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John Wheeler - Dead

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posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 08:07 PM
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Recent article I found....


But law enforcement sources say the murder was apparently not related to his government work.

"It's got us totally confused," said Dill. "At this point I couldn't even give you a theory."

SOURCE


Really?

Further...


Police haven't said how Wheeler was murdered or even where he was actually killed. They are looking at a legal battle with a neighbor -- but friends say they can't imagine that dispute would have led to his death.



Still going with the neighbor dispute eh. I just do not see that as a theory....but again, hardly have any facts to go on since LE are being mum on it all.




posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Wow. Those "Law Enforcement Sources" must be good at their job, to have gone through this man's gargantuan resume in so few days, and be able to make a proclamation as sweeping as that!
In This Thread, by StealthyKat, she posts a link from The Times Record News, from Wichita Falls, TX:
Cameras Plentiful Where Del. Man's body Dumped
Quoting from above link:



NEWARK, Del. (AP) — Whoever dumped the body of a prominent national defense consultant into a garbage bin in a bustling college town risked being detected, either by witnesses or surveillance cameras, with some of the containers in well-lit parking lots, near restaurants and stores.


In the article, they try to pinpoint, by process of elimination, a dumpster on the truck's route that would enable the criminals to stealthily dump Wheeler's body.

But later in the article, they mention white latex gloves, found in one of the dumpsters:



The first stop was a bank in College Square shopping center. Two trash bins at the rear of a bank are just yards away from two surveillance cameras and in sight of several storefronts and a heavily traveled road.

Inside one was a pair of white latex gloves, similar to those used by police evidence technicians.


This is the only source I have seen for these gloves... are there any other sources that mention them?



posted on Jan, 6 2011 @ 09:24 PM
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Great Van Susteren is discussing this case now on Fox.....she is usually really good about covering cases such as this.



posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 12:45 AM
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According to this report,




On Dec. 29, Wheeler entered the parking garage wearing what appeared to be a sports coat. The next day, Wheeler was spotted wearing a dark colored zip-up hooded sweatshirt, police Lt. Mark Farrall said.
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On a conversation thread about West Point and college football, Wheeler wrote:

"And absolute football corrupts absolutely. NCAA is all about football money ... To Hell with the NCAA and its corrupting Money Game ... West Point should pull out of the fraud-ridden NCAA."


www.usatoday.com...

To me it's just like a spy thriller, where a person discovers they are being pursued, they start checking their clothing and shoes, etc for tracking devices, they try and stay in public places, and figure a way to obtain new clothing. I his case, he managed to find a dark hooded sweatshirt. Doesn't sound like his regular outfit. Didn't go to the cops after claiming to have ben robbed, didn't call anyone for help, didn't respond to emails.

The last thing he wrote on the 28th on a forum with his alumni, was this quote about how the NCAA is a corrupt money game. Seams like if this wasn't cryptic, or inspired/venting due to some other mores serious thing he was upset about or knew about, it is at least evidence that this person is against corruption, fraud, and money games. This makes one think if he had known something to do with corruption, fraud, etc, he might be the type to go public, leak secrets, or fight against it in some way.

My best guess is that he was targeted for a reason involving him being fed up and trying to do the right thing, in the face of some kind of corruption.
edit on 7-1-2011 by freemind500 because: to include source



posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 01:44 AM
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Moderators - can we get the title of this thread changed. This is HUGE. This needs to be top member pick.

It should be a similar name to the headlines the story is making in the news:

Top US Official Murdered After Arkansas Weapons Test Causes Mass Death

www.eutimes.net...



posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 01:50 AM
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Sounds like the Police just want this case to disappear as fast as they got it. The John Wheeler case has to be kept alive until every stone has been turned upside down.



posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by bluemirage5
Sounds like the Police just want this case to disappear as fast as they got it. The John Wheeler case has to be kept alive until every stone has been turned upside down.
Noticed how fast they got that pharmacist and her story out not to mention the security video footage? They do want this to disappear.It seems that this case is opening a can of worms.



posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by corsair00
Moderators - can we get the title of this thread changed. This is HUGE. This needs to be top member pick.

It should be a similar name to the headlines the story is making in the news:

Top US Official Murdered After Arkansas Weapons Test Causes Mass Death

www.eutimes.net...


www.abovetopsecret.com...

They might be interlinked, but then again i may be wrong.

p.s. the term assassinated is not widely used and when used it used for a purpose.
edit on 7-1-2011 by tristar because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 05:30 AM
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To comment on the above, I recall a related piece of info else where...

Taken from an external quoted source, discussed within another post on ATS;



"powerful members of Congress are again pushing legislation that would give the executive branch a new tool to hide its mistakes permanently."



09/05/2001 - Updated 08:02 PM ET
Government secrets

Should the same government that conducted outrageous radiation and biological-warfare experiments on unwitting citizens have the power to hide such abuses?
news source



OARP



posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 09:17 AM
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I think it is a conspiracy but I think he killed himself. I think he felt very much guilt or something and was not able to stop something. His behavior was strange, I think he planned to dump himself in the heap as he killed himself somehow. He supposedly send smoke bombs to the house across his street, I think he might have sent those smoke bombs to Annapolis Maryland goverment buildings too.



posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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Originally posted by rubyeyes
I think it is a conspiracy but I think he killed himself. I think he felt very much guilt or something and was not able to stop something. His behavior was strange, I think he planned to dump himself in the heap as he killed himself somehow. He supposedly send smoke bombs to the house across his street, I think he might have sent those smoke bombs to Annapolis Maryland goverment buildings too.


You think he killed himself after he placed himself inside a garbage container?

Can you please expand on your theory of him killing himself and how it could have been accomplished?



posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 01:17 PM
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UPDATE:

Police are now saying that devices found in the neighbor's house are connected to Wheeler.
Also, his cell phone was found inside the neighbors (still in contruction) house. (heard on news....searching for online sources to link)

Still does not explain his odd wandering around the city and his death.

The mystery remains....
edit on January 7th 2011 by greeneyedleo because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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Can people please stop posting links to that eutimes.net / Sorcha Faal article - which is considered a known hoaxer source on ATS? It's been posted more than a few times on this and the other Wheeler thread.

The phosgene bird-death red herring comes from a hoaxer. And now I am seeing mainstream news stories using this as the standard 'conspiracy theories' about Wheeler, as if it were the only amateur sleuthing into his death.

In fact, John Wheeler's friend wrote on the Atlantic today:


Anyone following this story is aware that there has been a parallel discussion, at sites I'm deliberately not linking to, that has resolved all mysteries with one sweeping conspiratorial explanation. To sum up this (far-fetched) view: it is "no accident" that Wheeler died around the time of the also-mysterious mass death of birds in the Midwest. The birds were the victim of a military poison-gas test (or leak, or whatever); Wheeler, a one-time Pentagon staffer and a recent Mitre corporation employee, obviously "knew too much" about the evil plans; and so he was eliminated near the headquarters of (naturally) the DuPont corporation, which manufactures exotic chemicals.


Fallows is being disingenuous, or uninformed here, because the "Phosgene" theory is not an actual conspiracy theory put together by independent researchers - it's a fake Russian GRU intelligence report printed by someone known to fake stories for web traffic, or whatever.

He even describes how the Chinese state media somehow picked up this Sorchal Faal nonsense and served that up as their official version of what happened!



posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 01:24 PM
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Good article....


John P. Wheeler's murder investigation by Newark, Delaware Police Department can't afford to get sidelined by red herrings in this case.
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Red herrings in the Pentagon and ex-Bush aide case include John's erratic behavior. The Delaware police have stated that they know of no known mental or physical health conditions that would have caused it.



Further....


Another red herring--how John got from Point A (Wilmington AMTRAK station) to Point B (the Pharmicist in Wilmington) to Point C (the New Castle County Courthouse) to Point D (Hotel du Pont) and on to Point E (Nemours Building) is throwing investigators off their game.

John Wheeler's transportation method isn't the issue other than to tie into his murder, since his body was most definitely transported some distance from his last known location.




Newark PD have a man making it into town on the day he was expected to and dead three days later.

They have someone in his home who wore workboots and had John's television up on a high level for days, but remained "unseen" by his neighbors.

Wheeler's death investigators have knowledge that John was not imprisoned at any point from the time he arrived in Wilmington on the 28th until he was last seen at the Nemours Building.

The former Army officer moved about freely and chose not to go to his residence--staying at Hotel du Pont, in his own words.

John Wheeler had money, sufficient enough to pay for a hotel and carry around $120 on his person, obviously

Law enforcement personnel in Delaware also have the knowledge about the exact cause of death of John P. Wheeler III and the exact time of death, which they aren't sharing with the general public. So they have enough information to successfully work this case.

Red herrings in this case make for titillating media conversation, but when it is all said and done John P. Wheeler's murder investigation won't be solved by focusing on the red herrings.


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posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 01:46 PM
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Interesting! The cell phone found in the neighbor's house is very new. The fact they found a smoke bomb in the Marini's house was reported several days ago, but I don't recall them linking it to him before.

Delaware Online has put up a good resource of all their reporting on the Wheeler murder mystery.

Cellphone update


Action News has learned that the police now have Wheeler's cell phone.

A source tells us they found it in the house under construction across the street from Wheeler's home in New Castle.

Police have been looking into the possibility that Wheeler may have set off smoke bombs in the house last Tuesday night.


The same article also says - contrasting earlier articles - that it was the Investigators who ripped up the floorboards, not that they found them ripped up.


Investigators have removed floor boards near the kitchen sink in Wheeler's home and have surrounded the area with evidence tape.


Or is this a different part of the kitchen? There were earlier reporrts, related to the loud TV noises for several days, saying police on the seen found removed floorboards at the scene.

They also found a boot print in the kitchen.


They also dusted the kitchen floor for shoeprints which reveal someone was inside with what appears to be work boots with a knobby tread.


Do they fit Wheeler's feet? He already had one strange outfit change.
edit on 1/7/2011 by Nicorette because: cell phone link + other clues



posted on Jan, 7 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by rickyrrr
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How is this for speculation: He knows the true reason why those birds and fish turned up dead (bioweapons test gone wrong, accident involving poison gas spill, or something along those lines) then he is killed to keep the lid on the whole affair. Time frame, location and overall areas of involvement for this guy line up with this hypothesis.

-rrr


I do believe that there is a connection. I thought so right away. However, didn't someone murder him right before the birds and fish were killed?



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:26 AM
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Maybe our truth comes from EU-rope

www.eutimes.net...

Top US Official Murdered After Arkansas Weapons Test Causes Mass Death


New REPORT 1! Birds and Fish are now Dying all Around the World
New REPORT 2: Not Just Birds and Fish but Now People Dropping Like Flies
A shocking report prepared for Prime Minister Putin by the Foreign Military Intelligence Directorate (GRU) states that one of the United States top experts in biological and chemical weapons was brutally murdered after he threatened to expose a US Military test of poison gas that killed hundreds of thousands of animals in Arkansas this past week.


Phosogene

According to this report, John P. Wheeler III, Special Assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force, Washington, D.C. from 2005-2008, when he became the Special Assistant to the Acting Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Installations, Logistics and Environment, was found brutally murdered and dumped in a landfill, and as we can read as reported by Fox News:

“Delaware Police are investigating the apparent murder of a former Bush official who also championed the fund-raising effort to build the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on the Mall in Washington, D.C. Wheeler’s body was found in Wilmington on Friday.

According to police, somebody initially reported that the body was dumped out of a refuse truck, which would have been coming from Newark, onto the landfill. Newark Police spokesman Lt. Mark Farrall told Fox News that nobody had reported Wheeler missing before he was found.


Europe is more forthcoming with News

According to this report, the US relocated from Iraq to the Pine Bluff Arsenal an estimated 63,000 metric tonnes of the poisonous gas Phosgene that is described as one of the most feared chemical weapons ever used due to its ability to literally cause the lungs and respiratory system to explode.

Nearly immediately after Russia accused the US this past summer of not fully destroying Iraq’s Phosgene poisonous gas stockpile the Pine Bluff Arsenal began an ‘accelerated’ disposal programme injecting it deep into the ground in central Arkansas, but which, unfortunately, since this past September, has caused over 500 minor earthquakes to occur raising the concerns of their local population.

More frightening, however, is the claim made in this report that the Americans have also begun shipping ‘massive quantities’ of Iraq’s Phosgene poisonous gas stocks to Afghanistan where when used they will be able to say they had nothing to do with it, and believe no one will be able to prove it either.


edit on 8-1-2011 by canadiansenior70 because: fix URL



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:31 AM
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Please read before posting this thing AGAIN. Suspicious number of people keep posting this link, they never have any interest in John Wheeler case just making sure everyone sees this Sorchal Faal link though!



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 01:51 AM
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Please, the bird deaths and the death of Wheeler are not related. This type of speculation makes all of us here at ATS look like tin foil hat wearers!

The bird deaths are a mystery of their own, they are world wide, not just in Arkansas, and have continued to occur since the death of Wheeler. Jeez.



posted on Jan, 8 2011 @ 02:28 AM
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NEW CLUES ON WHEELER CASE!I know i know its ABC NEWS but its linking it to the dead birds, HAARP and mentions the 'elite'!!!
This is awesome news! millions of people say this, ive been saying this is what happening with the dead animals and guarrentee its not just happening here....
Dont know how long itll take to view the video, its being SO slow for me, on account of im sure MILLIONS are trying to view it right now

full episode but very important!
edit on 1/8/11 by kyeleigh because: new link


Ok, so i guess they dont 'link' it i spoke to soon (just now loaded for me) but it puts it out there so now people will research it. the make sure to say "not the views on ABC news" they only wish they could tell the truth! it must be the most researched theory than, THATS GOOD
ALSO this shows Palin 2012 (ehh) and how she wants new 9/11 investigation, interesting, but im not holding my breath!
edit on 1/8/11 by kyeleigh because: more info



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