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Web attack takes Anonymous activists offline

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posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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Web attack takes Anonymous activists offline


www.bbc.co.uk

The notorious message board 4Chan has been taken offline by an overwhelming web attack.

Thanks to the attack, the discussion boards of the site have been hard to reach or offline for almost 24 hours.

The attack might be retaliation for similar attacks that some 4Chan members, as part of the Anonymous group, mounted in support of Wikileaks.
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posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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I bet this is a government or multiple government attacks. The best way to attack your enemy is too disrupt his communication. Using deception is also in the Art of War casting suspicion on another know hacker.

This war seems to be hot and heavy. I wonder what other types of attacks we could see. War has a way of sparking innovation..

What do you think?

www.bbc.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 09:35 AM
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The art of war should be required reading for every freedom lover on the planet. It is a masterwork

It can be downloaded for free at libravox, a brilliant resource online that turns many great classics into audio, for free!



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 09:39 AM
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It's not smart to poke a hornets nest.
Especially when they are home for the holidays.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 09:42 AM
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the art of war takes pride of place in my bathroom. right next to the throne and is read daily. the other essental book to read is gurrila ware fair by che guvara!



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 10:18 AM
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fun fun fun, right so these 4chan's decided to but heads, hmm, lets see they need to go through ummmm us...! to get to where they want. No ?


Ammatures to say the least.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 10:29 AM
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I agree the Art of war is rather good from what I started with, I need to get around to finishing that book sometime this year. Thus far though I am rather enjoying it and I pretty much bought it on a whim.

Anyway as to the topic of Anonymous there is always IRC so I'm kind of wondering who well taking down just their site will do, especially with communication platforms such as that.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 10:36 AM
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No, it’s just people getting sick and tired of their stupidity.

4chan doesn’t have a big data enough data pipe to even contemplate handling a government attack. If any government went after them, they would completely lock them out 24/7 wihtout even thinking about it.

Heck, it is probably just two or three people on normal broad band connections putting a lock down on them. People are getting tired of it, and this is just a general backlash against the stupidity.

At first the wikiidiots had a thin mirage of sincerity around them. people could believe that they were truly looking for a more open government.

But that mirage has dissipated by now. It is pretty apparent that the only motive mister asshat has, is to weaken the us and put it’s citizens in greater danger. Simple espionage.

Something tells me that if NY was nuked, the only thing mister asshat would be worried about doing is throwing a party to celebrate.

The only term that I can think of to describe some of the people on this thread is….. Useful idiots. You have been used, get use to it.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 10:40 AM
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Interesting.

But I wonder. ...The 4chan owner announced some sort of merger or partnership a week or 2 ago.

Looks like an inside job to me. ...He got bought.

No backlash here.



edit on 29/12/10 by soficrow because: add line



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 10:55 AM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by Mr Tranny
No, it’s just people getting sick and tired of their stupidity.

4chan doesn’t have a big data enough data pipe to even contemplate handling a government attack. If any government went after them, they would completely lock them out 24/7 wihtout even thinking about it.


I assume, again i assume that you would rather want a continuation of what ever they enjoy doing in the name of free flow information. Putting that aside, its more or less a 2+hr work load, nothing compared or so as i imagine the hit that the google network took the other day.




posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 11:32 AM
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Close down 4chan for a few hours or 24/7 and claim victory??? What a joke.

Try closing down the billion other masses on the internet 24/7 and see what happens. :-)



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 11:33 AM
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I dont understand why so many people visit 4chan, it is the most awkward looking site i have ever seen. I dont understand how people browse it with any sense of what they are actually doing.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 12:23 PM
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I would have made the title "Web attack takes 4chan offline" because Anonymous is not synonymous with 4chan.

With the thread title as it is, "Web attack takes Anonymous activitists offline", I thought the government had somehow managed to trace down all members of anonymous and shut down their internet access.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by tristar
I assume, again i assume that you would rather want a continuation of what ever they enjoy doing in the name of free flow information. Putting that aside, its more or less a 2+hr work load, nothing compared or so as i imagine the hit that the google network took the other day.



The old saying…. The enemy of my enemy is my friend……… Ummmmm. NO…..
The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.
Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is worse than my enemy.

I hate big government but sometimes the people fighting it can be a bigger threat to me and my community than the big government in question could ever think of being.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Tranny

Originally posted by tristar
I assume, again i assume that you would rather want a continuation of what ever they enjoy doing in the name of free flow information. Putting that aside, its more or less a 2+hr work load, nothing compared or so as i imagine the hit that the google network took the other day.



The old saying…. The enemy of my enemy is my friend……… Ummmmm. NO…..
The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.
Sometimes the enemy of my enemy is worse than my enemy.

I hate big government but sometimes the people fighting it can be a bigger threat to me and my community than the big government in question could ever think of being.




The Moral Law causes the people to be in complete accord with their ruler, so that they will follow him regardless of their lives, undismayed by any danger.

Sun Tzu-The Art of War


My response is obvious enough.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 01:30 PM
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Interesting development, isn't it?

Whats more interesting is that its a stab at the heart, so to speak. Its not a slight nick, or a cut.

I think that might speak volumes about where it came from eventually.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 01:43 PM
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Im glad someone else pointed this out. The actual website 4chan is innocent in this. It is a breeding ground for young kids with no role models. And the smarter people use them. 4chan is only the most well known chan-site. infact there are thousands of them, and the more underground ones are where the more notorious individuals typically reside. and its these individuals who concentrate their efforts on 4chan, because it has the biggest "population". And another thing, anonymous really isnt a group. its more of a mentality. They have pulled things that i find rather humerous, and things I find to be in real bad taste. and thats the whole point, its different groups of people pursuing different goals. the "anonymous" brand is, if anything probably more an act of self-protection.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by neformore
Interesting development, isn't it?

Whats more interesting is that its a stab at the heart, so to speak. Its not a slight nick, or a cut.

I think that might speak volumes about where it came from eventually.


Indeed nef, its far more interesting to say the least as it is a constant fluid adaptation as to who holds the cards. The reality is, there can be only one outcome and that is by no means some site or people who assume that an individual has the ability to intrude into areas that are simply....non existent, for they are simply a national security.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by tristar


The Moral Law causes the people to be in complete accord with their ruler, so that they will follow him regardless of their lives, undismayed by any danger.

Sun Tzu-The Art of War


My response is obvious enough.


Yes. But you are using it to lead to a conclusion that is not in context of what you quoted.

Your attempt at clouding the waters comes form other lines of art of war that I won’t waste the time quoting, but that is besides the point.

What you quoted from the art of war has no context on the question of who is right (more right). The government or the people going after the government.

The answer to who is right is not absolute. It depends on the world views of the person you ask.

Yes, a population will tend to defend their government when it’s attacked, but that has no bearing on the question of who is in the right. The government or the people attacking it.

Considering how other governments can do what we are accused of doing and don’t get any backlash, that would indicate that the backlash is unfounded and there is ulterior motives behind the backlash beyond what they say provoked it.

That ulterior motive is the problem I have with a lot of antigovernment forces.

Let us deal with our government ourselves thank you not. We don’t need your help.



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