee here, that the “U.S. military” has developed a collection of devices that look like flying saucers, which if I am
correct are called ARV’s.
However, I do not believe that such in fact extremely secret devices were/are in the hands or in control of the regular “U.S. military” but in the
hands or in control of a once in time separated extremely secret department of the military.
So because of that and the witness testimonies about that triangular object and that second object with beings in and around it, I do not believe that
those extremely secret devices could have been used for that by Vallee asumed psychological warfare over there.
And then this, do you really think that “they” would have been so utterly stupid to go playing around with some sort of psychological warfare in
that wooded area, so therefore fooling around with so many military men during two or three days while they had a large stockpile of nuclear weapons
at the base?
I simply do not buy that.
And then the following, it’s claimed by the witnesses that the sighting of that second object with those beings was filmed, so if it was all nothing
more then what Vallee think it was, why would they not have debunked it all away by simply showing these films years later?
Or was it that they could not have done that, and never ever will do that, because it would have undisputable confirmed the story told by all these
So I still stick to my opinion, those men were definitely involved with something that was not of this Earth, whether it originated from another
planet/space or another dimension.
edit on 9/1/11 by spacevisitor because: Made some corrections and did some adding