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HAARP Acknowledged officially by EU as a very dangerous wapen

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posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 03:14 AM
reply to post by Pervius

nobody can trace a HAARP created event.

Not exactly true, but it is very difficult and specialized. Meteorologist are able to identify unusual weather patterns, seismologist are able to read unusual seismic activity. It is from the consequences of the actions that some evidence can be found. It is very technical to find and read this evidence correctly, but it does exist and along with other collaborating sources that can build a strong case. It is a very sneaky weapon non the less.

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 03:30 AM

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by kwakakev

3.6 megawatts actually, from four diesel generators.

Did you know that energy from the sun hits the ionosphere constantly and can reach up to and over a hundred million watts of power?

Do you know what the result of all this power is?


We don't know that's true unless you believe whatever the Government tell you..
Also, who knows what other instalations are out there?

Heck Chad, dou YOU know what's at Pine Gap??
I sure as hell don't...

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 03:40 AM

Originally posted by Chadwickus
Interesting, it seems all of this HAARP information came from a hearing held on the 5th February 1998.

And who was the speaker of this topic?

Nick Begich

A mail order homeopathic doctor.

Anyway, this article is interesting:

Dr Rahman also quotes a 1999 committee of the European Union Parliament that called for HAARP to be examined by an international independent body. I do not know if any of the committee members were scientists. But 11 years later, the EU has not called for further investigation, nor alleged that HAARP has caused natural disasters.

The good doctor enthusiastically endorses the statements of Dr Nick Begich, one of HAARP’s most vocal critics, and refers to him reverentially as a scientist. But Begich’s website says that he obtained a doctorate in traditional medicine from The Open International University for Complementary Medicines in 1994. In other words Begich is not a scientist, but a homeopath who obtained a mail order degree.

Ah, a typical "if you can't discredit the message, discredit the messenger" post

It's in the nature of man (especially an American man
) to try to turn ANY discovery, invention or idea into a weapon it's how we got to the top of the food chain. Unfortunately we have now reached the point of poking things we don't understand so badly that we're like a three year old child who has found a stick of dynamite and a detonator, and knows they fit together somehow but has no idea of the consequences of actually doing so

Getting it wrong and sending us back to the stone age might not be such a bad idea, at least the earth itself would recover from our meddling

edit on 29/12/10 by yellowbeard because: (no reason given)

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 03:40 AM
reply to post by backinblack

From the article:

Similar experiments are also conducted in Norway, probably in the Antarctic, but also in the former Soviet Union (23).

Remember this was way back in 1999

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 04:04 AM
I suppose the only way we would ever know what HAARP is capable of, would be to crank it up to full power and 'direct' it at a certain spot.

If there be a big kaboom like tunguska then slap the Americans hands and demand they tear it down whilst each country builds their own in secrecy.

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 05:13 AM
A thought...

The HAARP technology was derived from a Tesla system which originally generated a pulse of energy into the ionosphere, smacked it to and fro around the planet until it was pulled down to be converted into usable electrical power. Because of the system's technologies and capabilities, it can be used for:

transmission of data worldwide, capturing of Nature's energies (in various formats), focused beams for useful or destructive purposes, manipulate the weather or geological shifts, used as a energy weapon / beacon for outer space war / communication, and the ability of shifting the EM fields around Earth, or singular points around / on / in it.

The power of this technology is phenomenal, which is why Tesla attempted to split up his theories of it, and send pieces to both the USA and USSR, so they would have to collaborate together to get it to work. Things took another path though...

In North America it's more commonly called a weather modification device, rather than HAARP for politically sensitive reasons. Canada has had a few leaks on it... there's info on torrents somewhere. (I'll see if I can dig them up again...) I think it was Project Freedom that talked about 7 major installations worldwide with another 30 used as subsets for small EM testing grounds (Montauk style jazz...)

HAARP is more admitted in Russia, where the technology is less used but the theories are more advanced. Anyone speak Russian?

There's a good video called: Angels don't play this HAARP. Haven't seen it all, but its a good intro. Tesla's writings themselves are phenomenal.


posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 06:56 AM
reply to post by yellowbeard

Well in this case the messenger discredits the message himself.

So where is the follow up to all this?

This meeting was held over ten years ago and nothing has changed!

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 07:11 AM
katrina anyone

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 07:19 AM
reply to post by backinblack

Well actually it's what the University of Alaska tells me.

But that's neither her nor there, fact is we've only got what we've got to work on and I'll go with that rather than making up fairy tales.

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 07:33 AM
this looks like important & interesting info, thanks for sharing but please fix the thread title, the word is spelt -


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posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 01:47 PM
First of all, there's nothing remotely secret or even classified about HAARP. No security clearance is needed to visit and tour the site, and HAARP usually holds an open house every summer during which anyone can see everything there. During the rest of the year, research is conducted. The universities that have participated in HAARP research include University of Alaska, Stanford, Penn State, Boston College, Dartmouth, Cornell, University of Maryland, University of Massachusetts, MIT, Polytechnic University, UCLA, Clemson and the University of Tulsa. There are several other similar research stations around the world, namely the Sura facility in Russia, EISCAT in Norway, the Arecibo observatory in Puerto Rico, and the HIPAS observatory near Fairbanks, operated by UCLA. If you look at HAARP on Google Earth, you can see there's not much there, and the current view shows only four cars in the small parking lot.

HAARP consists of an observatory and an adjacent 28-acre field with 180 HF (high frequency) antennas, each 72 feet tall, with a maximum transmission power of 3600 kilowatts, about 75 times the power of a commercial radio station, but only a tiny fraction of the strength of the natural solar radiation striking the same part of the ionosphere at which HAARP is aimed. Although the observatory operates continuously, the HF antenna array is activated only rarely for specific experiments, which average about once a month.

Sadly for the conspiracy theorists, HAARP has no potential to affect weather. The frequency of energy that HAARP transmits cannot be absorbed by the troposphere or the stratosphere, only by the ionosphere, many miles higher than the highest atmospheric weather systems.

The ionosphere is created and replenished daily by solar radiation. At night, the level of ionization drops quickly to very low levels at lower altitudes of 50 to 100 miles, but at higher altitudes over 200 miles it takes most of the night for the ionization to disperse. During the night, when the natural ionosphere is minimal, HAARP is capable of creating a weak artificial aurora that can actually be observed by sensitive cameras at the observatory, though they are far too faint for the naked eye. During the daytime, solar radiation ionizes the ionosphere so powerfully that HAARP's weak artificial effects are the proverbial drop in the bucket, and are erased almost immediately when the transmitter is turned off.

You might ask "What's the point of HAARP?" If it's not to wreak global destruction, what good is it? Communication and navigation signals are sent through the atmosphere for a broad range of civilian and military purposes. Guided missiles rely on digital transmissions which can be affected or jammed by a whole variety of natural and artificial causes. Global Positioning System and encrypted communications all need to be able to make it to their recipients in wartime, regardless of the atmospheric and electromagnetic conditions. The study of these effects is the primary reason that DARPA, the U.S. Air Force, and the U.S. Navy contribute to HAARP's funding. In addition, by bouncing signals off the ionosphere at at altitude of 100km, HAARP has been able to create Extremely Low Frequency, or ELF, waves as low as 1 Hertz, which can potentially be used for worldwide communication including reaching submarines, though at an almost uselessly slow data rate. But before you conclude that these ELF waves might be used for creating earthquakes, note that the maximum ELF signal amplitude produced by HAARP has been measured at less than one ten-millionth of the Earth's natural background field.

So if HAARP is so anticlimactically mundane, why all the conspiracy theories? HAARP is operated by MarshCreek, LLC, an Alaska Native Corporation under contract to the Office of Naval Research. Anytime the ONR or DARPA or the military have their hand in something, paranoid types tend to come out of the woodwork and blame anything they can imagine on it. So regardless of whether HAARP is in the atmospheric research business or the rubber duckie business, they were pretty much doomed to conspiracy charges from the beginning.

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 02:00 PM
reply to post by Illustronic

Well as TS, i want to thank you for this informative post.

It is always good to enlighten more sides to a story.

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 02:05 PM
The Haarp Project reminds me of a Kurt Vonegut short story-"Ice Nine". Military leaders wanted to keep equipment from getting stuck in the mud and asked a scientist to come up with something. He did, and it destroyed the world, causing water to freeze at 100 F.

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 02:24 PM
Simply amazing. People, en mass, refuse to believe that trillions of tons of man made/released pollutants could affect global climate over a hundred years of Global abuse, yet the big bad evil Americans can destroy the world with a beam of radio waves.

As for disturbing the Earth's magnetic field, the amount of radiation, x-rays, gamma rays and radio waves that interact with our atmoshpere and magnetosphere each day, is FAR greater than all of what we have EVER produced as a species.

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 02:35 PM
I hope someone was able to give Illustronic an "applause" for that post, if there was ever a post in a HAARP thread that deserved it, it was that one. Nice to see a dose of reality posted

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 02:58 PM
I for one hope that this does all of this and more. One more weapon to use in our eventual conquest of other planets! Lets see the Navii or how ever it is spelled, stand against our weather death devices!

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 03:08 PM
You guys should check out the episode of Conspiracy Theory on it =D

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 04:03 PM
HAARP was actually designed to enhance communications with our submarines. Whether it is a " death ray " is still speculation, not to mention still yet to be seen, let alone proven.

posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 04:52 PM

Originally posted by sayzaar
Hmm, the EU were concerned about HAARP and it's implications on the environment and weather systems and here we are in a climate crisis. Are the two linked ? More than likely, at least to some extent.
I've always believed it would be the Americans that finally destroy us all !!

Americans?? You think All Americans participated in this project?
The only reason you dislike America is because we kicked your butt in the war.

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posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 05:00 PM
Interresting, to see a official document from the eu about haarp.

but more interresting to know is what was the outcome of this resolution ? It is now more than 10 years ago....

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