Federal Reserve Being Exposed as World's Biggest Scam!

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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:18 PM
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If someone or some group really wants to spread truth, then post it on YouTube for free.

Yes it costs to make a film, but once cost's are covered the truther should release the film for free, or else they are no better than the Feds.

All of this information is already out there, this is just another mousetrap to make money.
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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by Realtruth
If someone or some group really wants to spread truth, then post it on YouTube for free.

Yes it costs to make a film, but once cost's are covered the truther should release the film for free, or else they are no better than the Feds.

All of this information is already out there, this is just another mousetrap to make money.
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Come on man, not everybody reads ATS etc.

I would have titled the movie "WTF is going on for Dummies"



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:36 PM
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It has nothing to do with ATS, what I am talking about is people trying to profit off of information that is already on YouTube for free.

It's great that people want to know about this but I could post at least 5 different video's that cost nothing on YouTube, why promote something that cost's money?



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:38 PM
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One thing...what if the government turned around and told the Fed to go whistle for it's money?

Sort of "Sorry, we've decided that to pay you what you say we owe you would bring our country to it's knees, and that, we cannot allow at *any* price...go away, and suck it up..."


NO ONE OWES the bankers ANYTHING!!!



The bankers do not loan one red cent to anyone! Therefore there is no "Consideration" and the contracts are null and void as Web of Debt showed.

"A Talk by G. Edward Griffin" gives a dandy explanation of how the system actually works on the federal level and shows WHY we do not OWE any money to the banks. Bonds that were sold to individuals is a completely different matter since those were actually paid for.

If you want to wade through the hundred plus pages of A Primer on Money that source confirms this.


...Just remember that it is a scam and if you keep that fact in mind then you'll have no trouble comprehending what's going on.

Here's how it works.

It starts with the government side of the partnership, it starts in Congress which is spending money like crazy. It spends far more money than it takes in. It is spending way beyond its income. How can it do that? Basically this is what happens. Let's say Congress needs an extra billion dollars today so it goes to the treasury and says "we want a billion dollars" and the treasury official says "you guys have got to be kidding, we don't have any money here, you spent it all a long time ago, everything that we've taken in taxes you fellows have spent by March." Congress says "we thought that was true but we thought we'd stop by just in case somebody sent some more in."

They get together and they go down the street and they get the idea that we'll borrow the money. So they stop at the printing office and they don't print money at the printing office, they print certificates and they're very fancy things with borders on the edge with an eagle across the top and a seal at the bottom and it says "US Government Bond" or "Note" or "Bill" depending on the length of the maturity of it. If you hold it up to the light it really says "IOU" because that's what it is.

They print these things up and it looks very impressive and then they offer them to the private sector; they're hoping that people will come up and loan money to the federal government and a lot of people do and are anxious to lend money to their government. Why? Because they've been told by their investment advisors that that's the most sound investment that you can make. Why? We've all heard that these loans are backed by the full faith and credit of the US government. They're not quite sure what that means but it sure sounds good. I'd like to explain for you who are in doubt what that means.

The full faith and credit of the US government means that the government solemnly promises to pay back that loan plus interest if it has to take everything you and I have in the form of taxes in order to do it, it's going to do it. It will take everything we have if necessary to hold its pledge. People don't realize that they're putting themselves on the line, they're going to get their own money back minus a substantial handling fee.

Plenty of money is loaned to the government but never enough. Congress needs more money than that. They say not to worry. They go further down the street to the Federal Reserve building. The Fed has been waiting for them, that's one of the reasons it was created. By the time they get inside the Federal Reserve building the officer of the Fed is opening his desk drawer. He knows they're going to be there and he's ready and he pulls out his checkbook and he writes a check to the US Treasury for one billion dollars or whatever the amount is that they need. He signs the check and gives it to the treasury official.

We need to stop here for a minute and ask a question. Where did they get a billion dollars to give to the treasury? who put that money into the account at the Federal Reserve System? The amazing answer is there is no money in the account at the Federal Reserve System. In fact, technically, there isn't even an account, there is only a checkbook. That's all. That billion dollars springs into being at precisely the instant the officer signs that check and that is called "monetizing the debt," that's the phrase they throw at you. That means they just wrote a check, a big rubber check.

If you and I were to do that we would go to jail but they can do it because Congress wants them to do it. In fact, this is the payoff, this is the benefit to the government side of this partnership, this is how the government gets its instant access to any amount of money at any time without having to go to the taxpayer directly and justify it or ask for it. Otherwise, they would have to come to the taxpayer and say we're going to raise your taxes another $3,000 this year and of course if they did that, they would be voted out of office real fast.

They like the Mandrake Mechanism because it's a no questions asked source of money. You may have noticed that it's been many years since Congress has even discussed what anything costs, it's not an issue. It doesn't make any difference what the cost is because regardless of the overrun they know they can go down the street to the Federal Reserve and by law the officer has to write that big check and give it to them and they're off and running....
www.bigeye.com...




posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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RT, the bottom is about to fall out, that is inevitable. Can you really blame someone for trying to position themselves for it. Survival stores, truth sites, you name it, it still comes down to people and their families in the end. If I thought I could profit off of all of this mess somehow believe me I would because I am no where near ready for this, are you?

It would be great if this were out there for free but I'm not going to damn someone for trying to better prepare themselves for what is coming. Information is the new demand, it makes since and is reasonable to request compensation for providing the supply.

just my .02



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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Here is an ATS thread that contains most of the info for free, no cost, no charge, yes he does have a book but the basics are free.

Enjoy!


The Creature from Jekyll Island


Google Video Link



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:48 PM
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We have the "RIGHTS" we are willing to demand! No matter what the cost... Far better Men and Women than us who have gone before secured these rights for us and now it is our watch and we owe it to their sacrifices for us to see that these rights are protected today and for generations to come.


Oh I certainly agree and that is why I have spent weekends the last few years getting the "word" out.

If you look at my previous post to this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

You can see I not only warn but I suggest possible solutions too.

The big thing is we have to understand is the Media is OWNED by the banks. JP Morgan Chase just became the top dog
in the media so we have to do this by word of mouth.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by WWJFKD
reply to post by Realtruth
 


RT, the bottom is about to fall out, that is inevitable. Can you really blame someone for trying to position themselves for it. Survival stores, truth sites, you name it, it still comes down to people and their families in the end. If I thought I could profit off of all of this mess somehow believe me I would because I am no where near ready for this, are you?




It goes to show people are not looking for solutions, but grabbing at straws and doing the same things that they accuse others of.

If the bottom falls out, people need to work together not repeat the same mistakes.

Come up with solutions and constructive things, and then just maybe it will be worth something more than money, other than that it is the same old victim stories and destructive MO.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:09 PM
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Thanks for the link, but it's a good example of a not very Dummy friendly production.

Your average sheep is not going to sit through it.

We have to make things as simple as possible.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by GlennCanady
Everything we were told in school was a lie!

Yeah, but how's that been working out for you? Pretty well I assume? I mean, you've been doing better than a Chinese laborer, right?

You see, the real chumps in all of this will be those left holding those dollars when they eventually are declared worthless. It will be the Chinese and those OPEC nations left holding all those worthless paper promises they had accepted in exchange for all that labor and natural resources that are the chump suckers in all of this, ha .. when they realize we cheated them out of a debt we owed by inflating and devaluing those paper fiat promises.

Man, I can only imagine how ticked off the rest of the world will be when they realize the joke was on them, har. We had a pretty good ride at their expense here in America. Of course 2011 will be known as the run duck and cover year, ha, the year of truth ... and consequences, har!
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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:18 PM
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How the hell is it constitutionally legal to *not* be able to feed your family what you wish to?

How can they put a ban on what people wish or do not wish to grow for food?

...That's bloody outrageous!

How many independent farmers are there in the US?

There must be hundreds of thousands...why don't they tell the government crooks and their Monsanto frankenfood mates to go **** themselves, and to come and arrest us all then...


The USDA "counted" 2.1 million farms. Many of us told the USDA where they could shove their Ag Census (It is NOT Constitutional) Out of that 2.1 million only 70,642 farms GROSS $500,000 (that gives about $25,000 to $50,000 net... if you are lucky.) This means most farmers have a second job. This works in our favor.

I am hoping that we can wake up the USA in a much easier fashion. JUST DON'T PLANT any grain to sell in 2012. REAL simple. Plant veggie farms and sell direct to your customers. Plant a bit of corn or wheat to sell to your neighbors with livestock.

Tell the international grain traders and Biofuel plants to find their grain elsewhere
The USA produces 25% of the world's grain so if we do not grow any for ONE season maybe we can wake Americans up. All that pasta and bread makes us fat any way


Thanks to Dan Amstutz and the grain traders the USA got rid of its strategic grain storage in 2006 (Dan's "Freedom to Farm Act of 2006) The USA ran out of stored grain in 2008.

By the way you did not think the drastic fall in the real estate market AND the passage of the Food Safety bill that will force farmers into bankruptcy was a coincidence did you?

Monsanto is already buying up "Organic Farms" and guess who controls Monsanto , Why the Financiers of course



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:31 PM
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Actually there were two other presidents that i can think of that tried to get rid of the banking system. One Abraham Lincoln tried to rebalance our economy during the civil war by changing it back to a silver standard and of course we know how that turned out....he got shot in the head just like JFK.
Andrew Jackson was my favorite president,...he actually did route out the international bankers and defeated them. I think his tombstone said "I killed the bank". However, after his death, they came right back and here we are today.

Other, not so known, congressmen etc. that tried dilligently were Congressman McFadden (1931) who ranted in congress about International Bankers and showed no mercy, later he was murdered at a party by poisoning.
Charles Lindhberg, spoke out and revealed the The bankers manifesto of 1892 and we know what happened to him. His child was kidnapped and grusomely murdered.

I never did believe in this Federal Reserve stuff in school and as a result did not do so hot in school. I do know the truth now and that's all that matters. I could feel, even as a youngster, that there was something wrong with this crap.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by bigyin
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Thanks for the link, but it's a good example of a not very Dummy friendly production.

Your average sheep is not going to sit through it.

We have to make things as simple as possible.


Although I would have to agree, with a short attention span, dancing with the stars, Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga I don't think most people will even connect the dots. What we will see is many people pointing fingers instead of taking personal responsibility for sitting on their collective arses.

The reason TPTB worked well together and did well was they agreed on an agenda, then proceeded to stick with it regardless of their differences, which most politicians and the average Joe can not seem to do.

That is why corporations do well they have a business plan and stick with it, it may not be ethically or morally sound, and a great place to work, but they have a direction so people follow.

Most sheep need direction, unless they decide to leaders themselves and accept personal responsibility, but it is much to easy to let other have the power and choose the direction.

So if the market does collapse, people will have a wonderful new opportunity to start over and not be under the influence of a system that dictates to them.

What will they choose?
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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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Found a copy online already... anyone who's used torrents should be able to find it in about five minutes.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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what is unclear to me is fluidity, if that is the right word. the amount of money to keep goods and services flowing, the problem seems to be the vast pools of stagnant money, what if we had a trickle up economy? you know the wealthy will still end up with most of it anyway but at least the poor could have some to spend sometimes



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 03:28 PM
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I was not aware that Andrew Jackson had gotten rid of the Banksters, Pior.
It also seems that the attemp on his life had nothing to do with, the Banksters he was attempting to remove.

I was hopeing it was differnt as the would of help support the theory the the Banksters were behind Kennedy's assassination.

I do believe that as Lincoln and Kennedy was murdered by their own Government, in one way or another.

I also believe that the people who poke fun at Conspiracy are very stupid, as it is writen thru out history how the world has been run by liers and cheats. It is writen also in history as fact that many bad dealings occurred for personal gain of money power. A large part of america was built on the fact that they were sending the crooks to the new world, what the hell does that tell you.
People are so niave, if they were not so, and they saw the real world they would crap their drawers.
I believe in giving everyone a chance but I don't trust anyone, they will take your money, take your wife, and even take your life, if you let them, I think at least they had better be willing to pay if they want to play.

As for those that plunder the Earth and it's people, I believe that their is a Divine Justice in the Universe that will in the end set things straight with these.
As with the evolvment of the Earth thus far there is a desired result, the plunder's of the Earth I do not believe is in line with the end plan, the Earth has come to far not to let the skum these people are to win in the end.
I believe Karma will come into effect and bit all these involved in the arse.

Down with the Fed Banksters, long live the Republic.
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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by WWJFKD
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RT, the bottom is about to fall out, that is inevitable. Can you really blame someone for trying to position themselves for it. Survival stores, truth sites, you name it, it still comes down to people and their families in the end. If I thought I could profit off of all of this mess somehow believe me I would because I am no where near ready for this, are you?

It would be great if this were out there for free but I'm not going to damn someone for trying to better prepare themselves for what is coming. Information is the new demand, it makes since and is reasonable to request compensation for providing the supply.

just my .02



They probably WANT it to fall out. They will then blame it on the American people and call Ron Paul and the like, t3rrorists. They will then join the 3 regions of the U.S/Canada/Mexico as one region and give us the "fixed" currency that all three nations must share for fulent trade. This, of course, was already set in motion by George Bush in his tenure, and i am sure Obama is clandestinely pushing this policy on through to the finish, just as he did with Bush's other tyranical policies. Some savior this Obama has turned out to be. It's funny, how the vehement defences squad for Obama on these forums has died down to a silent whisper. No one even admits they were wrong either. They protect him and defend him like a lioness protects her young and then when it turns out that he is just as bad, if not worse, than Bush.....they suddenly clam up and change the subject. He is an iron fist in a velvet glove...Bush was just an "in your face" insane nut job. Whatever the case, this was all set up by an elite group men of who have an (almost inhuman) level of intelligence, dare I say, illuminated by Lucifer? We all know how stupid Bush was:



Well, Obama, although a lawyer and apparantly a lifelong resident, born and raised in the United States (Hawaii) wasn't as smart as people thought he was.......this video makes you wonder if the birthers are right? Was this guy a born and bred American? Let's let him answer that.: (I had no idea that he had actually traversed all 57 of the United States....intriguing!)



So, as you can see these two could NOT have devised a plan like what is happening with the new currency on it's way. This girl here would have a better chance of doing it, because she has the collective intelligence of both Bush and Obama:



Now, I laughed at her in the beginning, but after watching Obama's video above......it occured to me....there really must have been a map shortage in the states. Off the topic, her answer was a major fail, it should have been that she would campaign to make sure that there was a map in every home in America and that a suffering child would never have to be mapless again! She is still smarter than Bush and Obama though...gotta admit that.
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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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777 Finally a real interesting movie about truth that we can all stand to watch. Star an flag



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 03:48 PM
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I think it is a well known thing by most economists....the problem is, everyone thinks it's 'too big to fail'. If America goes down so will every other country.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 04:00 PM
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what is unclear to me is fluidity, if that is the right word. the amount of money to keep goods and services flowing, the problem seems to be the vast pools of stagnant money, what if we had a trickle up economy? you know the wealthy will still end up with most of it anyway but at least the poor could have some to spend sometimes


No the real problem is theft by the bankers. These fraudsters have managed to create a system where over 80% of the wealth produced in this county now flows to them! Therefore the solution is to make bankers abide by the same laws of contract we do instead of giving them "favored citizen status"


What is money after all?
Money is a tool of exchange, which can't exist unless there are goods produced. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Money is the means by which men who wish to deal with one another trade value for value. Money is the ultimate "refinement" of the barter system some one else mentioned. Unfortunately most people have no understanding of what money really is.


What is Wealth?
Think about it. Man's mind is the root of all of the goods ever produced and of all the wealth that exists. Without Man's mind there would be no wealth. It is Man's ingenuity that allows him to combine labor and raw materials and produce the products others want.

Unfortunately what we have now is a system where money ceases to be the tool by which men deal with one another, trading what one has for what one needs. Instead it is now the tool of bankers (looters and fraudsters ALL) who count on those who produce to create the value of their looted money.

Once you understand that you can understand the poor are poor because their wealth has been stolen by the bankers. As I said in another post. Mises figured out the way to correct the situation:



"The Return to Sound Money,"



The first step must be a radical and unconditional abandonment of any further inflation. The total amount of dollar bills, whatever their name or legal characteristic may be, must not be increased by further issuance.

No bank must be permitted to expand the total amount of its deposits subject to check or the balance of such deposits of any individual customer, be he a private citizen or the U.S. Treasury, otherwise than by receiving cash deposits in legal-tender banknotes from the public or by receiving a check payable by another domestic bank subject to the same limitations. This means a rigid 100 percent reserve for all future deposits; that is, all deposits not already in existence on the first day of the reform (p. 448).

In Human Action, Mises said that the government's task is to enforce contracts. Among these contracts are contracts for redeeming money-certificates for money metals on demand. He defined a money-certificate a receipt for a money metal that has 100% of the promised metal in reserve. He said that banks should not be favored by the government. They should not be allowed the right to break contracts, which is what a refusal to redeem money-certificates on demand is. "What is needed to prevent any further credit expansion is to place the banking business under the general rules of commercial and civil laws compelling every individual to fulfill all obligations in full compliance with the terms of the contract"

Mises on Money: www.lewrockwell.com...





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