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Rendlesham forest, "Ancient Aliens" episode 30.12.10 and binary numbers

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posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 12:08 PM
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The message (if real) seems to be an answer to the question of what it was doing here and perhaps its origins. Perhaps the object was able somehow to read his mind and the message was an interactive response?




posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky
I can think of a particular group of British UFO aficionados who will be laughing loudly at this...and who can blame them?


Hi Kandinsky,

The laughter started yesterday.

The laughter will be considerably louder today when they see the mass confusion across the Internet in relation to the "possible message", with more and more forums starting yet more threads independently of, and ignoring information that emerged in, other discussions that have already taken place...


edit on 1-1-2011 by IsaacKoi because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Fascinating.

Thank you OP.

(this doesnt mean i agree)



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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Isaac, great link. Thanks for posting.

Not to get to far off the mark, but let's say it is true. The whole event, everything. I don't like the word "advance". It makes me take pause. As we've seen in our own history, visitors to foreign lands aren't always too nice. They also rewrite history. For an alien race to become so advanced probably didn't happen by them being super-nice. They seemed to "advance" in the film Fire in the Sky" (base on true events).

Hopefully, they find us intelligent or worthy to throw us another morsel and not cancel the show they seem to be watching called "Earth"



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by RobBalsamo
Thank you OP.


My pleasure.



(this doesnt mean i agree)


Well, I haven't expressed any final conclusions yet - just shared some thoughts and some of the information I've obtained so far.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:14 PM
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After playing the videos I was able to identify four blocks of binary data:

Block 1
0101010101001111010101010101001101010001100100111101010010010100000 1001100010000010100111001000101010101000100000010101001001011001010 000010100010001010110010000010100111000011100100010010000111

Block 2
0100010101011000010100000100110001001111010100100100000101010100010
0100101001111010011100100111101000111010010000101010101001101010000
010100111001001001010101000101100100110110011011001101100111000


Block 3
0011000101100100110100001100100011010100110011001100100100111000110
0010011001100110001001100110011000100110010001101100011100101010111
010000110100111101001110010101000100100100101001110


Block 4
0100011001001110101010101010100100101010001001000010000110100111101
0011110100010001001001000011100100000101010100010001010100001101001
1110101001110010101000100100101001110010101010100111101010100010101
01010100010101001110


Converting the above binary data into ASCII I got this:

Block 1 - UOUSQ“Ô”S‘U*K((ŠÈ)Ñ!
Block 2 - EXPLORATIONOGHUMANITY6lÙ
Block 3 - 1dÐÈÔÌÉ8ÄÌÄÌÄÈØå]=9Q$§
Block 4 - FNª©*$!§§¢$‡ ª"¡§©Ê‰)ʩꊪ*


After playing a little with the data (by removing bits from the left, as if they were the end of a previous, incomplete, block of bits, I got this:

Block 1 - U=UMFORPLANET@©, ¢+ §D‡      2 bits removed from the left
Block 2 - EXPLORATIONOGHUMANITY6lÙ     0 bits removed from the left
Block 3 - Y42532N13131269WCONTI)Æ       6 bits removed from the left
Block 4 - ŒURTHCOODIATECOS•S•SÕTT    1 bit removed from the left
or
2uUIQ!==$9Q=NTINUOTUQS    3 bits removed from the left


Block 4 had two possibilities with readable letter sequences, so I included both.
edit on 1/1/2011 by ArMaP because: corrected quote tag



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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It shouldn't come as any great surprise that an alien message would come via binary code. How long did it take man to figure out the Earth wasn't flat or linear perspective to be utilized in our paintings? We think in 2 dimensions.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
After playing the videos I was able to identify four blocks of binary data:


Hi ArMaP,

You may seen that I've quoted information from a person on another forum ("happytohelp" of the UFO Research Network forum at this link) attempting similar transcriptions.

In the same way that I quoted that person's work above (with his permission, and that of the moderators of that forum), do you mind if I similarly quote your work elsewhere (giving, of course, credit to you and a link back to your post back here on the ATS forum)?

I'm just trying to improve the efficiency of the discussion of the purported message by pointing out some of the more significant contributions made on various forums, but it seems increasingly clear to me that I'm fighting a losing battle given the increasing amount of duplication in discussions that I can currently see taking place on various forums online...

All the best,

Isaac



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:17 PM
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Chestnuts roasting on an open fire...





posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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Thank you Isaac for posting this. Earlier you said that you would state your beliefs on this. Can you elaborate?



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
After playing the videos I was able to identify four blocks of binary data:

Block 1
0101010101001111010101010101001101010001100100111101010010010100000 1001100010000010100111001000101010101000100000010101001001011001010 000010100010001010110010000010100111000011100100010010000111

Block 2
0100010101011000010100000100110001001111010100100100000101010100010
0100101001111010011100100111101000111010010000101010101001101010000
010100111001001001010101000101100100110110011011001101100111000


Block 3
0011000101100100110100001100100011010100110011001100100100111000110
0010011001100110001001100110011000100110010001101100011100101010111
010000110100111101001110010101000100100100101001110


Block 4
0100011001001110101010101010100100101010001001000010000110100111101
0011110100010001001001000011100100000101010100010001010100001101001
1110101001110010101000100100101001110010101010100111101010100010101
01010100010101001110


Converting the above binary data into ASCII I got this:

Block 1 - UOUSQ“Ô”S‘U*K((ŠÈ)Ñ!
Block 2 - EXPLORATIONOGHUMANITY6lÙ
Block 3 - 1dÐÈÔÌÉ8ÄÌÄÌÄÈØå]=9Q$§
Block 4 - FNª©*$!§§¢$‡ ª"¡§©Ê‰)ʩꊪ*


After playing a little with the data (by removing bits from the left, as if they were the end of a previous, incomplete, block of bits, I got this:

Block 1 - U=UMFORPLANET@©, ¢+ §D‡      2 bits removed from the left
Block 2 - EXPLORATIONOGHUMANITY6lÙ     0 bits removed from the left
Block 3 - Y42532N13131269WCONTI)Æ       6 bits removed from the left
Block 4 - ŒURTHCOODIATECOS•S•SÕTT    1 bit removed from the left
or
2uUIQ!==$9Q=NTINUOTUQS    3 bits removed from the left



Block 4 had two possibilities with readable letter sequences, so I included both.


Thanks for posting! I was able to verity that it's not EBCDIC or Modern ASCII.
I was able to find a 7-bit code chart that dates back to 1963. I will run the binary and see what it comes up with.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by ArcAngel
Thank you Isaac for posting this.


My pleasure.



Earlier you said that you would state your beliefs on this. Can you elaborate?


I did?? Could you remind me where I said it? It doesn't sound like me, since I generally tend to limit myself to posting facts and resources rather than my beliefs - but I did have a bit to drink with my wife last night to celebrate the New Year...



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 04:12 PM
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After playing a little more with it, this is what I got.


Block 1
0101010101001111010101010101001101010001100100111101010010010100000 1001100010000010100111001000101010101000100000010101001001011001010 000010100010001010110010000010100111000011100100010010000111

By removing the two leftmost bits (as I said in my previous post) and one zero in the position in which the characters stop making sense I got this resulting block 1, with the removed bits in yellow:

0101010101001111010101010101001101010001100100111101010010010100000
1001100010000010100111001000101010101000100000010101001001011001010
000010100010001010110010000010100111000011100100010010000111

Resulting text:

U=UMFORPLANETARYADVAN‰


Applying the same idea to block 4 gave me this:
1000110010011101010101010101001001010100010010000100001101001111010
0111101000100010010010000111001000001010101000100010101000011010011
1101010011100101010001001001010011100101010101001111010101000101010
1010100010101001110

Resulting text:

ŒURTHCOODIATECOSÔINUOTUQS

It may not make sense, but at least it's a sequence of letters.


 


In the same way that I quoted that person's work above (with his permission, and that of the moderators of that forum), do you mind if I similarly quote your work elsewhere (giving, of course, credit to you and a link back to your post back here on the ATS forum)?
Sure.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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ŒURTHCOODIATECOSÔINUOTUQS


Almost looks like it says Earth coordinates



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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With attempting to decipher the code, have you tried using pre-binary code such that was used during the year the code was delivered? Ya, I know it has a terminology ebidc or something as opposed to ascii. Try that, it will be similar, but some of the random things may actually come out as numbers or punctuation marks.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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I tried it first, but it only returned control codes and unprintable characters.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 05:59 PM
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lol. That video was great! The guy in question babbles a nonsense answer. UFO LUNATIC DRUNKARD #1 then cuts in with some "good old boy" nonsense that's supposed to make us say, "Ohhhh! Okay, they're good people so therefore we should ignore the fact that this guy sat on an alien message for 30 years!!!"

Rendelsham at one point was one of the best cases we had. I'm telling you, this might have killed it.

I always thought that, it being 1980 at the time, and the U.S. aware of Russia's interest in UFOs, maybe the U.S. created this elaborate fake "UFO DISCOVERY" in one of their many Cold War chess moves. I mean, the whole "talking into a tape recorder" sequence was great theater, but kind of suspicious when you really think about it.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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Absolutely fascinating, the web gets deeper!

It's possible I've missed it somewhere, but am I right in thinking that the decoded message hasn't been released and the only info we have is what was taken from the TV show? I watched the clip, and didn't get much from it. Surely they got more than a half dozen words and some coordinates from 12 pages?

If so, any news on the full message contents or if/when it will be released? Are they withholding it for a book release or something? I can understand the guys wanting to make something out of it for their pensions and all, but this could be such a significant event that it's almost irresponsible to do that - certainly leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

Great post OP, have you passed on the suggestions about the different binary systems from that era to Nick Ciske?

I can recommend Larry Warren's book on the subject btw, interesting read indeed.

Hey, maybe the full binary code is the key to the Wikileaks insurance file



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by GoldenChild
I watched the clip, and didn't get much from it. Surely they got more than a half dozen words and some coordinates from 12 pages?
Everything points to a binary message coded in ASCII.

In binary we need 8 digits to represent the code for one letter, so it's easy for a 12 page binary message end up as just some words.

As an example, this is ArMaP in binary:
0100000101110010010011010110000101010000

PS: although ASCII can use only 7 bits, this message uses 8 bit codes, apparently.



posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
In binary we need 8 digits to represent the code for one letter, so it's easy for a 12 page binary message end up as just some words.


Mmm. Hang on a moment...

One basic point that I don't think anyone has picked up on so far : How many pages are there?

The coverage of the press conference referred to in my OP suggests that there were 12 pages. There are numerous references to "12 pages" in the video kindly posted by Kandinsky above. Just listen to the first minute or so - I'll embed the video below for ease of reference:



Now, compare that with the number of pages mentioned in the extracts below from the relevant episode of "Ancient Aliens":


At 3 minutes 40 seconds into this extract from the episode, the narrator says that Jim Penniston entrusted his "6 handwritten pages" to a computer programmer (Nick Ciske) for analysis.

At 3 minutes 57 seconds into this extract from the episode, Nick Ciske remarks (as I quoted above) on whether someone could write out "6 pages" of binary.

Well, I thought this point was interesting...

All the best,

Isaac



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