Athens hit by bomb blast

Athens hit by bomb blast

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A bomb went off outside of a court building in Athens, Greece on Thursday after a warning phone call had allowed police to evacuate the area, a police source said.

"It was a huge blast. I was in the kitchen with my grandchild and the whole building shook. We saw smoke and flames," an elderly woman who lives about 50 metres from the courthouse told Athens radio station Flash.

The blast, which took place shortly after 8.10 am local time (0610 UTC) caused damage to the court building and broke windows on buildings within a 200-meter (219-yard) radius.

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This one was a big one. Not ``Iraq big`` but still... biggest yet in Greece. People are sick of the Greek government and Goldman Sachs raping the population.

This was probably done by anarchist groups.



Wouldn't surprise me if this kind of thing happen in the US multiple times A DAY when the system totally collapses and the GDP crashes 30-40%, unemployment reach 40%+ and there's riots everywhere... which will happen, it's only a question of when.

Explosion damages two court buildings in central Athens; warning call had given authorities time to evacuate - AP about 6 hours ago via breakingnews.com

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yeah i agree that it is probably anarchists and they didnt have murder in mind as they gave a warning, so i cant see it being the turks or al queda.

Warning or not, murder is murder and if someone dies as a result of this blast it is on their irresponsible and crazed shoulders.

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Americans are unlikely to go to the lengths people in Europe will. We didn't during the last Great Depression, while Europe went bonkers.

Its just not in our culture. Sure there will be McVeighs and such, but as a whole, no.

The lack of government leadership and the rise of religious demogogues, an American Khomeini, could create a different kind of disaster though.

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probably because you couldnt get drunk legally and if you caused drunken trouble in the speakeasys, you would have some very scary men to deal with.

Originally posted by lewman
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probably because you couldnt get drunk legally and if you caused drunken trouble in the speakeasys, you would have some very scary men to deal with.

The fact we even had Prohibition from 1919 to 1933, was due to religion. Puritan culture has echoed throughout American history to the present, its one the factors that could drive us into some kind of Protestant Republic.

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Wouldn't surprise me if this kind of thing happen in the US multiple times A DAY when the system totally collapses and the GDP crashes 30-40%, unemployment reach 40%+ and there's riots everywhere... which will happen, it's only a question of when.

Unfortunately people are so busy with the Left vs Right infighting they never bother to look at how TPTB is trying to collapse the system. If we do not acknowledge that the enemy is not "Those Religious Right-Wingnut Tea baggers" or those "Pinko Watermelon Librotards" but the very powerful Banking/Corporate cartels then not only will the US collapse but it will bring down much of the western world with it.


Let me first state over 50% of American jobs come from small business and then lets look at the actual facts:

Dan Estulin warns in his Bilderberg Speech at EU Parliament Press Conference that the Bilderberg ideology is "the ideology is of a ONE WORLD COMPANY LIMITED"

If this is true then we need three things.
Corporate consolidation
Prevention of new business startups
A way to kill off any small businesses
An overarching Association with teeth to enforce the demands of the Cartels

Corporate consolidation

Leveraged buyouts

LEVERAGED BUYOUTS: AMERICANS PAYS THE PRICE January 29, 1989
..... Mergers, acquisitions and L.B.O.'s, which had accounted for less than 5 percent of the profits of Wall Street brokerage houses in 1978, ballooned into an estimated 50 percent of profits by 1988... THROUGH ALL THIS, THE HISTORIC RELATIONSHIP between product and paper has been turned upside down. Investment bankers no longer think of themselves as working for the corporations with which they do business. These days, corporations seem to exist for the investment bankers.... In fact, investment banks are replacing the publicly held industrial corporations as the largest and most powerful economic institutions in America....

U.S. Department of Justice: Concerning Mergers and Corporate Consolidation (1998)
...There can be no doubt that we are currently in the midst of an enormous merger wave that is sweeping the U.S. economy.

To try to grasp the enormous level of on-going merger activity,... We will likely see close to $1.75 trillion worth of U.S. merger activity in 1998, equal to over one-fifth the value of our entire gross national product.

This merger wave is not slowing down; in fact it appears to be increasing. In the last year alone, the value of U.S. merger activity doubled....

... Since 1992, the number of merger filings has tripled. There simply can be no doubt that, however you analyze it, there is an enormous current level of merger activity...

Formation of International Cartels: www.agecon.purdue.edu...

THE GLOBALIZATION OF CORPORATE CRIME: FOOD AND AGRICULTURAL CARTELS OF THE 1990s
The sudden discovery of a global pandemic of international cartels in the mid 1990s, after a hiatus of a half century, is puzzling. That the greatest number and most injurious conspiracies should be clustered in the food and feed ingredients industries adds another element of mystery to the puzzle.

Prevention of new business startups

A way to prevent new business start-ups is through regulatory red tape and taxation.

The tax code, including accompanying regulations, is more than 2.5 million pages. Trying to hunt through all the regs and red tape to try and figure out what laws, regs and tax codes apply to you and how to comply is a nightmare. Worse all of the stuff is written in incomprehensible legalize so even if you do find the law you can not understand it without hiring an Attorney and an Accountant and even THEY can not understand much less keep up with the laws.

Is it any wonder that the Small Business Admin reports: "80% of new businesses fail... Of these failed business, only 10% of them close involuntarily due to bankruptcy and the remaining 90% close because the business was not successful, did not provide the level of income desired or was too much work for their efforts."

A way to kill off any existing small businesses

Despite all the platitudes and rhetoric about this Administration "Helping" small business the exact opposite is occurring.

There are 2.1 million farms of those only 70,642 GROSS over $500,000 (net $50,000 or a lot less) With the new "Food Safety law's. farmers now face massive red tape, 10 years in jail and huge fines you would have to be nuts to continue farming. This of course has been the goal of the Ag Cartel since the 1990's. Wipe out the land prices, then force people to sellout at a fraction of what the land was worth. Or better yet bankrupt them or confiscate the land through fines. Makes sense doesn't it.

NEW 1099 rules
For internet and any business using credit cards, debit cards or paypal, the new 1099 rule just went into place: PayPal Readies for IRS 1099-K Reporting Requirements

For businesses dealing in cash the new rule goes into effect in 2012.

Section 9006 of the health care bill -- just a few lines buried in the 2,409-page document -- mandates that beginning in 2012 all companies will have to issue 1099 tax forms not just to contract workers but to any individual or corporation from which they buy more than $600 in goods or services in a tax year.

The bill makes two key changes to how 1099s are used.... Taken together, the two seemingly small changes will require millions of additional forms to be sent out. money.cnn.com...

Couple all of the above with the 50 employee limit or you must have health insurance mandate from the new Health Care Law and you just wiped out small business growth.

An example of the effect of regulation killing off small business (and therefore jobs) was seen when the international HACCP regulations were put into effect in 1996. The Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) is quite clear about HACCP’s ability to drive small businesses into bankruptcy:

“HACCP rules mandated across an industry will have different impacts on the industry, depending on the market structure of the industry. ...

Industry leaders predict that the regulation will drive small producers out of business. The actual effects on small producers will depend on the cost disadvantage faced by small firms, and the degree to which small plants can raise prices in the event they face a cost disadvantage...

For the United States meat and poultry industry, economists predict that if small producers do exit the industry, the pattern will be an increase in the rate of exits and decrease in the rate of entries” www.fao.org...

So the US government KNOWINGLY increased regulatory red tape and cost to bankrupt more businesses.

On March 19, 2010, the FSIS published a draft guidance document on HACCP system validation, outlining new rules which would institute regular, year-round testing of all meats, whether or not problems have been identified. The proposal recommends testing for testing's sake, and it will cost small plants tens of thousands of dollars, perhaps even hundreds of thousands, every year. The financial burden appears great enough that this will destroy much of the remaining community-based meat processing industry... www.theatlantic.com...

AAMP fears that more than half of the 10,000 inspected small and very small meat processing plants across the nation may fold in the face of HACCP implementation.

AAMP launched a survey of its members after the convention, trying to get an appraisal of the cost of implementing HACCP at the small and very small plant level.

Survey responses have been interesting. One AAMP member, who has been operating HACCP on an experimental basis, reported his plant production has dropped drastically because of the time it takes to do the paperwork. Other responses indicate that plants with only a few employees will have to shut down to do the HACCP record-keeping work.... www.dewigmeats.com...

Please note the spike in food illness was CAUSED by HACCP and imports. The Festering Fraud Behind Food Safety Reform

And here is MORE regulation that will either add to the cost of food and/or drive restaurant and other vendors of food out of business: investing.businessweek.com...||11 09/2010%202:27%20AM%20ET||headline||Vending%20machine%20industry%20decries%20calorie%20labeling%20effort%20[Chicago%20Tribune]||docSource||The%20McCla tchy%20Company||provider||ACQUIREMEDIA||realtedsyms||

It would seem that our Government is intent on killing the country. Regulations add nothing of value and do nothing to increase the wealth of a country. This is especially true when the Corporate Cartels are getting Congress to pass "Law of Privilege" or "Private Law" The concept of a private law, when applied punitively, is covered by the term bill of attainder.

Originally posted by jibeho
Warning or not, murder is murder and if someone dies as a result of this blast it is on their irresponsible and crazed shoulders.

Loss of life is something which should truly be avoided but there does come a point where people have to stand up for what they believe in because they get so desperate. Would you call the founding fathers of the USA crazed murders or the leaders of the French Revolution Murders.

There sometimes comes a point where a government or power crosses the line and people feel they have no alternative. In the case of the founding fathers it was the British Empire in the case of the Greeks it is their government and the EU.

Ideally it would never come to this and it probably won't go any further but sometimes you gotta grab someone round the scruff of the neck to make em listen.

What is the point of blowing stuff up,.
Attack the people in charge of the issues,.
this kind of response is ridicules.
I'd think when the officials start disappearing or their homes blow up
maybe things would change,.but building with innocent people? why

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I agree, attacking innocent people it not the best way to gather support and is also just taking a cheap shot at possibly the wrong people, if one was to be violent then more political and corporate targets may be more legitimate for the course.

But that begs the question "who's innocent?" can you tell me. After all it was the people of Greece that voted to government into power, it is the people that buy the goods that support the supposed corrupt organizations. We all play a part in what ever society we live in and ignorance of the situation is not the best excuse.

If you ask me I would like to believe that everything could be resolved peacefully but we also have to look through the eyes of the bombers and start asking ourselves some questions.

If your not actively changing the world or funding an idea, voting or boycotting corruption are you so innocent?

So who is wupposed to be responsible for this ? Some terroristic organizations ?

Even greek citizens fighting for a better life for their kids and families without the massive debt hung over them by the international bankers are terrorists if they get violent are they not?
Terrorism is a relative term....if you are terrorising the NWO are you a BAD terrorist or a GOOD one?
This is where the definition changes depending which side you are on.......
Truth be known, the US had its own goverment intitiate the most of the worst terror attacks on its own people.
9/11.oklahoma,USS Maddox, pearl harbour, USS Maine,the list goes on.......