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"Internet a very large-scale spying machine" – info leaking site co-founder

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posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 04:01 AM
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The way I see it, who cares? I haven't published anything that half of the world doesn't already know... I talk about personal accounts I've had that I can't prove nor will anyone online be able to prove.

So, what's the big deal?

If "they" want to spy on me at least they'll get first hand intelligence of me verbally bashing my ex girlfriend over the phone or via chat, maybe catch a line or two about a couple of new hacking exploits from #2600 on IRC (I'm not a hacker by any means, I'm simply a Network Security enthusiast)

Oh, also I'm sure they have a moderate to large archive of my taste in downloaded and surfed porn.

Eek!! Time to grab the bug out bag and head for the hills.


WHO CARES PEOPLE?
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posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 04:02 AM
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well this is a suprise is it not...wow a suspected infringment of privacy omg the revelations the concept the increduality....just like phone calls are private....or text meassages...comon it is a data stream...and data streams can be intercepted...as we move to fibre optics though that data stream gets harder and harder to intercept...but lets not forget where the web originated from shall we....


History of the Internet

1969
-- Birth of Internet
ARPANET commissioned by DoD for research into networking

Why is this relevant?

First node at UCLA (Los Angeles) closely followed by nodes at Stanford Research Institute, UCSB (Santa Barbara) and U of Utah (4 Nodes).


1971
-- People communicate over a network
15 nodes (23 hosts) on ARPANET.
E-mail invented -- a program to send messages across a distributed network. Why is this relevant?


E-mail is still the main way of inter-person communication on the Internet today.
We will study how to use and send E-mail shortly in this course.
You will make extensive use of E-mail for the rest of your life.


1972
-- Computers can connect more freely and easily
First public demonstration of ARPANET between 40 machines.
Internetworking Working Group (INWG) created to address need for establishing agreed upon protocols.
Why is this relevant?



Telnet specification
Telnet is still a relevant means of inter-machine connection today.


1973
-- Global Networking becomes a reality
First international connections to the ARPANET: University College of London (England) and Royal Radar Establishment (Norway)
Ethernet outlined -- this how local networks are basically connected today.
Internet ideas started.
Gateway architecture sketched on back of envelope in hotel lobby in San Francisco. Gateways define how large networks (maybe of different architecture) can be connected together.
File Transfer protocol specified -- how computers send and receive data.


1974
-- Packets become mode of transfer
Transmission Control Program (TCP) specified. Packet network Intercommunication -- the basis of Internet Communication.
Telenet, a commercial version of ARPANET, opened -- the first public packet data service.


source


suprise the DOD....there in lays the answer...shucks.


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posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by Slichter
Another way to look at it is that all the click through on web sites is just a huge voting machine.
Surely the PTB will be offering up flavors of "popular" interest for their agendas. You can cloth a NWO agenda any number of different ways, even the big super pharmacies are offering to flavor your medicine.


You're absolutely right! Something as simple as clicking 'Like' on an advertisement, etc. tells TPTB exactly what Americans want to see. Anyone else notice how the whole 'Like' button has evolved much further than Facebook? It's everywhere now... A huge voting machine. Couldn't have said it better myself. Star for you, buddy.



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 04:07 AM
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S+F for you.

Nothing that any of us didn't suspect.The only thing that we can do is give as less info about ourselves as we can.
If they want to spy on me,i say let them do it.I have nothing to hide.What are they gonna do?Make me disappear?

I don't use facebook,myspace and all the similar sites anyway.Never liked them.The moment i started using the internet i knew that anyone at any given time could have access in what i wrote,what i was searching.
I entered at my own risk.

Stop using it?Nope.I won't cause a bunch of agencies have nothing better to do.

And guys from the agencies a word of advice:GET A LIFE



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 04:23 AM
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well i always thought that the best way to access the net was to lie....so just so people can all know my addy i live at 90210 Beverly Hills.
Those poor people are going tohave the authorities knocking at their door a lot.
I wonder how many people actually live there now.
I would use my real name GOD but then it seems to hurt peoples ears when i speak then.
but other than that....the internet is like practicising safe sex.....always use a condom....and a fake id if all else fails.
but if you think about it these very words i am typing has left a trail right frommy isp to here....so there is not real protection cause once the know who your provider is nothing to stop them from finding out where the originator is.
but really shold you be worried about it unless your doing something wrong anyways....cause we have not quite hit the point of thought crimes.



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by Throwback
I notice none of you have stopped using the internet yet...


Why would I?

I do not use it as a frivolous toy.



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 06:05 AM
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To the three or four people using this thread to say "get over it people, you are being silly" or "this thread again!?"

Get it right...this thread is about a report from a source "more in the know" and "personally involved" with the "information leaking" so many are interested in posting about. Not "just another opinion created in the grey area forum".

The topic is important (to many of us) and some would say it lends closer truth to a suspected "fraud".

Forgive us all for having something to say about that.

Gee...us silly gossipers. When will we ever learn?

MM
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posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 06:13 AM
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but if you think about it these very words i am typing has left a trail right frommy isp to here....so there is not real protection cause once the know who your provider is nothing to stop them from finding out where the originator is. but really shold you be worried about it unless your doing something wrong anyways....cause we have not quite hit the point of thought crimes.

They can find you,if they really want to.But they have bigger fishes to catch.Thinking is a crime to them,fortunatelly there are no laws against it yet.Otherwise we would all be in jail by now.



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 06:17 AM
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This is news!!! Bizarre - I thought it stood to reason that the net would be used by tptb to gauge the thinking of the populace and to weed out perceived, or actual, undesireables.

Their agenda is always going to be put in place but they gauge our mood via the net to determine the most palatable means of presenting us with it. It could be by fear mongering, by appealing to our humanity, by manifestating in the form of the nannying state, or simply by appealing to our common sense. They just want to find their angle.



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by SKIN-E
Especially all the included webcams on laptops as standard I figured this much, but who knows? They need to put whatever firmware they use for that out and maybe it will be more easily proven in my opinion

www.myspace.com...


First off, you're having trouble making sense and nobody understands you. Second, the myspace link you put in every one of your posts and signature links to mal-ware/infected material. Please remove it.


Cheers,
Strype



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 06:35 AM
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heck lol...of course they could find me...but i could find them too...the thing is most of us have the same tools at our fingertips for tracking and searching and hunting down people if we want to...just ask any debt collector...lol
but as you say...they have bigger fish to fry....mmmm i could just go for a nice pan fried trout about now.



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 06:38 AM
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interesting info on crypto.
2011 will be crazy.

move to the american southwest to be safe...



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by Lil Drummerboy
reply to post by MikeboydUS
 
and yet I say it again,.
so what,.
unless you hold a close attachment to the superficial life that is the internet,.
why does it really matter



How does someone pulling your social security number and all other info along with it (adress etc, you name it) not relate to your physical life?

Materialistic or not you won't be the first who got their house broken in to because of a nice car or something you put on Ebay/Craigslist/Marktplaats whatever



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 06:49 AM
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Originally posted by Values_Truth
Eventually supercomputers will be able to monitor ever aspect of the web unless you encrypt your data flow. Make friends with friendly hackers because they ARE the only protectors of privacy in this new world of ours. I think ATS needs a forum dedicated to internet security and privacy.


Too little,

Too late.



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by WashingtonGrewHemp
reply to post by Misoir
 


interesting info on crypto.
2011 will be crazy.

move to the american southwest to be safe...


The American southwest, you mean the frontlines of our next war?

Not exactly my idea of safe.



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 07:09 AM
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Tracking device on pg 1 of this thread.

Before I signed in today, half way down pg 1 was an ad by ZOOMBAK for a tiny hand size tracking device.

Interesting that it appeared on this thread.



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 07:19 AM
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You know what i love is when people are so care free that they put on their MSN or FACEBOOK that they will be on holiday for the next few weeks....opurtunity rears it's ugly little head...and then you have kids on them putting on their walls meet me here or we are going to this place....i have always taught my kids it isan internet highway so threat it as the streets...cause it is just the same....do not give out any unnecessary details or information that can lead someone to your location.
but hey to each their own.



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 07:23 AM
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well that happened to me last week i was looking at a freezer from pixmia and that was the first time i had ever been on that site...then when i signed in here sure enough there was a banner add for the same thing...I immediately went in and deleted my cookies and it was gone....people should really get in the habit of deleting their cookies to avoid being targeted with adds.



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 07:42 AM
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S&F But...


This definitely gives more credibility to the ‘WikiLeaks is a scam’ crowd.


I wonder. Seems to me that maybe Wikileaks broke the rules and opened a few cans of worms nobody wanted opened. ...?



posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 08:03 AM
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Correct OP.
I have been spying on people on the internet since the DOS Browsers, BBS, TelNets, ETC!


I do think it's funny how they recognize this, only after, a well known paranoid nut, says so!

I have seen things that would make most people's jaws hit the ground! I keep telling you all: "If you want a tour, sign up! I can take you!!!" I have yet to get a response from anyone... Oh well!

Look at my join date. Look at my name. Have you put it together yet?



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