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EBE R611R the truth

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posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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I wouldn't trade my encounter either, it has made me think twice and take note.

I wouldn't want it to happen to me again though just because the feeling of terror although it was only for a moment is to much to take all over again. However if it happened again and i was relaxed i would certainly try and communicate and stick around longer.

I cannot begin to explain the emotions i experienced in the early hours of the morning with that thing, the closest thing to it that i can explain is this;
I was sailing on a 40ft yacht called moondancer with my good friend mike and his 2 sons, i wasn't an experienced sailor but they were. The day was going well and we were enjoying a beer on deck and talking, suddenly i was thrown into the mast whacking my face against the pole. We had hit a sand bank and were stuck fast. Typically the weather turned nasty and the wind began to blow, the yacht was thrashing violently from side to side and couldnt get the sails down. To cut a long story short i got stuck in the rigging lines and the yacht tip upside down with me stuck underwater drowning. . . that feeling of terror and lack of control wasnt as intence as the feeling i had meeting EBE!!

Thats why i wouldn't want to do it again.
hope that makes sense




posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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Something my wife's has just pointed out to me is that i cant wear watches that require batteries because they always stop working. They just die within hours of me wearing them.
We don't know how long its been going on for because i just don't wear them anymore.
This could be related to my experience but i cant remember how long it's been going on for.
This does not explain the missed time issue i had because the clock in the vehicle was ok

I think the clock was ok anyway.



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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....that feeling of terror and lack of control wasnt as intence as the feeling i had meeting EBE!!


Hello.

Have been reading with some interest, and have to say --- as someone who has been here on ATS for some time, I have seen quite a few contrived "stories" hoaxed. I have to say, though, that upon reading the opening post, and the rest, your sincerity seems unassailable. Can't put my finger on it --- but there's an honesty, almost passion, that shows through. The rather "unpolished" nature of the writing, too (no offence)...some people have tried to "fake" that part, and it usually shows as fake.

Now, I wish I had a personal similar experience to share, but I don't. Still, read your latest comparison, to the near-drowning terror, and recall this from two pages back:


My findings leave me thinking that possibly i felt what it felt, meaning i felt its fear and it felt my fear so we basically somehow boosted the emotion until it realised i was no threat.
I know it sounds a little far fetched.


Actually, from the many years of thinking and reading about this possibility (EBEs actually here, now) and sifting through many, many crap either intentional red-herring dis-info that is thrown up to distract, or else just poor (but sincere) recollections by experiencers....well, I don't think your idea there, of "transmitted" emotions is very far off at all.

Maybe it's due to my long interest in topics of Science Fiction...but that IS a common theme, in the minds of those who postulate such things, as strong transference of emotion, telepathy, etc.

It is also safe to allege, I think, that we Humans (being primarily geared and conditioned to thinking and intellectual aspects), don't often "tap into" many of any traits that may exist, in terms of strong empathic abilities that may be inherent in us.

"Lesser" animals it seems, DO have that ability, in various forms and fashions. How many times have many Humans had stories of their pet dog or cat, for example, seeming to "know" one's mental state? Especially in times of deep distress, like anguish.

SO....seems very plausible, to me, that "EBE" could very well have "projected"....even, acted as a sort of reflector, too....momentarily startled, until it resumed a measure of control.


Now....this begs a question, have you contemplated?: Assuming, benefit of doubt, the scenario happened exactly as you remember, within the limits of your memory ----

  • What was the EBE doing "out" like that? Just roaming around, in the open, unescorted in a (to it) "alien" environment??

    And,

  • Why (what possible reason) could it have been so distracted that it, too, was "startled" upon the encounter with you?

    Perhaps they, like us, aren't "perfect"? Just.....different....


    edit on 2 January 2011 by weedwhacker because: (no reason given)



  • posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 11:32 AM
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    Hello,
    After reading your reply i have to say that i haven't thought of my encounter as being different to how i perceived it at the time until recently. I am being drawn towards the possibility that i may of been in the situation longer then my memory is telling me.
    The reason for my theory is this :
    Sometimes a person who experience a situation so traumatic simply switch off ( conciously ). Because i experienced a time loss i am thinking that my concious memory deleted part of my experience as a defence mechanism. This is just a theory i have.

    Over the recent days i have been thinking about what it was doing in the woods why did i have to see it? I simply cannot answer those questions and that frustrates me. I know to the people reading my thread it seems trivial, it's not the case when it's to do with oneself.


    edit on 28/12/2010 by stewalters1 because: (no reason given)



    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 01:28 PM
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    The thing is, it is not just whether or not you feel others think you are crazy. It's more personal than that. The reason is a self perspective of sanity that is important and the reason you can't just forget it is because even if you don't completely understand it in the beginning, it becomes a part of you and grows as you get older... at least it did for me.

    I would have no clue what you would be talking about, I don't even think aliens would be all that important, nor do I see why people care so much even if they knew aliens existed. But if you were to have any of the experiences you and the op describe an out of nowhere type of deal, I could see how that would make you question the world you thought you lived in. And a self perspective of sanity, is usually code for drifting from the comfortable situations that you were in, were everything is as it seems to be.



    I certainly don't have all the answers but i have a hell of a lot more than I did. You see, this wasn't my only sighting. This stuff has been ongoing throughout my life. I don't think it's coincidence.

    You sure about that, maybe it is just coincidence and aliens chose who to contact at random or even by flipping a coin, or pointing at a map at random, type of thing, after all one human is pretty much as all other humans. They say all grays look alike, maybe all humans look and are, pretty much the same to these aliens. And what do you mean by sighting? We talking abducting here trough out your life, or you seen some unexplained lights in the sky once in a while.



    If you think it's just that easy to forget things that are so foreign and so hard to understand yet still they become incorporated into your life as a very personal memory

    I don't think its easy, but it can be done, depending on what this personal memory is, that has embedded itself into your mind.



    then you aren't understanding why something that can seem so terrifying in some aspects yet you would rather walk right back in to these types of experiences just to further your understanding.

    Me, personally... I don't think I could ever just forget. To always wonder, regardless if i am sane in every other way, is pretty hard to deal with.

    Curiosity killed the cat, but you don't seem like a cat to me, trust me you forget everything in time.



    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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    Ok, I’ll play but first I want to kick my BS button as hard as i can over this thread.

    No evidence, not even a very good account of what happened or what “EBE R611R”, I personally think this is a catalogue number from QVC. I like how you wrote about the MIB, how scared you were of them in one of your posts how they found you and so on. If that was true the last thing I would do is post this story on ATS, I think the MIB will come a ‘knocking anytime soon.

    This is just made up.



    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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    You haven't read the thread mate clearly.
    I said that the 2 MOD men were absolutely fine and polite. I also said that at no point did they say i was not to talk of my experience!!

    I chose not to for personal reasons.

    Your profile picture says it all.



    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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    And for your information i don't lie, my word is my bond and i stand by that.

    I take great offence in some monkey from scotland trying to discredit my experience.
    I take it as a personal insult. People talk about not caring wether they are believed or not, i most certainly do care because i stand by morals and do not lie!
    I cannot begin to express to you how deflated a cheap negative responce like yours makes me feel. You probably will never know because maybe your not a man of truth and thats why you don't have the mental capacity to open your mind.
    Read the thread and actually take in the information before you try and make bad judgement calls!!




    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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    My apologies to anyone reading the rant i just wrote.
    I take things very personally when i am attacked, he clearly hadn't read my accounts fully.



    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 03:23 PM
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    Originally posted by kevinunknown
    MIB, how scared you were of them in one of your posts how they found you and so on. If that was true the last thing I would do is post this story on ATS, I think the MIB will come a ‘knocking anytime soon.



    I don't care if they come knocking i have done nothing wrong

    I am under surveillance all the time, if they were going to do anything surely they would have done it by now.

    Sometimes my wife an i wish they would so we can get some answers and move on, the only thing that worries me is becoming a lab rat or some test dummy.

    sharing my experience on this site is the best thing i have done towards getting information and feed back. I am glad i joined this site.



    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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    I did read it you have no evidence any of this is true absolutely nothing. I am not going to believe a word you say unless it can be independently verified and until you can prove it by default I must therefore conclude you are either mentally ill or a liar. You cannot honestly expect anyone to believe anything you have said to be true based solely on your personal testimony. If this offends you go get the evidence, but it’s not personal so don’t treat is as such.

    Why are you under surveillance and what other strange things have happened to you since this event, more MIB and EBE’s. I find it very hard to believe that your friend who is a expert in counter surveillance would spend tax payers money to put a entire surveillance team on you and then risk breaching the official secrets act to inform you that your are under surveillance form the home office.

    The people on ATS who believe this story only believe it because for them a believe in aliens is like a belief in God, it’s their religion they will believe just about anything you say about a alien encounter or just about any conspiracy without any evidence because they have faith. They believe you in the same way a Catholic believe in Jesus, they will defend you just like a bible basher will protect their holly book. The people who you really need to listen to are us hardcore sceptics because we are the ones who can give you a earthly explanation (I would guess temporary mental illness, sleep deprivation, or narcotics) or catch you out in a lie, I think this is a lie.

    We get loads of people on ATS who make claims like yours, the truth is yours really rather boring in comparison to the other ET encounters. Most of these people (and I suspect you) have delusions of grandeur and a desperate need to be seen as somehow “special” more important than the average man coupled with some impressive creative writing skills. It’s just a cry for attention, its not true, what you said has never happened and unless you can provide evidence to the contrary this belongs in the “Hoax” forum.

    You cannot expect any sane person to believe a word of what you have said without evidence, the burden of proof is on you.



    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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    My friend owns a close protection campany, he put his own men on checking out who was watching me if any, as i wrote in the thread. He found that i was under surveillance by what he discribed as government ops. He came to this conclusion due to their operating techniques.
    Read the thread properly please mate



    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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    Ok i am a stable person and taking a step back i understand how it looks, i was once just as you are a skeptical person and i believe that in some cases it is good to be like this. However it looks this happend to me and that is life.
    I agree with you that the lack of evidence that proves my case is not here so its my word and only my word and as you don't know me from adam this is just a no go for you and i except that.

    I apologies for ranting at you on earlier post i took what you said as a personal insult without tacking a step back and putting myself in your shoes or anybody elses for that matter.

    I cant prove what happened to me and i dont think i ever will be able to. So i take your point i would act the same if this hadn't of happend to me, infact i wouldn't of known about this site and wouldn't of joined.

    As i said earlier "things were allot easier in black and white"

    Also i had up until i joined this site believed the military intellegence men that told me i stumbled into a training exercise and to forget about it, the only reason i didn't just forget about it is because things just didn't add up. This site and my research has lead me to believe what i saw was an ET
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    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 04:24 PM
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    You said he was a “close protection officer” that suggest to me and probably everyone else reading this suggests SO14 (or SO1) of the metropolitan police. You also said he put a surveillance team to watch you and then found out that you were apparently under surveillance form “home office guys”. The way that is wrote it comes across that your friend works for SO14 and spent tax payers money to have you put under surveillance then breached the official secrets act. Now it sounds like you have been caught out by me and are twisting your own words to make it more believable. Regardless of who your friend is, it does not help in proving that you are under surveillance from what you are now calling “government opps” or that you have had an encounter with ET.

    No evidence and your story is full of holes.

    Stop blabbering and nit picking, if you have no evidence this should be in the hoax forum. The burden of proof is on you.



    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 04:34 PM
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    SIA close protection officer look it up
    And he told me that they were home office guys, you are being over critical, If you like i can give you telephone number and i will give you his company name and you can check it up this part i can prove no trouble .



    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 04:37 PM
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    Ok point taken.

    However this does not prove that your story is legitimate, you don’t have any evidence that you saw ET and that MIB paid you a visit.



    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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    This is a reply to the OP:

    You have asked about the sudden transition from fear/terror to calm that you experienced.

    I'm sorry I have to tell you that this very likely means you were the victim of an abduction. The "moment" of transition from fear to calm that you remember is where the missing time is located. Your memory of the abduction ends with that moment of terror, and resumes 2 hours later in the same place, but with you now feeling anesthetized and calm (post-abduction). But because the missing memories have been cut so cleanly, the first moment (of terror) and the second (of calm) have fused into a single conscious memory which contains a seemingly instantaneous change in mood and emotion. This is very common in abduction reports. In fact, many of the subtle details of your story, and subsequent changes in your personality, all strongly suggest a pattern of continued abductions.

    I'm sorry, this can be very traumatizing to many people. My advice to you would be that if you are generally happy, not suffering from nightmares, or having flashbacks, that your best bet would be to leave the whole thing alone. Seeing a hypnotherapist or otherwise exploring the abduction can be incredibly traumatic and scarring, and researchers like Budd Hopkins do NOT recommend pursuing a course of memory recovering unless you are suffering from PTSD or feel that you absolutely have to.

    Thank you for sharing your story with us.



    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 04:40 PM
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    posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 04:58 PM
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    Either way this is very interesting. I've had a look on flashearth and found a satellite view of the site in question.

    www.flashearth.com...



    posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 02:33 PM
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    Sure he has no evidence, but if the situation really happened as he claims, there wouldn't be any evidence. I couldn't prove to ANYBODY that I ate a chilequiles taco yesterday morning and it was freaking delicious. It doesn't mean it didn't happen, it just means there is no proof of the event.

    Of course the OP could be lying flat-out, or he could believe he's telling the truth when in fact his memories fail him. That's a given, that the story is quite possibly BS. But the OP has quite a bit of internally and seemingly externally consistent evidence. A good example of a recent thread which has a much higher BS factor is the one by user "Mooradian" called "THIS COULD CHANGE EVERYTHING, shots exchanged with alien" or something similar, posted just a few days ago. In that thread, I defended objective reasoning as well, which includes understanding that hoax is a given possibility, and that we must be reasonable in considering the poster's situation, the state of mind created by a crazy experience like an ET encounter, etc.

    Your skepticism is appreciated and necessary, of course! But we don't have any evidence for or against this poster, just like we don't have any evidence for Mooradian's thread, beyond our personal judgment of the story.

    Anyways, I just bring that up because the OP sounds willing here to provide as much info as is possible, and I know that if I had a crazy experience like this, I would be hard pressed to have a tripod with HD camera, notebook and/or tape recorder to record EVERYTHING, perfect memory storage and recall, etc. As the OP said, his word is his bond. Yeah people lie, but up until the past say 50 to 100 years, a man's word truly was his bond. The power of language was appreciated more than today. I understand what the OP means, or wants us to think he means, when he says the word is his bond. It really boils down to personal perspective on posts like this. I seriously doubt that this thread/story (like most everything posted on ATS), even if 100% true and a legit ET encounter, will ever lead to new understanding of the ET phenomena or anything else. It will just be an interesting story lending a little support to the ET conspiracy.

    With that said, on with the investigation!

    Stewalters, you can take the photos on a camera, transfer them to your PC, and then use this website to post them on the internet: www.imgur.com

    The last thing you will see on that website is the image displayed on the right-hand side, and a bunch of text boxes with website addresses and other stuff inside them. Look for the one that says "Message Board", copy the text below, and past it into your post here. The image will then show up in your post. Thanks again if you manage to get them posted.

    I find the thing about battery-powered watches not working for you quite intriguing. Could you guess as to whether that started before the EBE R611R incident, or afterwards? Have you had any other experiences involving aliens or UFOs, abductions or just strange experiences unrelated to aliens? Especially any experiences where you felt some time-loss. Are there any parts of your body which feel a bit different after the EBE R611R experience?

    I don't want to create fear, but there is a doctor who has been extracting exotic bio-organic implants from certain people, all of which have a history of alien abduction. These implants don't seem to negatively affect the person, physically or mentally, though they are definitely some strange little machines. Again, even if you have on, it probably won't affect you, but it could be further proof of ET life and its presence on this planet. Here's a video:




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