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Pakistanis rally over blasphemy law

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posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by inforeal
Christianity is and has been the most violent religion in history by far.


It would appear that you are misinformed.

It has been estimated that Jihad has killed approximately 270 million people over the centuries.

120 million Africans
60 million Christians
80 million Hindus
10 million Buddhists

You didn't know that did you?


Now imagine how many people have been killed by Christianity and Islam combined over ridiculous excuses like blasphemy, sin, witchcraft and disobedience to authority. One would think Satanism and "pagan" or tribal religions would be on top of this list! but nope! it's actually the two religions of "peace". What a sad world.




posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 05:35 PM
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I'd offer a side comment to yours - think of the age of Islam vs the age of Christianity. According to wiki it began around 600-610 CE whereas Christianity began, depending on your definition, somewhere between 30 and 50 CE I'd say.

Think about what Christianity was like 500 years ago. Would you categorize Christianity as a violent culture some 500 years ago? I would.

My take on Islam is that it's still a young religion compared to Christianity. It has yet to mature into a religion as Christianity seems to have at some points. Now don't get me wrong - I'm not calling either religion correct - I'm just drawing the age comparison.

I really draw it up to a maturity thing. I believe that there are moderates - I know quite a few. Only problem is that the media never talks about them. The media never talks about moderate Christians either. Neither are newsworthy.



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by binomialtheorem
So what percent of Muslims are terrorists?
00.0226666667%


Actually, the number of hard core Jihadists around the world has been estimated at 2 million.

That's a lot of dangerous Muslims.

Where are they?

Pakistan, India, UK, Sudan, Bangladesh, Holland, Indonesia, Philippines, Australia ,Nigeria, Sudan, Spain, Somalia, Saudi, Baluchistan, Kosovo, Germany, Iran, Algeria, Egypt, Sweden...

Well, you get the idea.

You will find Jihadi Muslims pretty much anywhere you find Muslims.

Muslims number are still low in the USA, about 0.4% of the population but that hasn't stopped them trying to launch about 35+ attacks on the USA since 9/11.

Still, if most of that 0.4% is peaceful, why would anyone worry about 35+ attempts to stage mass murder attacks in the USA by violent American Muslims?

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posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 05:52 PM
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Seriously, point out something relevant like the witch burnings that go on in Africa if you're going to club the Christians. It's ridiculous to point out things that happened 400 years ago and throw it in the faces of Christians that are generations removed from the perpetrators.



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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All your type does is live in the past, lets live in the now shall we and stop blaming the past. Discuss today and going forward. Its like saying I know the Yankee's would win 100 years after they won...how about what will happen or is happening now.

Give me the list of religions again please and the death they caused as of 2010 shall we and we can move forward not backward from their.

The few or only good things the past is good for it to learn from and not make the same mistakes if matters such as this. (not all things)...



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by inforeal
reply to post by Gakus
 

The vast majority of Islamic countries don’t stone people to death just a few backwards ones unfortunately caught in the grip of clerical dominance that BTW the Prophet Muhammad forbade in Islam.


But the 'few' who do seem to do a lot of murdering.

Thailand: 134th teacher assassinated by Muslim terrorists in Thailand this year

undhimmi.com...

USA: Man arrested over 'plot to bomb Washington DC Metro'

www.bbc.co.uk...

Nigeria: Christmas Eve explosions kill 32 people in Nigeria after two churches are targeted

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Baluchistan: Islamists slaughtering teachers who teach children of both sexes in violation of Sharia

www.asianews.it...:-Islamists-slaughtering-teachers-20247.html

Norway: terror plot 'targeted Danish paper'

www.telegraph.co.uk...

USA: Michigan Man Caught With AK-47 In Dearborn Park Is Radical
Islamist/Blogger/Doctor-in-Training


www.hyscience.com...

Pakistan: Pakistan evangelist set on fire by Muslim extremists

theundergroundsite.com...

Nigeria: Muslim Group Claims Attacks on Two Nigerian Cities That Killed 86 People

www.bloomberg.com...

Pakistan suicide bomb kills scores

www.guardian.co.uk...

Iraq: Christians Fleeing ‘in Their Thousands’

undhimmi.com...

Philippines: Islamists Bomb Philippines Church on Christmas Day

undhimmi.com...

Indonesia: Foils Plot to Bomb Catholic Worshippers

www.taiwannews.com.tw...

Pakistan: Cleric Ups Offer to $6000 for Killing Christian Woman

www.bosnewslife.com...


USA: Times Square car bomb suspect Faisal Shahzad pleads guilty in terrorist case

www.telegraph.co.uk...
Uganda: Three dead in Nairobi bus blast

www.google.com...

India: Alleging blasphemy, fanatics hack lecturer's hand

timesofindia.indiatimes.com...

Australia: Muslim cleric calls for beheading of Dutch politician
in.reuters.com...

UK: Anti-terror squad arrest 12 men 'plotting to cause Christmas shopping carnage'

www.dailymail.co.uk...

USA: Americans Muslims with mock bombs at Amsterdam Airport

abcnews.go.com...



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posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by marinesniper0351
All your type does is live in the past, lets live in the now shall we and stop blaming the past.

Give me the list of religions again please and the death they caused as of 2010 shall we and we can move forward not backward from their.


But I am living in today. All of the above Islamic attacks took place within the last 12 months.

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posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 06:51 PM
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No, the part where the Israeli military gathers children around to paint little designs and silly faces on mortars and rockets that are then fired into Gaza and Palestinian regions. Gotta start the propaganda young.

Both sides have their faults in this conflict.



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
So I ask our Muslim friends yet again. Where is this peaceful majority we keep hearing rumors of? Once again, all I see are hordes of muslims calling for violence, inciting violence, and committing acts of violence.


Pakistan blasphemy laws used to justify 'murder': EU parliament

www.google.com...

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posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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You know, that would probably prove a very disgusting and disturbing point. Rather than sentence her to death, the Pakistani government could just as easily exile her to regions that are heavily monitored by aerial drone flights, and chances are she could end up as "collateral damage" in the war on terror.



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 07:06 PM
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posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 07:22 PM
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What do those have anything to do with religion?



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 07:25 PM
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reply to post by inforeal
 

Oh, grow up, you narrow-minded, fact-twisting uninformed pseudo-moderate.

What happens in war has nothing to do with killing in the name of a religion.

Islam is the only RELIGION in the world that teaches killing of non-Muslims.

And you know what? You're right about one thing - Westerners (Christians) kill like no others on earth, and when it's time, and the Easterners (Muslims) decide to take this jihad crap more global, it will be most interesting in seeing how things turn out.



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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has anyone asked god if he is offended?

im sick of small minded people deciding what offends god...



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by sonofliberty1776


So I ask our Muslim friends yet again. Where is this peaceful majority we keep hearing rumors of? Once again, all I see are hordes of muslims calling for violence, inciting violence, and committing acts of violence. Activists(non-muslims) are asking for a change to the blasphemy law, removing execution as a possible punishment. You can see the results for yourself. I say again. Islam is a death cult until you can prove BY ACTIONS, not verses, that it is anything else.

english.aljazeera.net
(visit the link for the full news article)


I have to agree!

Just for once in my life, can I seen a Muslim stand up against the Islamic extremists?



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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I was referring to the reference to how many Christians, Catholics yada yada have killed in their crusades over their existence. I would rather we discuss the religions that are murderous as of now in this generation and stop looking back and blaming past atrocities. Currently and unfortunately most of the problems come from my religion or people claiming to be my religion (the hard core murderous ones anyway).

Either way the mentality of the average Muslim is more aggressive than any other mainstream religion that I know of and its a shame.

My apologies if I confused the thread or made an in accurate statement against you ollncasino...

I am just tired of blaming the past, kinda like when people blame previous presidents for the failures of our current one. (please do not flame me)... "for if you do Allah will strike you down"....JUST KIDDING...!



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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I am Muslim and not peaceful against terrorists and people the hurt the weak. I learned this in the US. Marines...

I am peaceful and tolerant of most people though...except those damn meeter maids, I swear I get a ticket every time I part my car...



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 08:52 PM
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Blasphemy, who even uses that terminology anymore? That was a commonly used term during the inquisitions, which was a few centuries ago.



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 09:20 PM
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Now imagine how many people have been saved by modern people, philanthropists, and many others who say they do it because of their religion. I mean, you can flat out say over 1 billion. Because the combined helping of good Muslims, Christian charities, and other religious groups, are some of the only people helping others in the poorest places on Earth. Not to mention, assuming it is truth, then anybody who died and didn't go to hell got saved too. But lets keep in the realm of the physical, ok?

There have been roughly 110 billion people who ever lived. Most of those deaths can be accounted to disease, slaughter for Barbary wars before religion existed, and general chaos. Lets take away half. The rest of those 50 billion have probably mostly lived in the last few centuries. So lets just say the 200 million who have died from Islam, and I'm just going to guess the 50 million who died from the Crusades and inquisition (take note the Christian ones took place in less populated areas. The areas Islam was were far more populated because they were not in the dark ages and still had technology and medical know how to live longer and have more people). That only accounts to roughly 250 million. Now lets look at religious institutions today who support the poor and needy. Why, every 10 years, a couple hundred million die and a couple hundred million live. It is mostly religion that generates a need to help them. And their continued existence adds billions to those saved by religion.

Do try to look at the bigger picture.

But hey, that's all off topic. The topic is Islam. Now I ask you to look at the world. We have a clear contrast between 3 groups if people. The hoard, the average Joe, and the elite. The hoard are the mindless many who kill and have "mob morality", which is, if you don't agree with them, you're dead. The average joe are probably you and me. Higher educated people whom have more than just mob mentality. The elite are our leaders. The manipulators of the hoard and the ones who cause problems, mostly. The hoard in this world are overwhelmingly Islamic. Now yes there are Christian members of the hoard, but the fact remains that overwhelmingly, the hoard is Islamic. The average Joe I would argue are mainly Christian and non-Islamic people far east. They tend to not be dumb... usually. And the elites I'd say are pretty much clear cut even between Christian Islamic and neither. Now the fact is this. The Islamic leaders of the hoard use their power to destroy that which is different. The Christian leaders of the hoard, with the exception of Pat Robertson, The Lord's army, and a few others, usually tends to direct their manipulation towards not being violent. Admittedly mostly for their own financial gain, but it is simple fact that they usually do not direct them towards violence. The rest are either Chinese leaders who go either way, Civil rights leaders who are not Christian or at least do not act out their title, and they also go either way, and other types, who again, go either way.

Now Maybe I am being silly here, but I can see the contrast. Islam needs to change. Christianity did change. And then it returned back to its roots and stopped being dumb. And for that, it is not as bad. Islam still needs to change though. And not back to its roots. To something sane.
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posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 09:26 PM
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Oh so now you’re true colors come out (Of course without dealing with any of my points that you avoid.) You want all Muslims killed.
Then you Christians could have a peaceful world all to yourselves

Islam never ever said people should be murdered for their beliefs that is done by Islamic ignoramuses on your level who distort the religion as you distort reality on your level.
You and them are mirrors of each others ignorant bigotry and you deserve each other.

I know these narrow minded bigoted religionists, I have dealt with them, something you only read in the news, so you know little nothing about them only what the MSM conservative bigots want people like you to believe—narrow minded bigoted hatred of anything other than yourself.

There are many Muslim countries like Egypt, Morocco, Turkey, Indonesia, and India [many Muslims], Jordon, and many others you rarely even hear about. They successfully deal with the few Islamic extremist they have.

Of course the CIA hasn’t been there to excite them for their own reasons as they did in Afghanistan so that’s why you hear little about them.



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