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Originally posted by TWILITE22
reply to post by TheSkinRipper
If that was your 18month old child being dropped kicked by the nanny would you have any feelings about it then?
Originally posted by TheSkinRipper
You and me in the jungle. One piece of meat to eat between us. I will NOT share it with you. So you will cease to exist once starvation sets in. I on the other hand will sleep with a full belly. Its a matter of survival. People like me are built to survive. Even at the expense of others. That is the way it should be. Why be attached to people. I see it as a great human flaw.
I fit in by adapting.edit on 1-1-2011 by TheSkinRipper because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Kandinsky
Was the 'nanny' wearing a badge or T-shirt that identified him/her as a nanny? Did the baby have a 'Happy 18 month birthday' badge? Who filmed it?
I would imagine the "film" of the nanny was done by the parents, for evidence on a nannycam,
Anyway SkinRipper welcome to ATS, I'm sure you will fit in well and I'm certain you'll meet like minded fellows.
Originally posted by TheSkinRipper
I go to work. I go to the gym. I attend the odd dinner party and keep conversation respectable and polite. People around me like me and at work I have the respect I want. I thrive on being the one who manipulates and uses people like pawns. It is just a game to me. But on the plus side I get paid too.
The business is a place I am safe in. I can go about my things without much notice as others too are playing the game.
Yeah, but it's a conspiracy website, so it's typical of the territory.
It's quite common.
Sometimes they are born that way.
He married again and had a child
There are documentaries about psychopaths functioning quite well in society.
No one can really feel another person's pain.
They relish your humiliation and pain when they are inflicting it.
Yeah, but it's a conspiracy website, so it's typical of the territory.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
I suppose. I guess because it is my business, I don't find it anymore conspiratorial then someone coming in making a thread about having diabetes. It's an illness, albeit people are fascinated by it, I guess.
It's quite common.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
Yes, it is. In prisons. lol.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
It is thought, actually, to be rare,
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
but it's possible that sometimes the diagnosis is missed, because people with APD have a heightened sense of reality testing.
But no. Antisocial personality disorder, or "Psychopath", are not at all common.
Sometimes they are born that way.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
We need to locate these people, write them up, and I'll publish them in a journal. lol.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
They develop as the personality is developing, and are associated with some type childhood trauma.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
Ahhh, Ted Bundy. The most interesting of them all. Ted Bundy was never "a regular guy". Never.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
He was showing characteristics of criminality as a toddler, literally,
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
and is thought to have killed his first victim when he was 14, and had a paper route.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
So he is immensely complicated, but also was gifted in intelligence, and consequently able to learn normal responses and behaviors at an early age. He was able to conceal his rage around others.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
Do you know that is father was also his grandfather? This is suspected to be one of the source's of his rage.
Ted Bundy was born Theodore Robert Cowell at the Elizabeth Lund Home For Unwed Mothers in Burlington, Vermont, to Eleanor Louise Cowell.
While the identity of his father is unknown, Bundy's birth certificate lists a "Lloyd Marshall" (b. 1916). Louise would later tell of being seduced by a war veteran named "Jack Worthington".
Her family did not believe this story, however, and expressed suspicions that the real father may have been Louise's violent, abusive father, Samuel Cowell.
Whatever the truth of Bundy's parentage, to avoid social stigma, Bundy's maternal grandparents, Samuel and Eleanor Cowell, claimed him as their son. He grew up believing that his mother was his older sister.
Bundy biographers Stephen Michaud and Hugh Aynesworth wrote that Bundy found a copy of his birth certificate at home when he was in high school.
True crime writer Ann Rule, who knew Bundy personally, believes it was around 1969, shortly after a traumatic breakup with his college girlfriend.
No one can really feel another person's pain.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
I don't think you mean that, do you? It's empathy, sympathy, and compassion which most people experience to some degree. This is absent in the psychopath.
They relish your humiliation and pain when they are inflicting it.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
No. They relish their own pleasure in seeing you in pain.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
Yes, it is. In prisons. lol. Up to 75% of male prison populations are thought to have this PD. Not to suggest that Anti-Social Personality is synonymous with Criminality, it isn't, and sometimes other significant disorders are overlooked, such as mania and schizophrenia, which if are present, the PD diagnosis is not made. If the criminality is the only deviant behavior, it's typically placed in another area called "conditions not attributable to a mental illness".
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
It is thought, actually, to be rare, but it's possible that sometimes the diagnosis is missed, because people with APD have a heightened sense of reality testing. They often appear charming, and credible during the clinical interview, and irrational thinking and delusions can appear completely absent.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
But underneath the veneer there is tension, hostility, irritability and rage. There is a "stress interview", in which the person is vigorously questioned about inconsistencies in their history, and sometimes this will permit the underlying pathologies and characteristics to surface. However, it is not terribly unusual for this person to manipulate even the most experienced clinician, and fool them.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
For example....in this thread. The OP was questioned by a poster, and his reponse was to then tell the poster he was worthless. Good for nothing, among other insults. He then caught himself, and went back and deleted the anti-social comments, but not before the poster quoted him, for all to see his true colors.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
But no. Antisocial personality disorder, or "Psychopath", are not at all common. Maybe that is one of the reasons they are found to be interesting, as well.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
Ahhh, Ted Bundy. The most interesting of them all. Ted Bundy was never "a regular guy". Never. He was showing characteristics of criminality as a toddler, literally, and is thought to have killed his first victim when he was 14, and had a paper route. So he is immensely complicated, but also was gifted in intelligence, and consequently able to learn normal responses and behaviors at an early age. He was able to conceal his rage around others. Do you know that is father was also his grandfather? This is suspected to be one of the source's of his rage.
Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
Yes, and many of them work on wall street. Once an anti-social personality develops, it runs an unremitting course, with the height of it occurring in late adolescence. The prognosis is variable. There are reports that symptoms decrease as patients grow older.
Roughly 3% of any given population evidently, but I would hazard that it is slightly higher. These days. Especially in terms of secondary psychopathy, I think many aspire to such behaviour, especially when such behaviour is clearly rewarded in society.