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Rendlesham forest, "Ancient Aliens" episode 30.12.10 and binary numbers

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posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 08:46 PM
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Anyone else seem to get the feeling that Jim is hiding behind others (Linda and Nick)?

Why does he seem to be obfuscating and vague?


::::dismayed::::




posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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I've been looking a bit further into the coordinates given and comparing them to the most well known map printed with the mythical island of Hy Brazil by Abraham Ortelius in 1572. They have a good color photo over at Wikipedia.

Hy Brazil

The coordinates, although relatively close, still push us hundreds of miles south of the reported location of the island. In fact it seems to fall right on top of Porcupine Bank just off of Ireland. (Which I believe has been mentioned in other posts)

Some interesting tidbits that I picked up about Porcupine Bank:

It seems that the area surrounding Porcupine Bank has been an area of interest to Marine Biologists because of it's almost unnatural state of its coral reefs.

“These are by far the most pristine, thriving and hence spectacular examples of cold-water coral reefs that I’ve encountered in almost ten years of study in Irish waters." - Dr Anthony Grehan Link to Quote

"one of the last untapped reservoirs of potentially useful bio-compounds that might support the development of new anti-viral or anti-bacterial pharmaceuticals." - Dr Anthony Grehan Link to Quote

"In 1934 the trawler Muroto, working out of Cardiff, dredged up a 2nd century AD Roman pot while fishing on the Porcupine Bank 250km west of the west coast of Ireland', to this day noone is sure how it ended up in the middle of the bank. Link here

Not sure if this really adds anything actually......but it's interesting none the less.







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posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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This whole thing couldn't get any more frustrating...It's their case, not Linda Howe's!!! I'm wondering if the response you received was some sort of stock response he's giving due to many e-mails on the subject; either way, this whole thing stinks. But i would like to see the rest of the binary translated.....

oh and for those interested in another interpretation of the text ATS member GodKilla posted this response in the other thread about this subject.

"If this code interpreted in reverse, maybe the message could read:
[sic] Advanced Planetary UFO [which can be found at these Global coordinates] Use For Humanity Exploration. "

I thought it sound pretty neat, even though I don't truly believe the authenticity of the whole thing.

Here is the thread i'm talking about with Godkilla's post.
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posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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"Jim Penniston also told the Woodbridge Community Hall audience on December 28, 2010, that he still has several more pages of binary code in his notebook that he has not yet released for public consideration."



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by chaosdh
"Jim Penniston also told the Woodbridge Community Hall audience on December 28, 2010, that he still has several more pages of binary code in his notebook that he has not yet released for public consideration."


Just to make things clear, the words quoted by chaosdh appear at the end of Part 3 of LMH's article that I mentioned above, just above the quote I included about the different coordinates.

I still haven't seen a firm figure for the number of pages of code. I've quoted Jim Penniston above as referring to having written "12 ... 14" pages.


All the best,

Isaac



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by IsaacKoi
Just to make things clear, the words quoted by chaosdh appear at the end of Part 3 of LMH's article that I mentioned above, just above the quote I included about the different coordinates.

I still haven't seen a firm figure for the number of pages of code. I've quoted Jim Penniston above as referring to having written "12 ... 14" pages.


All the best,

Isaac


Thanks for the link, It also has James hypnosis sessions,
So the UFO is from the future, they are us.

Time Travelers



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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Anyone else notice how in World of Warcraft Northrend is like the North Pole Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms are like Europe and America.And this coordinates seem to set right where a new island rises in World of warcraft Cataclysm.Then when the island rises the Horde and Alliance battle for the land.Anyoen else noticing something coming together?



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 09:46 PM
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hmm On Linda's site, the regression transcripts:

AND BY TOUCHING THE SYMBOLS, YOU DISRUPTED THE REPAIR PROGRAM?
I activatged a binary code.


I'm pretty sure he said in the video of the recent rendelsham conference footage, or perhaps it was the ancient aliens documentary, that he did'n know what a binary code was.

Plus Linda (she must have some money, she can certainly afford plastic surgery) seems to have taken this whole thing under her wing, I've never known her to be associated with the case.



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 10:10 PM
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Couple of questions here:

1) The texts are vague as far as whether "Hy Brazil" is a mythical island or a real island. So which is it? They say that people have visited it, but then the very next sentence say it's talked about in fairy tales. So I'm trying to figure out if this thing is real or not.

2) Many of you have pointed out that they changed some 1's and 0's around to correct for faulty memory and fix the "likely" words in the message. That's fine if you're changing "Advancf" to "Advance." But in those numbers used in the coordinates, don't those need to be exact? I mean if he screwed up the memory of some letters, who's to say that a "4" isn't really an "8" in the coordinate numbers?



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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Wiki has a page for Hy Brasil - "Brasil" along with a map from 1572 showing its location for those who are interested.

Brazil (Mythical Island)



posted on Jan, 2 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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I don't think the Hy Brazil side of the story is much of a concern in this case, just the codes, what they translate to, the credibility of the case as a whole in light of this new 'evidence', and the evasive and defensive nature of the people involved.



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 01:12 AM
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Hi there,
after reading tons and lots of threads on a forums and wiki sites about AT and cover-ups regarding this particular topic I've decided to write my own opinion and suggestions which is as follows:

1. At the time of message being sent it must have been researched for a while to make correct and understandable meaning for us - humans.

2. There is possibility that at that given time there was a secret military satellites and public ones which leads to assumption: the binary code must have been encoded prior to sending to earth or the opposite to protect form "enemy's hands". Therefore we will never know 100% what the message was, unless we get those decode keys for the binary data.

3. At the time more than 90% transmissions was a English writing or commands and.. encoded intelligence gathered images from satellites.

4. IT IS obvious that "they" who sent the message are advanced race beings and that message encoding or whatever would be like cracking a nut in a matter of seconds.

5. Why send binary code? What was the primary communication language used in space through satellites? Binary. Why? This eliminates a possibility of a fault. So therefore IT IS logic to think, that earth habitats use binary code widely to communicate to each other.

6. Just an idea.. what if we speak alien not native or self made English?


7. We don't know the motives for this message or show-ups nearly for all human known history for centuries. Why we would know now?

8. IT IS obvious that the government controls every bit of information nowadays, risk that simple humans will be miss-leaded is high enough.

9. There are many theories and cover-ups indeed.. but none of them became crystal clear.

10. USA military was always a secret nest for many cover-ups and stories. I think, that they already have a communication ways to other beings and preparing themselves for a upcoming 'event'. What kind of 'event'? I dunno, but this starting to show up more and more through the recent years, when people tend to release a bits of information here and there and to think more with open mind and fearless to be treated as idiots or whatever.


p.s.: I believe that there is AT and those cover-ups are real BS.



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 01:40 AM
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He was also quite angry on another thread when he was challenged on the validity of his dream.

In his interview with the German journo he was able to describe how he received the information, he rambles a bit, mentions his minds eye and flashes of info coming to him, funny that isnt it, they have sketchy memories about the night but he remembers receiveing a message and hasnt told anyone (not even his co-conspirator) well I have some pretty weird dreams sometimes and if someone said to me, why did you dream about ([insert your weird dream] 5 red flying teletubby like creatures just flying in a line bobbing up and down and one little cheeky one grabbed an electric cable to give another a shock, they laughed and flew off out of the room)

My response, how the hell do I know where these visions come from, I wouldnt try to explain them away or try to mitigate the weird ass that happens upstairs, maybe the guy is a autistic.



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 02:59 AM
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From: www.earthfiles.com

Also did anyone look at the arebico binary code?

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posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by Smugallo
I don't think the Hy Brazil side of the story is much of a concern in this case, just the codes, what they translate to,


This is, of course, particularly true if the co-ordinates used for the "Ancient Aliens" episode are based on an incorrect transcription of the numbers in Jim Penniston's notebook - as suggested in the material by LMH that I highlighted above.

I look forward to seeing whether Armap and others that have spent time on the screen-shots from that episode now revise their transcriptions and decodings in the light of those scans.

It probably goes without saying that if the transcription was incorrect and this wasn't picked up by any of those involved in the show before the broadcast, this would highlight the need to treat the content of that episode with a lot of caution.

As one skeptic commented to me last night, "what fun" (!).

All the best,

Isaac
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posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 04:26 AM
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It is clear that the binary code is not fully correct. Some words make no sense and others are in the wrong order. Nothing further can be gained from decoding the binary. The message’s true meaning can be found by correcting and rearranging words to form a grammatical significance. The word “cepr” for example doesn’t exist and is possibly a misspelling of “fear” and the out of context word “fourth” is more likely “source”. The last seven binaries of page 1 make no sense so have to be force-fitted to maintain grammatical flow. It is possible the two words were deliberately obfuscated.

Here, then is the amended binary (the geographical coordinates have been excluded):

01100011 01101111 01101111 01110010 01100100 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110100 01100101 00100000 01100011 01101111 01101110 01110100 01101001 01101110 01110101 01101111 01110101 01110011 00100000 01100110 01100101 01100001 01110010 00100000 01100010 01100101 01100110 01101111 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110000 01101100 01100001 01101110 01100101 01110100 01100001 01110010 01111001 00100000 01100001 01100100 01110110 01100001 01101110 01100011 01100101 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 00100000 01100101 01111000 01110000 01101100 01101111 01101001 01110100 01100001 01110100 01101001 01101111 01101110 00100000 01101111 01100110 00100000 01101000 01110101 01101101 01100001 01101110 01101001 01110100 01111001 00100000 01100110 01101111 01110010 00100000 01100110 01101111 01101111 01100100 00100000 01110011 01101111 01110101 01110010 01100011 01100101




And the decoded message:

COORDINATE CONTINUOUS FEAR BEFORE PLANETARY ADVANCE FOR EXPLOITATION OF HUMANITY FOR FOOD SOURCE



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 04:35 AM
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Originally posted by torsion
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And the decoded message:

COORDINATE CONTINUOUS FEAR BEFORE PLANETARY ADVANCE FOR EXPLOITATION OF HUMANITY FOR FOOD SOURCE



Sounds like nothing good promising at all...



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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Originally posted by yankprintster

That puts 52.16181444N, 1.5253525W nearly right on Highway B4086 in the UK (Warwickshire).

... does anything show up on the satellite images that would make either of those spots on land to look interesting?


The only interesting things I could find at that location are these:

aerial view:



entrance to "bunker":




posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 05:40 AM
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In regards to the scans I believe the character values they have represented are roughly 90% accurate. However I am afraid that the remaining 10% will be difficult to correct as it is caused simply by human error. We can take stabs in the dark to correct the characters but I personally would only like to see 2 bits of data per character altered(AT MOST).

There is a few things I contemplated while analyzing the data.

All of the alphabetical characters are CAPITALS. Which means with every set of 8 bits to make a capital character must begin with the 3 bits "010".
My thoughts and opinions are this. If someone were to "Make Up" such data they would have the natural urge not to repeat such patterns.
He does space most of his values in sets of 8's. Which means he would have recognized that majority of the 8 bit sets started with "010". From my point of view and if i was in his shoes, i would have felt like i was repeating the same data over and over and that it would have made very little sense, if any at all. I would have been fighting myself to keep repeating this same pattern. That is unless i had a VERY CLEAR mental picture(as claimed) or it was being told to me by someone sitting at a computer.
It is less likely that he copied it himself from a computer because his spacing between the sets would have been more accurate. He would have lost track of where he is constantly.
I can attest to this first hand as im sure ArMap can as well. The 0's and 1's play tricks on your eyes/mind and you are easily "lost".
One way to compensate for this is by slowing down and using some sort of marker such as the mouse arrow. But this would mean his writing would have been more tidy. Staying in the blue lines of the paper and keeping more accurate sets of 8 bits.

I dont think there is any question of him RANDOMLY generating the data from his mind. The odds of this would be somewhere near 1,000,000,000 to 1.

So the question is still what was his source. Maybe what i've said will shed some light, maybe not.
Anyway my final opinion is that he is telling the truth and he seen it in his minds eye(as miraculous as it sounds) OR he had it read to him audibly.



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by torsion
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And the decoded message:

COORDINATE CONTINUOUS FEAR BEFORE PLANETARY ADVANCE FOR EXPLOITATION OF HUMANITY FOR FOOD SOURCE




You what, that is one chilling message right there, regardless of authenticity!!



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