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The Bentwaters case [in which American servicemen at an Air Force base in England observed a disk-shaped craft land in the forest] is a classic. At the landing site, they had a mix of ordinary guards, officers, sentries and so on--they all had orders to go to the site under a scenario. And that's not what would of happened if the encounter were real--if a strange object landed on the base you wouldn't be sending out a hundred people without weapons. The thing has all the earmarks of being staged for the benefit of the witnesses, so that they could be studied and the reactions of the different psychological types and of different ranks could be studied. And when you think about it, it's not that weird. If you were in charge of a project like that, you'd have to test it in conditions where nobody is danger and you can get the data you need. In cases like this one--not many but a few of them--that I investigated, I had to conclude that these were tests of virtual reality projectors.
Source: Heretic Among Heretics: Jacques Vallee Interview
Originally posted by clay2 baraka
Vallee is a very intelligent man, so I must conclude that he based his assumption theory without reading the facts of the case.
Originally posted by SANDPIPER
Jacques Vallee is unique! He knows >>way more
Originally posted by The GUT
The reading gets a lot more interesting than the two links below, but I don't want to take the time to find the other well-researched ones if you're not interested in considering the hypothesis as proffered by Vallee in your link.
(snip)
If you're willing to consider further, I'll dig the other articles up.
Originally posted by The GUT
As to why I say I believe that Jacques Vallee knows more than he is willing to say...more on that later
Originally posted by clay2 baraka
My first thought before reading your comments was that Vallee's explanation doesn't add up. There were geiger counters used detected radiation levels that were many times above normal background levels. I doubt VR projectors could simulate radiation. .
Vallee is a very intelligent man, so I must conclude that he based his assumption theory without reading the facts of the case.edit on 1/3/2011 by clay2 baraka because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Pimander
reply to post by MikeboydUS
Has anybody got any good evidence of alleged staged UFO incidents or E.T. encounters?
CIA, under its assigned responsibilities, and in cooperation with the psychological strategy board, immediately investigate possible offensive or defensive utilization of the phenomena for psychological warfare purposes both for and against the United States, advising those agencies charged with U.S. internal security of any pertinent findings affecting their areas of responsibility. www.deeppoliticsforum.com...
The Pied Pipers of the CIA
...In short, Menger’s story was a CIA experiment to see how easily and whom specifically could be fooled into believing anything.
More significantly, it is now known that Adamski was the same: he was not only encouraged in his work, but actively supported and assisted, by the CIA.
This became known – though not widely reported when scientists attempting to investigate Adamski's claims (in an effort to discredit him and stop him in his tracks) were warned off by CIA Director Allen Dulles in person. And research has shown that during tours of Europe and Australia to promote his “message”, Adamski travelled on a passport furnished by the CIA. www.philipcoppens.com...
To anyone who still failed to see the importance of the 1955 memorandrum, Vallee added that “the Pentacle proposal goes far beyond anything mentioned before. It daringly states that ‘many different types of aerial activity should be secretly and purposefully scheduled within the area’. It is difficult to be more clear. We are not talking simply about setting up observing stations and cameras. We are talking about large-scale, covert simulation of UFO waves under military control.”
www.philipcoppens.com...
Originally posted by MikeboydUS
Originally posted by clay2 baraka
My first thought before reading your comments was that Vallee's explanation doesn't add up. There were geiger counters used detected radiation levels that were many times above normal background levels. I doubt VR projectors could simulate radiation. .
Vallee is a very intelligent man, so I must conclude that he based his assumption theory without reading the facts of the case.edit on 1/3/2011 by clay2 baraka because: (no reason given)
Any electromagnetic projection is radiation.
Eyeburn, from radiation, has been one of the traits usually involved in a sighting of cryptids, UFOs, apparitions, etc.
Originally posted by The GUT
What did you think of "the lone chemist" piece, btw?
This could get fascinating, so I hope more folk will join in with their take & info. Back later.
Davidson felt that Adamski himself reported tell-tale examples of government “steering” – and was aware of their involvement: “Late in 1949 four men came into the café at Palomar Gardens. Two of them had been in before and we had talked a little about the flying saucers. We began talking about flying saucers again. One of these men was Mr. J.P. Maxfield, and another was his partner, Mr. G.I. Bloom, both of the Point Loma Navy Electronics Laboratory near San Diego. The other two men were from a similar setup in Pasadena. One was in officer’s uniform. They asked me if I would co-operate with them in trying to get photographs of strange craft moving through space… And finally the moon was decided upon as a good spot for careful observation… And it was not too long after this meeting that I succeeded in getting what I deemed at the time to be two good pictures of an object moving through space. I first saw it as I was observing the moon.” What an amazing coincidence, that a UFO appeared where these military officers stated Adamski should look towards…
Source: A Lone Chemists Quest to Expose the UFO cover-up
Originally posted by Pimander
However, I do have serious doubts about this statement he made during an interview.
In cases like this one--not many but a few of them--that I investigated, I had to conclude that these were tests of virtual reality projectors.
Source: Heretic Among Heretics: Jacques Vallee Interview