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Originally posted by Lucifersjester
Lucifer does mean the light bearer or the bringer of light, the light he brings symbolizes knowledge and truth, it was lucifer who saved us from the opressive god of the old testament ( rex mundi) lucifer = knowledge = power and the old testement god was jealous when he found out that lucifer had enlightend us and we were his equal lucifer is not evil but the old testement god is a jealous unforgiving tyrant, Jesus told us to ignore the teacheings of the old testement and to love one another to forgive to tolerate, he never told us to kill for god or make war in his name, unlkie the old testement god who seemed to enjoy a good war with a bit of genocide thrown in to boot, lucifer is the light bringer lucifer is the candle in the darkness lucifer is good and holy...
Originally posted by truthiron
reply to post by Camtheconspiracyman
Your are totally right in that assessment. He wants to be seen as the illuminated one and light bearer, but is darkness and no light in him. We should and must not be a part of spreading any spark of idea that he is light. I think some versions of the Bible read wrong that he is but the KJV has it right. -,
Re 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
Then RE He tells us, "he that overcomeeth" -
Re 2:28 And I will give him the morning star.
Let's all walk that fine line and give nothing to the destroyer.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by truthiron
I always thought of Satan, not as darkness, or the polar opposite of light, since I don't believe in the game of black and white or try to play that game, since what you resist persists and there's no real freedom there, but instead as a destructive enemy of man and God, and the rebellious will that wants to be God or to replace God.
My confusion was over the reference to the bright and morning star, which many think of as Lucifer, as there is another reference in the Bible to the fallen one as the morning star.
Interestingly, Buddha was said to see the morning star at his enlightenment, so the "morning star" seem to refer to enlightenment, and perhaps the planet Jupiter.
I'm not confused, but your statements have been confusing.
P.S. I will repeat that there is no satan in Christ, and thus for those in Christ with Christ in them, satan is something passing away with the old world, with no use and no function, no purpose. So for those who are becoming increasingly emmersed in the kingdom life, satan is of no concern, and is tread under foot.
edit on 31-12-2010 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)