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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
People really need to look deep within themselves and take the blinds off their eyes and look at the sick rituals that they perform.
Originally posted by babloyi
Although..it seems prudent to mention that the halal method of slaughter does not allow for the animal to be in the presence of other animals when it is slaughtered, and that the knife shouldn't be visible to the animal until the very last second.
Originally posted by glen200376
This halal nonsense is ridiculous in the U.K.Places such as subway and most fast food joints now sell only halal,personly surely I should have a choice to eat or not halal/kosher meat?Mcdonalds is about the only place that doesn't sell it-that's why I eat there only.Usually the E.U. makes silly annoying rules but this one I'm all for,not only do we pander to these people,we now have to eat like them.Another example of muslims and jews forcing their customs on us.They know that in for example Britain that we bend over and take it up the ass from them because everyone is afraid to disagree with them incase they cry discrimination.Well I for one am sick of us Brits discriminating against ourselves.I an not afraid of being branded a racist,I am infact quite proud to be a racist if that's what you want to call me but bottom line,if they aren't happy here go back to your homeland.If all these muslims and jews had stayed in there own countries and tried to changes things there perhaps it would have evolved from the dark ages and might be a nicer and safer place now.edit on 29/12/2010 by glen200376 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by babloyi
ModernAcadamia, I think you are misinformed. Animal slaughter in the UK doesn't work purely on electrocution. The animal is zapped with a stun gun, and then bled out by having its throat cut (or being jabbed in the heart). That first video you posted was practising a bit of disinfo in that regard.
In fact, your use of the example of "this is why electrocution is used in executions" is also faulty- there were many many cases of the condemned surviving for several minutes after being electrocuted -probably one of the reasons why electrocution as a method of execution is actually being PHASED OUT. Not that lethal injection is any better- the funny thing about all these methods of execution (as well as slaughtering of animals) is that they're generally made for ease of the executor (or slaughterer), not the person being executed (or the animal being slaughtered). If they really cared about not causing pain to the prisoner to be executed, they'd guillotine.
Another point about those videos you posted- trying to prove that the animal is being "tortured" by showing all that shaking about by the animals is a bit misleading. Those are muscle reactions- the animal itself would have been rendered unconscious almost instantly because THERE IS NO BLOOD FLOWING INTO THE BRAIN. This versus a zap to the animal (which stops it from flapping about, it is true, although this only really benefits the onlookers.... the animal itself is still very much alive, and could possibly sense all the pain of the zap as well as the cut, if the zap wasn't done properly).
Although..it seems prudent to mention that the halal method of slaughter does not allow for the animal to be in the presence of other animals when it is slaughtered, and that the knife shouldn't be visible to the animal until the very last second. If the video you posted is actually showing "halal" slaughter being carried out, it should be noted that it isn't being done correctly.
So yeah, I'd repeat a previous posters question..what makes the non halal/kosher method MORE humane? If anything at all, some studies should be done. Studies done so far, show that the halal method is more humane than captive bolt stunning, at least.
edit on 29-12-2010 by babloyi because: (no reason given)