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reply posted on 3-1-2011 @ 09:53 AM by CIAGypsy
OK....LET'S REITERATE THE FACTS:

1. 100,000 drum fish die off in Arkansas river around Ozark in a 20 mile stretch
2. 5000 blackbirds die off around midnight on NYE in Beebe in a 1 mile radius
3. Ozark and Beebe are approximately 125 miles from each other.
4. The Arkansas River does NOT go anywhere near Beebe.

Some assumptions can be made:

1. The blackbirds did not eat the fish. Black birds do not eat fish! They eat berries, insects, and seeds. Also, if the fish were really the culprit, then other species that DO eat fish - such as buzzards and eagles would have died off too. Further, that would make the river "ground zero" and all animal deaths would be in a radius from that location. This is not the case.

2. Fireworks are unlikely to be the culprit in the bird deaths. If this were the case, there'd be millions of birds dying off every 4th of July. This would also not explain the occurance within a 1 mile radius which is too big for it to be "fireworks."

3. Lightning is also very unlikely. First of all, there was no lightning in the area of Beebe and the bird deaths that evening. Second, as someone else already mentioned, there would be telltale damage such as fried birds. There were no fried birds. Other than the ambiguous "physical trauma" (which could have come from falling), we don't know what the condition of the birds was. However, when you review the television footage, it is apparent that the birds are NOT fried.

4. Don't know where the duck comes into this...but your theories are hilarious and humor is ALWAYS welcome!!

5. Toxins - this is also unlikely unless we can determine what killing agent would be specie-specific.

6. Seismic activity - the swarm earthquakes are happening between Guy and Greenbrier Arkansas. This location is about 50 miles from the location where the birds were killed and even farther from where the fish were killed. Again, it doesn't explain why the birds died in Beebe and not up around where the seismic activity actually occurred. However, it IS interesting that the fish deaths, earthquakes, and bird deaths ALL OCCUR IN A STRAIGHT LINE, although this may be completely coincidental.

7. Magnetic anomaly - this is an interesting concept and one that needs to be explored more deeply. That being said, it doesn't explain why only one species of bird and one species of fish would succumb to it. The Arkansas River is full of many species of fish....not to mention all the different species of migratory bird that make Arkansas their winter home. Again, it doesn't add up...

8. EMP - This, I think, is so far fetched that I can't believe someone actually said it. If Iran...or any other hater....is going to do an EMP, I really dont' think they are going to choose BEEBE ARKANSAS. At the very least, they would do it in LA or New York...or even DC. And, if they were going to do it in Arkansas, my guess is they would pick the Chemical Depot at Pine Bluff or even one of the nuclear reactors.....but not a little town that has no strategic value. Furthermore, no one in the town reported any communications disturbances...so that can pretty much rule out this scenario.

9. Prophetic - um....I'm not touching this one.

10. Classified military project - this is my bid. And considering that there is a military base not 20 miles from the site, I think it is very plausible. Is it possible that the military tested some DNA-based weapon on both the fish and the birds?

11. Completely unrelated events - this should be considered too....
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reply posted on 7-10-2011 @ 10:29 AM by foxhoundone
reply to post by Pervius

Or the USA military satellite system "bright eyes" which is compatible with the air defense system..
From Military today.

“Some U.S. military satellites are equipped with infra-red sensors that can pick up the heat generated on earth by trucks, airplanes, missiles, and cars, so that even on cloudy days the sensors can penetrate beneath the clouds and reproduce the patterns of heat emission on a TV-type screen. During the Vietnam War sky high infrared sensors were tested which detect individual enemy soldiers walking around on the ground..


reply posted on 7-10-2011 @ 10:46 AM by JIMC5499
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Don't rule out lightning so fast. The birds may not have been electrocuted by lightning, but still may have died because of it. Lightning superheats the air around it, which causes the air to expand at high velocity. As this air expands it pushes cooler air in front of it. This can cause a wave of air similar to a concussion wave from an explosive, which may have caused the death of the birds. There doesn't need to be a thunderstorm to create the lightning (heat lightning) and if there was an overcast it may have not been visible from the ground.


reply posted on 21-12-2011 @ 12:46 PM by yesimurfreak
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horse hockey you dont cull birds with posion you do it with dawn dish soap in the winter. in the dead of night on the coldest day you fly over them with a crop duster full of water and dawn dish soap. you spray them the dawn washes all the oils of their feather and bodies hence causing them to freeze to death in the middle of the night. atleast thats how i know of it being done. and truthfully the only birds i know of this being done to is english swallows. they are not natural to america they were brought here by a home sick english bloke in the late 1800's just a pair he said. well they as far as i know are probably the most evasive avians in the country.flocks by the million as the farmers say lol. they tear crops to hell.
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