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Originally posted by truthiron
reply to post by catwhoknowsplusone
I would like to define "church" just a bit different than that a building or temple or great cathedral as the church. His church is actually where two or three are gathered together in His name and worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. The scripture states "must be worshipped in Spirit and in Truth".
That means He is not in the midst if error is being taught and promoted.
Mt 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
I am not a member of any denominational church but I am of that "invisible" church.
We don't stand alone in Him.
Blessings and peace.
The supreme being ordered everyone to call him YHWH.
He also said not to idolize anyone or anything but him.
Originally posted by JudgedCover
Yes, the church has done a masterful work for the last 2 millenia of mutilating the true message and teachings of Christ. Yet the truth is right there in the very pages of the Bible as it exists today (the full Bible has been successfully suppressed and/or destroyed from human record, and no I'm not talking about the Gnostic texts).
In the very beginning we are plainly told that we have the divine spark within us, unless created in His image simply is referring to a "shape".... Christ came to show us how to release that divine spark (parable of the seeds, mustard seed, vine/fruit) and cultivate it to it's flourishing.
For 4000 years of recorded Biblical history the Bible teaches a clear message of Karma (sow/reap), the only defense against our output of dark energy (sin) was to allow a sacrificed beast to absorb it as it was a symbol for the One who would be the ultimate sacrifice who would absorb that energy once and for all and empower us to do the same.
Christ came to show us the way, truth and life by unleashing the power of Christ that is within us all that simply lies dormant under generations of darkness under the curse brought about by the defiance of the Creator's natural order for the pleasure of serving self.
Biblical story after story reveals these truths. One of my favorites is the narrative of the 2 son's of Isaac, Jacob and Esau. Esau's soul was "hated" by the Creator because it would never seek the path of the Spirit, rather it would be consumed with fulfilling the desires of flesh. He traded his inheritance for a bowl of soup. A theme we see repeated over and over again and beautifully retold by the Christ in the famous Prodigal Son Parable.
Christ showed us that a life dedicated to pleasing the desires of flesh, the pursuit of wealth, sexual gratification, the allure of power and control over others, the pleasure of violence and revenge, the security of shrinking in the face of fear etc. etc. rather than a life devoted to cultivating the power of the spirit then transitioning into releasing the power of Christ within us by absorbing the negative, dark energy of the world (forgive others, turn the cheek, give a second cloak, sell all your goods and give to the poor, love your neighbor, lay down your life for a friend, heal the sick, release the demonically oppressed even reverse death).
That is the path of enlightenment, power, and ultimate ascension to rejoin the Source, our Father the Creator and it is a path that is made clear and possible by and through the Christ for we abide in Him and He in us and He abides in the Father. The path of flesh and serving it's desires is the path of destruction and one will continually have to suffer the discipline of multiple lives in that flesh (or periods of greater discipline in Sheol/Hell) until they are awakened to the light of Christ, or ultimately upon the end of this present Age if their soul refuses enlightenment time after time after time then it will ultimately be disposed of and be no more as to not corrupt the new era where the Spirit Realm and Physical Realm become one creating a new existence for all that is.
Of course the Romans like the Babylonians before them and the Sumerians before them based their civilization on serving and pursuing the desires of flesh. When they took control of the Logos (Word) their strategy only evolved and it has been evolving ever since to this day.
Everything one needs to see the true nature of the church can be found in Mardi Gras...yes Mardi Gras. A celebration of flesh fulfillment before a time of flesh denial (Lent). Either way the masses are consumed with the flesh.
It is in the church's best interests to keep their customer base "sinful". Keep sinning, keep needing our priests for confession, keep needing our guidance, keep needing our charity, keep needing our "wisdom", keep needing our protection, keep needing our baptisms, keep needing our "keys" into heaven and keep fearing eternal damnation in hell and of course keep giving us your money, your service, your lands, your worship, your loyalty and assist us in wiping out anyone who dares think or believe otherwise.
The church is the ultimate "middle-man" which is ironic since it is painfully obvious from the teachings of Christ that one of the primary reasons he came to earth was to eliminate all "middle-men" between us and the Creator.
It's very hard to profit from and control a mass of people who are free from the passions of flesh, the allure of wealth and the lust of power, a people who are empowered by an energy source not of this world and in need of nothing this world has to offer, a people that absorbs hate and releases love, a people with whom nothing is impossible, a people with free will and the power to exercise it for every good thing.
Convince the divine soul that it is a creature, that it is perpetually evil and sinful or that it alone should be in control and rule and you can turn the divine son or daughter of the Most High into your slave and that is the force of evil, that is Satan, for where there is control there is Satan where there is freedom there is Christ.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by JudgedCover
At the top of your post it says, reply to jmdewey
did you just hit the reply to button because it just
happened to be the latest post, or where you addressing
something in my post? because I can't figure out what it is
if that is the case.
. . .former masters had indoctrinated me well.