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Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by Josephus23
I want to make this clear to everyone. I am not a believing Christian, but Orangetom has a very good handle on his knowledge of the faiths of Abraham.
I really do not care - even a micro/nano-fraction - - - what the bible says or those who choose to believe it.
The Military is NOT a church!
EQUAL is EQUAL - - period!
EVERY able bodied citizen deserves the right to defend their country.
Originally posted by Josephus23
reply to post by Annee
Everyone does have a right to fight for their country.
What they do not have a right to do is be "openly" something or another.
This is a slippery slope that leads straight (pun intended) to doom for our country. It will destroy and divide us, just as this thread represents.
Don't ask and don't tell was fine and worked for the military.
Although I do not support our military.
I am not sure why you became so incensed???
I would read my post very carefully.
Originally posted by Dr Cosma
I want the same time my girl has off for being pregnant.
I also want the same right incase she takes my kids.
Look, you live in a bubble, protected by the very same people you detest.
You dont care a nano fraction of what is WRITTEN in the Bible or the people who believe it?
Could you please tell me who the hell you are, lololol.
You obviously dont know that the Church has been on top for milenia.
Which makes me think also, if you trully have never heard the word?
Have you heard the word?
Originally posted by Dr Cosma
I want the same time my girl has off for being pregnant.
I also want the same right incase she takes my kids.
Originally posted by Josephus23
reply to post by Annee
I think that you are misunderstanding my position.
I do not oppose anyone who does anything consenting, but what is a problem is the continued progression of an agenda concerning a lifestyle that was considered a developmental disability and illegal until 1973.
Let me repeat that....
I am not opposed to anyone doing what they personally wish, but what I am opposed to is the promotion of any type of a lifestyle.
Originally posted by Dr Cosma
reply to post by Annee
You are missing out the main thing here, it's the military.
I do not care what someone wants to do, if it is consenting between two parties, but the propaganda matrix that surrounds us is using the homosexual agenda to divide the people of this country.
Sexual attraction is not SEX. Sex is an act. Whoredom would be using sex.
Heteros showing photos of their girlfriends and wives is not being Open? Get real.
The only thing I see dividing this country and the world throughout history is Religion.
EVERY able bodied citizen deserves the right to defend their country.
If you were to actually read Reich, then you would see that he states that the way that fascists come into power is through the control of the sexual drive.
He saw that repression of the sexual drive lead to fascism, but it can very easily be turned around to face the other direction.
Originally posted by Josephus23
And control over irrational behavior is behind the idea of consumerism.
What I am discussing is not on the superficial level that you seem to want to discuss.
I gotta tell you ..I have never heard of Max Weber until you posted here. I thank you for that intro and have book marked the Wiki link on him. Very interesting the portion I have read.
We are going to see much much more of this template of division rather than uniting.
Today with our accelerated sense of entitlement or or television/movie educations we want to define ourselves by our sex, sexuality, sexual orientation or some great movie or television program we have watched and after which we want to model ourselves.
I gotta tell you this too Josephus23 I am not a big fan of George Carlin. But every now and then that crusty olde dog hits one right out of the ball park..
Originally posted by Annee
Sorry - - all I see is more excuses to some how justify in your mind - - - that gays don't have a right to defend their country as a soldier in the military.
Having been around before the Equal Rights Amendment and Feminists fighting for equal rights for women - - - pretty sure I've heard more Excuses then there are Excuses.
1. Women in the work place will cause sexual tension and distract men from doing their job (woman's fault).
2. Blacks have lower IQs and will never be able to follow simple orders (blacks fault).
3. Gay is a Lifestyle Choice - - and they are too Efeminine to pass any physical conditioning (gays fault).
Originally posted by Josephus23
Originally posted by Annee
Sorry - - all I see is more excuses to some how justify in your mind - - - that gays don't have a right to defend their country as a soldier in the military.
Having been around before the Equal Rights Amendment and Feminists fighting for equal rights for women - - - pretty sure I've heard more Excuses then there are Excuses.
1. Women in the work place will cause sexual tension and distract men from doing their job (woman's fault).
2. Blacks have lower IQs and will never be able to follow simple orders (blacks fault).
3. Gay is a Lifestyle Choice - - and they are too Efeminine to pass any physical conditioning (gays fault).
Where did you get any of this from my post?
You are completely misunderstanding my position, but I am not surprised.
You seem to be driven by emotion and that only solidifies my position.