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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 02:50 PM
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Reading some Blog they came upon official EU transcripts of a debate at the EU about HAARP already in 1999

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EU Official Transcript (Dutch version)

Although this one is in Dutch the report has to be in English and other languages as well.

They confirm the influence on world scale that HAARP has and the ways it can be used as a Weapon.

Conclusion: Very Dangerous!
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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 02:54 PM
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Transelation by Google of official EU transcript

HAARP - a weapons system which disrupts the climate On February 5, 1998's Subcommittee on Security and Disarmament of the European Parliament hearing on a.o. HAARP. Representatives of NATO and the U.S. were invited but chose not to participate. The Commission regrets that the USA to send to answer questions and did not use the possibility presented material to provide an explanation (22). HAARP, the research program of high frequency radiation (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project) is run jointly by the U.S. Air Force and Navy, in cooperation with the Geophysical Institute of the University of Alaska, Fairbanks.

Similar experiments are also conducted in Norway, probably in the Antarctic, but also in the former Soviet Union (23). HAARP is a research project using equipment on the ground, an array of antennae each powered by its own transmitter, heated parts of ionosphere (24) with powerful radio waves. The energy generated heats up parts of the ionosphere with the result that there are holes in the ionosphere and artificial lenses'. HAARP could be used for many purposes.

The electrical properties of the atmosphere can manipulate enormous forces be sent. If used as a weapon, the devastating effects on the enemy. Through HAARP can deliver millions of times more energy to an exact location to be directed than any other conventional channel. The energy can also be directed at a moving target, which could be useful in the fight against enemy missiles.

The project would also allow better communications with submarines and the manipulation of global weather patterns. The opposite is possible to disrupt the communication. Through the ionosphere can affect the global communication disturbance, while the communication from the user passes. Another application of the system is to make x-rays of the earth several kilometers depth (earth-penetrating tomography) to locate oil and gas fields, but also underground military facilities. Over the horizon radar that can look around and objects at long distance can define a further application of the HAARP system. In this way, approaching objects are searched after the curvature of the earth's surface.

Since the early '50s, the U.S. in the Van Allen belts nuclear material detonated to investigate the effects of nuclear explosions at such high altitudes because of the electromagnetic pulses during the explosion, had for the transmission of radio signals and operation of radar. This created new radiation belts almost the whole earth.

The electrons move along magnetic field lines over the Arctic and created an artificial aurora. The danger is that the Van Allen belt arising from these military trials of serious and prolonged disruption is. The magnetic field of the earth over large areas can be disturbed so that radio communications impossible. According to U.S. scientists can take hundreds of years for the Van Allen belt to return to normal.
HAARP can change weather patterns entail. It can also affect the entire ecosystem, especially in the sensitive Antarctic regions.

Another damaging effect of HAARP, the holes in the ionosphere caused by the powerful radio beams are emitted. The ionosphere protects us from cosmic radiation. It is hoped that the holes will fill again, but the experience of change in the ozone layer point in opposite directions.
This means that the protective ionosphere big holes. The enormous impact on the environment HAARP is a global problem and it is doubtful whether the benefits of this really outweigh the risks. The ecological and ethical implications must be closely examined before any further research and testing takes place.

HAARP is in the public opinion almost entirely unknown and it is important that the general awareness on the project is extended.

HAARP is linked to fifty years of intensive space research for military purposes, including as part of "Star Wars", with the intention of the upper layers of the atmosphere and communications control. This kind of research should be considered a serious threat to the environment are considered, with an incalculable impact on human life can have. Now nobody knows what impact HAARP can bring. The culture of secrecy in military research must be combated. The right to openness and democratic scrutiny of military research, and parliamentary research should be promoted. By the light of a series of international treaties (Convention on the Prohibition of Military or any Other Hostile Use of techniques for environmental change, the Antarctic Treaty, the Treaty on principles governing the behavior of states in the exploration of space, including the Moon and other celestial bodies, and the UN Convention on Law of the Sea) is HAARP emerged as highly questionable, not only from a humanitarian and political grounds, but also from a legal perspective. The Antarctic Treaty, the Antarctic may be used only for peaceful purposes (25). This means that HAARP is a breach of international law. All the implications of new weapons systems should be examined by independent international bodies. Further international agreements designed to protect the environment during wars against unnecessary damage.
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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:04 PM
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Hi, I have just read your post on the HAARP device and i am amazed that this sort of weapon is around! I dont understand why we dont unite and get rid of these kind of weapons! or better all of them, fighting terrorism dosnt make sence just like fighting for freedom! its a contradiction!



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:04 PM
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This whole transcript is very disturbing.

According to the EU the Americans have f*cked up the Van Allen belt for the next few hundred years!





Since the early '50s, the U.S. in the Van Allen belts nuclear material detonated to investigate the effects of nuclear explosions at such high altitudes because of the electromagnetic pulses during the explosion, had for the transmission of radio signals and operation of radar. This created new radiation belts almost the whole earth. The electrons move along magnetic field lines over the Arctic and created an artificial aurora. The danger is that the Van Allen belt arising from these military trials of serious and prolonged disruption is. The magnetic field of the earth over large areas can be disturbed so that radio communications impossible. According to U.S. scientists can take hundreds of years for the Van Allen belt to return to normal.

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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:11 PM
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The reason no one us united against HAARP is because it isn't a weapon and doesn't control the weather. Despite what the EU in 1999 may have thought HAARP is harmless and, although it does have military applications, those applications have absolutely nothing to do with being a weather controlling death ray.

What is going on here is called an argument from authority and it works like this:

Some people in the EU in the 90s thought HAARP was a weapon therefore HAARP is probably a weapon.

Without evidence to support the conclusion the words of the authority are essentially useless and potentially misleading.
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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:16 PM
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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:20 PM
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Of course you can (and should) questioning everything, but for the time being I take official EU records, came about after extensive research and monitoring programs from participating countries, intelligence and military more seriously as your statement. No offense.

Especially it was at the time not a well known subject and therefore not a political "stunt"



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:36 PM
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Nice to hear about people (in the EU. What were they thinking with EISCAT?) expressing common sense (& Thank you for posting this, EartOccupant!). There was controversy at the time, but it was squelched here, too.
Weather manipulation, an engineered pole shift, "global warming" (turned freezing), atmospheric disruptions- cancers & new diseases. It amazes me how many key words & phrases most people overlook.
It's just not nice to mess with Mother Nature. The truth will be coming in demonstrations (vs words) more & more and it won't be pretty. Edward Teller pumped up his notoriety, the MIC got their groovy new toys, the universities got their grants- all the players got their (er, that would be *our* [tax] money. It's only the planet we must have to sustain life- no biggie.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:46 PM
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For the love of God! Please spellcheck your headline!

The article looks very interesting, I'll be back after reading the entire translation.



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:50 PM
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Hmm, the EU were concerned about HAARP and it's implications on the environment and weather systems and here we are in a climate crisis. Are the two linked ? More than likely, at least to some extent.
I've always believed it would be the Americans that finally destroy us all !!



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 03:50 PM
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Hmm, the EU were concerned about HAARP and it's implications on the environment and weather systems and here we are in a climate crisis. Are the two linked ? More than likely, at least to some extent.
I've always believed it would be the Americans that finally destroy us all !!



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 05:32 PM
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Alrighty then:

Following your link to the EU official transcript I discovered there is a translation bar at the upper right of the page. After translating the transcript into english, I read it.

The second item down the days agenda is a "Motion for a Resolution" entitled "Resolution on the environment, security and foreign policy". This was drafted by a "Mr. Olsson" and submitted to the EU Committee on Foreign Affairs, Security and Defence Policy requesting that the resolution be presented to the EU Parliament for consideration. I don't know how far it got up the bureaucratic ladder.

This is an environmental initiative which addresses many threats to the environment. The section on HAARP is as follows:


27. Considers HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project) by virtue of its farreaching impact on the environment to be a global concern and calls for its legal, ecological and ethical implications to be examined by an international independent body before any further research and testing; regrets the repeated refusal of the United States Administration to send anyone in person to give evidence to the public hearing or any subsequent meeting held by its competent committee into the environmental and public risks connected with the high Frequency Active Auroral Research Project (HAARP) programme currently being funded in Alaska;


(Notice that it is listed as item 27 in a long list of environmental problems)

The HAARP information quoted in the Dutch blog is from Part B of the resolution (Explanatory Statement) under the subheading of "HAARP - a weapons system which disrupts the climate". While there are footnotes, none of them seem to verify the claims made concerning HAARPs capabilities. Some of those claims such as X-raying the earth seem a bit fat fetched to me, but not outside the realm of possibility.

Taken as a whole, the proposed resolution would seem to be a response to the Global Warming hysteria of the time (January 1999) and thus understandably biased against anything that could possibly be seen as a threat to "the environment" - to include a system that admittedly affects the earths ionosphere.

All in all, an interesting find from a historical standpoint for which I shall S & F.

(NOTE: The EU translation is a lot easier to read than Yahoos translation of the Dutch
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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 09:06 PM
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makes ya think about the weather change all around the world, they say global warming, or is this an experment of harrp



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 09:31 PM
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Interesting, it seems all of this HAARP information came from a hearing held on the 5th February 1998.

And who was the speaker of this topic?

Nick Begich

A mail order homeopathic doctor.

Anyway, this article is interesting:


Dr Rahman also quotes a 1999 committee of the European Union Parliament that called for HAARP to be examined by an international independent body. I do not know if any of the committee members were scientists. But 11 years later, the EU has not called for further investigation, nor alleged that HAARP has caused natural disasters.

The good doctor enthusiastically endorses the statements of Dr Nick Begich, one of HAARP’s most vocal critics, and refers to him reverentially as a scientist. But Begich’s website says that he obtained a doctorate in traditional medicine from The Open International University for Complementary Medicines in 1994. In other words Begich is not a scientist, but a homeopath who obtained a mail order degree.


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posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 10:50 PM
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It is good to see some awareness of the implications of HAARP on the global level, piety it has since been hushed up. I does not take a genius to work out that sending Terra watts of energy into the atmosphere has some implications. So why all the cover up on these implications? No comment America yet again? Hmm...



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 11:05 PM
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3.6 megawatts actually, from four diesel generators.

Did you know that energy from the sun hits the ionosphere constantly and can reach up to and over a hundred million watts of power?

Do you know what the result of all this power is?

This:




posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 12:55 AM
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I do acknowledge that 3.6MW is the publicly disclosed capacity of HAARP. There are some investigations that refute this and indicate targets in the Terra Watt range such as:
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

HAARP is also directed energy, so instead of it being spread over a large area, like the sun rays on the earth it can be focused. It only takes 600 Watts to cook a can of baked beans in a couple of minutes. However, with out an independent scientific analysis to sort out the facts from the fiction we all left chasing our tails once more.

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posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 01:54 AM
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If HAARP was just another wheather balloon eeehm.. station , people got to wonder with the BILLIONS being spend on weather related research in general, why they still can't make a good forecast.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 02:47 AM
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The mere fact DOD took over HAARP, means she's a weapon.

It's not useful for communication with subs anymore. The Blue-Green lasers are now likely streaming high speed internet access to subs beneath the ocean. There are articles where they were testing it in Hawaii scanning the bottom of the ocean a few years ago.

HAARP type weapons are worse than nuclear bombs. Everyone can find out where the nuclear bomb came from. nobody can trace a HAARP created event.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 03:05 AM
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The fact they make holes and damages to climate without knowing how or when it can or will be restored i find very disturbing.

They wanna charge us with CO tax, but there little toys do more harm then all the co2 together.

Not even the mentioning of polluting the van Allan belt with radiation for a couple of hundred years.

Idiots.



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