reply to post by Annee
Your not thinking this through Anne..while speaking of forced equality and other such concepts...and claiming equality is your goal.
Watch this in how you are contradicting yourself in your statements. The interesting thing about this is that I don't think others get this nor do
Now - - what exactly constitutes sex life?
Showing a picture of your girlfriend/boyfriend?
Talking about your girlfriend/boyfriend?
Keeping copies of Playboy/Playgirl in your locker?
Commenting on someone's Boobs/Shoulders?
I'm straight and I really don't want to hear about your Straight Sex that goes on behind closed doors.
The very problem with these people/group is that they define themselves by the very word...Gay...thus identifying themselves by their sexual
I don't want to hear about anyone's straight sex either ..nor any other kind. That is to much information's. Photos of others...or who others hang
around with is none of my business.
Don't ask Don't tell is to me the same as not defining who and what one is by ones sexuality, sex, sexual orientation. That is none of my business
and I am not interested in it. I am interested in ones professionalism..not just in the military ..but in the civilian world as well.
Finally this thread is coming around to what I posted back on page 43 in agreement with Josephus 23 about forced equality being fascist in nature.
And here you are again saying it on page 49.
Originally posted by peck420
You can't remove rights of one to placate another, in EITHER direction.
Well actually - - yes you can. Just from this one discussion - - - you can see how equality has to be Forced.
Looks like someone else gets it out here as well. This is standard M1A political technique today...divide and conquer...by force of law...while
claiming it is equality. It is not unity or bringing people together.
I agree with peck 420..in that you cannot remove rights of one to placate another..in either direction.
This is why I say Don't Ask Don't Tell makes sense. It is a mistake for this group to identify itself by its sex , sexuality, sexual orientation
alone. ..which is what they have done. And then by this very fingerprint to demand respect and tolerance from others. To do so does not even make good
nonsense to people who can think it through.
Interestingly enough..this is the very idea and concept which a educated, intelligent, informed body politic, media, and public education...does not
seem want to ask..or to even enter the conscience/thoughts of the pubic. I dont see anyone out here asking why a group would choose to define
themselves by their sex, sexuality, sexual orientation.
As I said...in my previous post..
People define themselves by..
Or some great work they have done and left to posterity.
People who can think for themselves know this. They do not define themselves by this fingerprint ...homo or hetero. That is not the issue. This
fingerprint which is being debated here is and should be a private issue not a pubic issue. Which is what Don't Ask Don't Tell is going
towards...keeping it private.
The only possible reason for the body politic to get involved is for political lucre..they are not interested in this group per se..except for the
votes they can get by them.
Golf 66 said it well...at the bottom of page 49.
Until we are just American's rather than African, Hispanic, Asian, handicapped or whatever hyphenated group wants’ special redress today
there will be inequality - just towards a different victim.
I don't see how this is hard to understand?
You cannot have equality under the law until all groups are removed from their special protected status and each individual is looked at as well, an
individual who is responsible for his/her own actions rather than a member of a group.
I will say it another way. You do not solve a " Victim Dictum " problem by making someone else a "New Victim." and then ignoring them in lieu of
the old victims. At the expense of" New Victims."
Someone else said it well. You have to figure out how to bring all into equality..but not by this method of "Forced Equality."
reply to post by FreeSafety
I am very familiar with your type of posting.
You come into a thread with a premise of understanding and wanting to learn or be open to different ideas.
But you really are not. Your main intent is to make your own position known.
You will continue to be tenacious in trying to make everyone agree with your viewpoint.
ATS has room for all kinds of ideas..in agreement and disagreement both as long as it is within the T&C.
One can make this same claim about your posts...even intolerance...particularly when you speak of forced equality. This rings a bell quickly with
people who hold liberties and privacy dear. For they know instinctively that liberty is often contingent on privacy. It appears that this group of
which we speak does not understand that concept.